Talk:Stevie Wonder/Archive 3
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George Michael covers
George Michael had cover They Won't Go When I Go, As, I Believe (When I Fall in Love It Will Be Forever) and most recently You and I. He also performed a lot of Wonder's songs on his live concert tours such as Too Shy To Say, Village Ghetto Land, Living For The City (also a live duet with Wonder himself), Superstition, Another Star, Blame It On The Sun, Pastime Paradise.
Shouldn't there be a little paragraph-note (independent) of George Michael covers of Wonder's songs.188.135.56.80 (talk) 14:02, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
- Is this important to Wonder? Did Wonder ever say anything about it publicly? Did Wonder and Michael have a business arrangement? If none of these are true, then it is only important to Michael, and could be mentioned on his biography. Binksternet (talk) 14:13, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
- I think its should be mention in the Impact section. This is important because Wonder influence on George Michael had made him an R&B icon. Michael himself said in an interview that Wonder is his all time music mentor. 188.135.56.80 (talk) 16:53, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
- The importance of Wonder to Michael is high; we agree on this. The importance of Michael to Wonder is probably nil, so Michael does not need to be mentioned in this article. Binksternet (talk) 20:39, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
- Its good you mentioned this. I think there should be more than just "George Michael and Mary J. Blige covered "As" in the late 1990s." As he said George Michael didn't just covered "As". He covered a lot of Stevie's songs. 188.140.128.111 (talk) 18:52, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
ridiculous intro
the introduction makes it sound like Stevie Wonder is some sort of higher being. Can we just say he is a "musician and record producer" instead of the ridiculous title of "American singer-songwriter, multi-instrumentalist, record producer and activist." Owen214 (talk) 15:09, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
- Perhaps you have not met him. :D
- Binksternet (talk) 15:55, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
Edit request from an IP user, 29 October 2011
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Please replace {{Kennedy Center Honorees}}
with {{1999 Kennedy Center Honorees}}
, which is more specific and not so incredibly large in size.
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- Seems uncontroversial, so done. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:33, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
Cause of blindness
There is nothing in the cited reference (the 2010 Larry King Wonder interview) that suggests that elevated oxygen levels were not at fault for Wonder's blindness, and the article on retinopathy of prematurity strongly supports the causality of elevated incubator oxygen levels. I have marked this statement as unsupported by sources, but I think the comment about oxygen not causing the condition should probably be removed. Jonabbey (talk) 20:39, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
- As a person whose blindness was also caused by this condition, that text made absolutely no sense to me either. So I've revised it to conform with the cited source. Graham87 06:27, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
Missing link
The discog for "I Ain't Gonna Stand for It" is missing should point to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Ain't_Gonna_Stand_for_It — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121translation (talk • contribs) 22:58, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
- I've added the link. Thanks for pointing this out. Graham87 06:24, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
Most known songs?
Why is there no example from his landmark album Innervisions. Either "Living For The City" or "Higher Ground" should be on that list. I'd add it, but the page is semi protected so it won't let me... --Mrmoustache14 (talk) 05:05, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
Edit/Addition to Infobox: Notable Instruments
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Stevie has been playing and writing[1] with a rather unusual new instrument lately, called the Harpejji. He's doing some really neat work with it and, as it is such a novel instrument, I'd like to propose that it be added under a "Notable Instruments" section in the Infobox. Any objections? RoaringOasis (talk) 03:40, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
- Not done. You're already confirmed. The editsemiprotected template is only for use by IP's or new users who aren't autoconfirmed already. You are already autoconfirmed. If you think it should be added, go ahead. gwickwire | Leave a message 19:39, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
