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On 20 August 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved to Hart Foundation. The result of the discussion was not moved.

Revert

Requesting a revert as all information of the original Hart Foundation has been replaced with the Hart Dynasty. --Engimal (talk) 09:48, 11 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hart Foundation 2.0 at FCW

This is bull, isn't it? Can anyone confirm what is currently in this article about it? Markcookney 14:52, 28 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

no it is true.

Reason Why Bret Hart Turned Down The Cowboy Gimmick =

Bret Hart hated country music and that's why he turned down that cowboy gimmick. Mr. C.C. 09:04, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Is that in his autobiography?★Trekker (talk) 22:26, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use rationale for Image:Owen InMemory.jpg

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Actually, he also didn't want to be the cowboy bret hart because he hates horses. He says hates, I say is scared of, but whichever it is, the horse is the reason! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.150.89.249 (talk) 14:25, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Natalie Neidhart

Should she still be listed as "Nattie Hart (Natalie Neidhart) (valet)" as of now she's performing rather than being a valet ---Вla zze ee 11:46, 4 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, this page is discussing the "Next Generation Hart Foundation", where she was just the valet, so I'd say, yes, leave it as it is. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 12:38, 4 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

AAA

The Hart Foundation 2.0 is in AAA (Mexico) it is made up of Teddy Hart and Jack Evans, they are being billed under the name and are actualy under contract unlike before since AAA brings in Foreigners without contracts all the time. The thing I think should be added is at Triplemania (AAA's Wrestlemania) they will team up with former ROH Champion Brain Danielson. Prince Bee (talk) 21:34, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox

Shouldn't there be an infobox for each incarnation of the group? Tony2Times (talk) 18:48, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Their own page

Wouldn't it be better if The Hart Dynasty had their own page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.225.33.159 (talk) 01:19, 3 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think they should get their own page in the future, because they are their own contingency, but as for now, I think this will suffice; when they become a stronger personality is when I would make a new page, but still include them in this article. Crippler4

Face turn against the Iron Sheik and Nikolai Volkoff in Boston in 1986

On August 9th 1986 in Boston Garden the Hart Foundation wrestled as faces against the Iron Sheik and Nikolai Volkoff. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.47.140.30 (talk) 15:58, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

it's not a "face turn" if they only wrestle one match against heels then going back to wrestling against faces, it's just a "heel vs. heel" match. Uncommon but it happens. MPJ -DK 16:10, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Just a question.

Would you not say that they were "pushed" after turning face? because after their loss to DX they were not that big anymore.--67.148.62.18 (talk) 07:12, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Owen Hart and The British Bulldog tag team.

Shouldn't the Owen Hart and The British Bulldog tag team be mentioned more? The tag team is what got absorbed into the New Hart Foundation. Currently the article only mentioned them when listing one of their title wins.*Treker (talk) 23:53, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Orphaned references in The Hart Foundation

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of The Hart Foundation's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "Tag":

From The U.S. Express: Greg Oliver and Steve Johnson (2005). The Pro Wrestling Hall of Fame: The Tag Teams. ECW Press. ISBN 978-1-5502-2683-6.
From Dan Spivey: Greg Oliver and Steve Johnson (2005). The Pro Wrestling Hall of Fame: The Tag Teams. ECW Press. ISBN 978-1-55022-683-6.
From Road Warrior Animal: Oliver, Greg; Johnson, Steve (2005). The Pro Wrestling Hall of Fame: The Tag Teams. ECW Press. ISBN 978-1-55022-683-6.
From Rikishi (wrestler): "WWE Tag-Team Title History (Smackdown)". Retrieved April 3, 2007.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 08:35, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Split

I feel that the tag team and the stable should have their own articles, they're not really the same entity.★Trekker (talk) 22:20, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 20 August 2022

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. As noted by many participating, each article should be considered on its own merits. Do open separate requested move discussion for each article. (closed by non-admin page mover) – robertsky (talk) 17:06, 27 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Hart Dynasty → Hart Dynasty
The Hart Foundation → Hart Foundation
The Public Enemy (professional wrestling) → Public Enemy (professional wrestling)
The Samoan SWAT Team → Samoan SWAT Team
The Young Bucks → Young Bucks
The Bella Twins → Bella Twins
The British Bulldogs → British Bulldogs
The Royal Kangaroos → Royal Kangaroos
The Bollywood Boyz → Bollywood Boyz
The Backseat Boyz → Backseat Boyz

– Per WP:THE, "The" should generally not be used at the beginning of article titles. Moving these pages will comply with the style guide and standardise these titles with other titles. McPhail (talk) 12:22, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - Per WP:THE, the word "The" is capitalized if it would be used in running text. Further, it states that the stylization used by the group is essential in determining whether this is the case. To demonstrate this, it shows that some bands used "The" regularly on their albums and should therefore be referred to as such, while other bands did not (for example, The Bangles, but Eagles). Grouping all of these teams together doesn't make sense when they are to be considered individually rather than going for "standardization" that isn't required or encouraged by style guidelines. GaryColemanFan (talk) 23:02, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per GaryColemanFan's reasonsings.★Trekker (talk) 05:16, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose all but Public Enemy Bad enough someone's already fucked up The Killer Bees. What would Howard Finkel say? That's the only thing you need to ask yourself, man, who might reasonably call any wrestling group Hart Foundation, period! InedibleHulk (talk) 05:31, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
And in case it's not obvious enough, Public Enemy wore their name on their shirts, before wallowing in your own merch was cool. They were visionaries. Not in the sense that they skunked The Vipers back in that November to remember, but they somehow knew future generations would one day forget the true meaning of Keepin' It Real. InedibleHulk (talk) 02:34, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The proposal is far too broad, each article needs considering on its own merits. GimliDotNet (talk) 11:45, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per above. 162 etc. (talk) 21:04, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Requested move 24 July 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. Consensus that the leading article is not capitalized consistently in sources, and thus that WP:THE should prevail. (closed by non-admin page mover) ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 14:34, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The Hart Foundation → Hart Foundation – Per WP:THE. McPhail (talk) 08:49, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support Rreagan007 (talk) 07:20, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:55, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support. WP:THE is not "get rid of all initial articles", so it would be helpful if the nomination gave some indication that it is written "the Hart Foundation" or "Hart Foundation" rather than "The Hart Foundation". It is easy to find sources capitalizing the "The" mid-sentence, such as [1], [2]. However, there are others going the other way, and topics like "New Era Hart Foundation". So Hart Foundation seems fine. SilverLocust 💬 10:00, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Hart Dynasty

Is there any reliable source mentioning that The Hart Dynasty is related to this stable? Family connections don't prove they are connected. I also think the smaller and less significant derivatives should not have their own sections. BinaryBrainBug (talk) 11:32, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]