Talk:Super Mutant

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Super Mutant was nominated as a Video games good article, but it did not meet the good article criteria at the time (April 18, 2024, reviewed version). There are suggestions on the review page for improving the article. If you can improve it, please do; it may then be renominated.

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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Super Mutant/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Greenish Pickle! (talk · contribs) 12:00, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Pokelego999 (talk · contribs) 20:04, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take on this review soon. 20:04, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Six GA Criteria

1. Article is well-written. A few typos and iffy wordings here and there but nothing too overly detrimental.

2. No OR, all info is cited in the article.

3. Coverage is very minimal, and feels akin to trivial mentions thrown together.

4. Article appears neutral, and does not appear to hold a significantly negative nor positive stance on the subject.

5. Article appears stable. Does not appear to have had any major vandalism occur.

6. Article uses one fair use image with proper rationale.

Lead

-I'd swap the order of "video game franchise" and "Fallout" as the current wording implies the series itself hails from a post-apocalypse

Characteristics

-"The Institute, an elusive faction of scientists in Fallout 4, kidnap the inhabitants of the surrounding region and subject their victims to another strain of FEV for experimentation. Super Mutants created by the Institute are less intelligent compared to other variants but are capable of speaking like normal humans." Wouldn't having the ability to talk make them more intelligent than other Super Mutants, who are unable to do the same? I'm a bit confused since it seems a bit contradictory.

-I'd remove the reference to Deathclaws since we have no context for them.

-"which could be perceived as "damage" by the FEV, and in the attempt to "repair" them, it would render the subject infertile." I'd remove this since this is mostly repeating and confusing the previous sentence.

Development

-Looks good, patched up a few errors and the like here and there.

Appearances

-What is the cathedral?

-Looks good mostly, but the first paragraph feels like it's more about The Master than the Super Mutants. Perhaps this could be shortened a bit and fused with the next paragraph?

Promotion and reception

-I have a great many issues with this Reception, and I'm not even convinced this subject meets the notability thresholds of Wikipedia. Practically every article except the thesis are either trivial mentions, or less about the Super Mutants as characters and more scattered commentary of individual characters or random retcons in series history. There's no real overarching commentary on the species, and more just random tidbits thrown together.

Overall

Sadly going to have to quick-fail this article, since the commentary here is not up to Good Article standards. I'm not convinced this article meets notability, either. My advice to the nominator would be to search for commentary as the Super-Mutants as individuals, as commentary right now is more focused on individual characters or trivial mentions to keep itself afloat. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 20:37, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]