Edit request on 21 April 2013
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Stevie Wonder's "You Are The Sunshine of My Life" hit #1 AC and that should be acknowledged. Currter (talk) 05:04, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
- Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. The article already says in several places that it went to number 1. RudolfRed (talk) 05:41, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
Anecdote
GOT A PHONE CALL MANY YEARS AGO FROM A PERSON THAT REPORTED HE NEEDED A DR FOR HIS FRIEND STEVE WONDEER.....I HAD NEVER HEARD OF HIM BUT MY CHILDRN WHO WERE IN THE ROOM HAD....AND JUMPED IN THE AIR WHEN THEY HEARD HE WAS SICK AND NEEDED ME....SO I WENT TO SEE HIM AND FOUND HIM WITH A RATHER SEVERE SORE THROAT.....GAVE HIM ANTIBIOTIC AND HE PERFORMED THAT NIGHT.....HE WANTED TO PAY ME AND I SAID NO BECAUSE MY KIDS WERE SO EXCITED THAT I WAS GOOD ENOUGH TO SEE STEVE WONDER....AFTER SEEING HIM WE TALKED ABOUT HIS COMPOSING MUSIC FOR AN HOUR AND HE SAID TO HAVE MY CHILDREN COME TO THE SHOW THAT NIGHT AND TELL THE ADMISSION CLERK WHO THEY WERE....THEY DID AND AFTER THE SHOW HE INVITED THEM BACK TO HIS ROOM TO TALK TO THEM......HE WAS SUCH A NICE PERSON THAT MY CHILDREN WERE STILL TALKING ABOUT THAT NIGHT MANY DECADES LATER....... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.254.27.74 (talk) 18:24, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
Edit request: 10/13/2013
Can you state that Wonder is working on two new albums for 2014: a symphonic album Ten Billion Hearts of old and new material with David Foster and a gospel album Gospel Inspired by Lula, in memory of his mother? Here's the link to prove it:.[2] Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.136.54.8 (talk) 20:19, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
- Per these two articles, the information can be obtained and added to the article about his two new albums and him working on a third...
- Stevie Wonder plans to release two albums next year, including some newly written songs, and he's working on a third. The 63-year-old performer said in an interview Tuesday that his first albums in eight years would be "When the World Began", a collaboration with producer David Foster, and "Ten Billion Hearts". Wonder, who filed for divorce last year, said the new music was inspired by "my children, family, change, growth, heartbreaks." He's also using hip-hop elements to convey political messages. First, though, Wonder plans a celebration of one of his most acclaimed albums, 1976's "Songs in the Key of Life". Joined by musicians from the original recording as well as contemporary recording artists, Wonder will perform the album in its entirety for the first time Dec. 21 at his annual Los Angeles charity concert. Last year's House Full of Toys benefit concert included performances from Justin Bieber and Drake.[2]
- Additional info about the Songs in the Key of Life album concert can be found here: [3] 74.62.92.20 (talk) 08:12, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
Some problems with this article:
It's no secret based on the notices above some of the sections, that there are problems with this article. Here are a few that I thought wouldn't take long to resolve:
1. Multiple artists in this section are now missing and therefore the template is not required (and other examples should be listed)...
Songs sampled by other musicians
This section may contain an excessive amount of intricate detail that may only interest a specific audience. Please help relocate any relevant information, and remove excessive detail that may be against Wikipedia inclusion policy. (June 2011)
2. In the Personal Life section (and in a few other places), there are names that need the related-article format removed so they are not red (no articles exist).
3. The Impact section needs to be reworded and have a few sources added.
4. There are a few places that need to have songs fixed such as at the end of the Current career: 2002–present section: ie. "Ribbon In The Sky" missing the " " and "Wonder will appear on singer Celine Dion's upcoming studio album Loved Me Back to Life performing a cover of his 1985 song Overjoyed.[54] The album is due for release in October 2013." It should be Loved Me Back to Life and "Overjoyed", etc.
5. In this same section, there are individual sentences that could be combined into a paragraph so it doesn't appear as "listing" the events (ie. the beginning and ending of this sentence mentioned in #4). If too much info is given, try to reduce it per the template above the section. The previous section (Later career: 1991–2001) also contains the same thing.
Other than adding his new upcoming albums and concert (see previous talk topic) and perhaps expanding the intro a little, if these issues are fixed/resolved, please remove the template notices above the sections so editors know it's been taken care of. Thank you, have a great day!
