Talk:Tropical Storm Nicole (2010)

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June 23, 2011	Peer review	Reviewed
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With its current forecast path, Tropical Depression Sixteen is likely to wreak a lot of havoc within a very short time span, so I figured I'd make the main article earlier than usual so we can easily edit as we go. Hylian Auree (talk) 17:40, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Based on NHC reports, it appears this could be a Nor'Ida situation, with the tropical cyclone dissipating and its moisture forming a separate storm. Since major flooding is likely, an article may be required on that separate storm. Should it be treated as part of Nicole or a new system? CrazyC83 (talk) 20:51, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

According to the final NHC discussion; they aren't considering the forecast extratropical low the same storm. — Iune (talk) 23:10, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It seems like Nicole's impact is mostly isolated to the western Caribbean and Florida. I think a separate article would be warranted, since all of the moisture coming up is due to the cold front. That is, of course, assuming the nor'easter warrants an article. --Hurricanehink (talk) 00:28, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

We really should worry about that bridge once/if we get there. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 02:14, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that the flooding event of the eastern seaboard should have its own article, and while the media keeps referring to this system as "remnants of Nicole" it seems that that is not at all the case. Beach drifter (talk) 21:25, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

HPC rainfall page for Nicole up

Just letting you know it's been done for a day or two now. Thegreatdr (talk) 05:25, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've added it into the article, thanks for letting us know DR. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 15:53, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Track

I cannot prove this because I can't read the NHC forecasters' minds, but it seems pretty clear that the Hurricane Center quietly decided to move Nicole's center noticably to the east to avoid pointless warnings over the Florida peninsula. While Nicole was over Cuba, they stated that the storm's center reformed further to the east. No it didn't. The location of the center is plainly visible in this satellite image. It is not over Andros Island, it is in fact just offshore of the Florida Keys. Nicole's center actually made landfall in south Florida but because NHC knew that, due to the structure of the storm, Florida would receive next to no effects from the storm, they were loathe to maintain warnings (although the upper Keys did in fact receive a pretty heavy rain band from Nicole). I find it impossible to believe that the Hurricane Center would've missed the center location when it is so glaringly obvious on satellite that a 21 year old meteorology student could pick it out without a second glance (and yes, I have confirmed the center location in this image with a meteorology professor at my university). This was an old school, and very unprofessional, fib by the NHC, and one I doubt they would perpetuate into post-analysis. I would be shocked if they didn't change it. They even seemed to have been preparing for an easy transition when they said the center became "untrackable" over the Florida Straits. Ha! Stevie Wonder could've tracked the center over the Florida Straits. Look at the picture and see if you can't tell where the center is (Hint: Ernest Hemmingway could've seen it from his back porch) -- Watch For Storm Surge!§eb 07:13, 26 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Eh, scratch what I just said....could prove useful ;) Either way, look at images prior to the one at 2045Z. The feature over the Florida Straits doesn't exist at 1915z, very clearly indicating that it's not the center of Nicole, rather a possible separate low attributable to its monsoonal nature. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 07:29, 26 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Also, that feature shows no sign of rotation about an hour later and dissipates not long after Cyclonebiskit (talk) 07:32, 26 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You can see it better on a close up loop, which we look at real time. If you watch the movement of the low-level clouds, you can see that the storm is rotating about that feature off the Keys. And in those other pictures, you can still see it, it's just not as well defined. Trust me, my professor helped build hurricane forecasting models at FSU, he's pretty good at this stuff. He also knows that the Hurricane Center used to pull this kind of trick more often, back in the "old days" when they could more easily get away with it. -- Watch For Storm Surge!§eb 09:14, 4 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If you look at the NHC surface analysis archive, they did indeed nearly bring the center of Nicole to the southeast Florida coast, which is why the line on the rainfall graphic was drawn so close to the coast. I believe I updated the graphic per their request to change the track line towards their best track, but Brown's point is valid about the center originally being placed very near the coast. As for the other stuff, who knows, though there's sometimes rumbings at work about that. Thegreatdr (talk) 22:04, 25 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the move request was: not moved. (non-admin closure) JudgeRM (talk to me) 02:46, 16 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Tropical Storm Nicole (2010) → Tropical Storm Nicole – It may be the primary topic. 219.79.127.110 (talk) 05:12, 8 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. It may not be. Andrewa (talk) 08:56, 15 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - So many Nicoles lately. Also, the IP didn't specially say why the 2010 one is more significant than the 2016 one, even when the title is the only page using "Tropical Storm Nicole". George Ho (talk) 23:45, 15 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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