P.s. Off the topic, whoever thought of using ~ for the signature should change it, since it's right by the ESC key. Just saying... (Sigh/Ugh!) Hehe. 74.62.92.20 (talk) 08:53, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
Stevie Wonder's contribution to the song "That's What Friends Are For" is noteworthy, but the song itself was not "AIDS-inspired" as written in the article. Wikipedia itself informs us that the song was originally written in 1982, and performed by Rod Stewart for the motion picture "Nightshift". See the link here -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/That%27s_What_Friends_Are_For This needs clarification. 2001:558:6016:33:642C:CAE:690E:1626 (talk) 19:46, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
- Good catches. I have struck though the above issues that I have taken care of. Maybe someone else can take care of the other issues. --Musdan77 (talk) 20:21, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for your assistance. The most recent contribution also needs fixing: properly format the two albums, rumors is misspelled and "link" to David Foster article. I left a note on the editor's talk page as well. Also, the statement itself may need rewording and double-check with additional sources I provided above regarding "rumors"... (possible "original research")? And the song Bridge Over Troubled Water needs " " around it. 74.62.92.20 (talk) 02:03, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
Religion
No mention of his religion? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.28.63.13 (talk) 11:14, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
- As far as I know, he's never said that he follows one religion. But, if you can find a reliable source where he talks about it, let us know. --Musdan77 (talk) 04:11, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
"We Didn't Know" Duet with Whitney Houston
Just wanted to say that the duet he did with Whitney Houston on her album I'm Your Baby Tonight titled "We Didn't Know" isn't mentioned or listed on his singles discography, it was a hit on the R & B charts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.47.36.207 (talk) 03:38, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
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Stevie sang and played harmonica on "Someday" by the GAP Band.
68.184.113.177 (talk) 05:17, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
- Not done: please make your request in a "change X to Y" format. Technical 13 (talk) 05:36, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
Caption under the main image
The caption, as of writing this, is 'Stevie Wonder in 1973, at an early stage of his "classic period"'. My suggestion is 'Stevie Wonder performing in 1973'. My problem with the current caption is that it's not succinct enough, contains redundant information (you can read in the article that what's considered his 'classic period' started in about 1972, which naturally leads the reader to knowing that 1973 is an early stage of his classic period, as long as they have extremely basic math skills), and it offers information that, to the new learner about Stevie Wonder, can be confusing. It doesn't explain what his classic period was, it just says it was at the beginning of his classic period. A new learner might be pushed away by this lack of explanation. You have to read further into the article for it to be informative, which largely defeats the point of having it in the caption anyway, especially when the only people who will understand it from the caption are people who are already familiar with his classic period, who probably could already figure out that 1973 is an early year in that. My suggestion is still informative, and provides information that anybody can clearly understand.
The reason why I think these reasons matter is that 1. it looks better and feels better to read which I think should be a goal for a Wikipedia writer, 2. it conforms more to the guidelines on the page Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Captions. If we look there, the first guideline is:
"A good caption 1. clearly identifies the subject of the picture, without detailing the obvious. 2. is succinct. 3. establishes the picture's relevance to the article. 4. provides context for the picture. 5. draws the reader into the article."
I think that all of these goals are better achieved by shortening the caption to "Stevie Wonder performing in 1973".
Additionally, if we look at another article for reference, one that's even featured, Michael Jackson, we can see that the caption in that article, as of writing this, is "Michael Jackson performing in 1988", which is similarly clear and succinct. You could also edit that one to "Michael Jackson performing in 1988 during his Bad Tour", but that's not necessary for having a clear, informative caption. That MJ caption, in particular, would be more clear to the brand new learner, though, than anything about a "classic period", because tours are commonplace and well-understood whereas Stevie Wonder is the only artist (at least that I know of) to have what many people refer to as his classic period.
Again, my suggestion is Stevie Wonder performing in 1973 (without the bold) for the main image caption. I'll edit it myself in a few days if this doesn't get any responses by then. If you disagree, please respond with your argument. Thank you for reading and have a nice day! :) Ironbirdiemix (talk) 19:53, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
- Tend to agree. Although I always try to slip in the actual location too (in the case apparently a Motown recording studio, but the source is unclear.) Martinevans123 (talk) 20:20, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
- You're right (I'm wondering why I didn't make that change myself) ...except that -- only the last name should be used for the subject of the article, because his first name is in the infobox title above. --Musdan77 (talk) 03:00, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
- So are we sure he was "performing" or was he just just "recording" in the studio? I realise there is some overlap in these terms, but the stance, headphones and type of microphone suggest very strongly that this is no "a performance". I suspect the signed photo from which this image was taken (originally an eBay item) was a stock publicity shot, take in the Motown studio, for sending out to fans, etc. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:26, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
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In 1969 Stevie Wonder attended the Italian musical competition "San Remo", singing with Gabriella Ferri "Se tu ragazzo mio". 79.20.230.100 (talk) 09:34, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 09:57, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
Songs In The Key Of Life - Ranking on Rolling Stone Top 500 Albums
This article states that SITKOL ranks 56th on this list, but I followed the link, and the RS site has it at 57th. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.200.132.25 (talk) 13:34, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
- Absolutely right. Fixed. Spicemix (talk) 21:06, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
Kids
Discrepancy of number of children with current woman, and newest daughter is born. [3]
- Unlikely to be mistaken, but do you have a better source? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:29, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Stevie Wonder: 'I'm Writing Really Different Songs'". Rolling Stone Magazine, August 31, 2012. rollingstone.com.
- ^ [[1]]
- ^ https://celebrity.yahoo.com/news/stevie-wonder-welcomes-ninth-child-baby-girl-named-011000134-us-weekly.html.
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2014 Grammy awards appearance
By all accounts, Stevie Wonder's live television appearance with Daft Punk, Pharrell Willaims, and Nile Rodgers on the 2014 Grammy's, performing a mash up of Daft Punk's "Get Lucky", Rodgers's "Le Freak" and Wonder's "Another Star" was one of the, if not the, highlight of the program. It should definitely be mentioned among his more current performances.
68.60.66.69 (talk) 08:33, 1 February 2015 (UTC)Ken Holsgrove
References
- ^ http://www.billboard.com/articles/events/grammys-2014/5885372/daft-punk-jams-with-stevie-wonder-pharrell-nile-rodgers-at
- ^ http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/daft-punk-and-stevie-wonder-lead-funky-disco-smash-up-at-grammys-20140126
- ^ http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/daft-punk-stevie-wonder-pharrell-674151
Name
I am just watching a 25th anniversary of Motown program on PBS that is from 1983. Martha Reeves claimed that she named Stevie Wonder. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.143.45.115 (talk) 04:12, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
Early life: "... changed her son's surname to Morris, partly because of relatives"?
The [Early Life] section includes the following sentence about Stevie's mother:
She changed her name back to Lula Hardaway and later changed her son's surname to Morris, partly because of relatives.
What does "partly because of relatives" mean? She wanted his last name to match some relatives' last name? Some relatives hated his last name of Judkins? And, in any case, where does this information come from? -- Dan Griscom (talk) 02:30, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
Drums
Stevie has played nearly all the drums on his major records and throughout his adult career... shouldn't drums be mentioned in his infobox as one of his instruments? I know the list isn't supposed to go on endlessly, but I think drums meet the criteria. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zabboo (talk • contribs) 02:37, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
- Secondary instruments do not go in the infobox, but drums should be addressed in the article body. Mlpearc (open channel) 02:41, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
- Harmonica is a much more secondary instrument than drums on his recordings. He is credited with "drums" or ”percussion" on 14 tracks of Songs in the key of life and every track on Talking Book. I'm adding it. deisenbe (talk) 15:08, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
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I would like to request a change in Stevie Wonder's wikipedia page. There seems to be a major error in his biography, due to the lack of information for his "daredevil" phase during the 1950's. Qwertyuasdfghj456789 (talk) 04:10, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
- Not done: as you have not requested a specific change in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
More importantly, you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 09:53, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
grammar problem in "1970–79 section
The second sentence of this sections refers ambiguously to "the next album" when it should refer to "Wonder's next album": "Wright and Wonder worked together on the next album, Where I'm Coming From" (both Wright and Wonder were recording artists, so the sentence should make clear whose album is being discussed). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.205.4.242 (talk) 23:00, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
Stevie's early-70s self-financed/independently recorded albums: source? Details?
The article states the following: "During this period, Wonder independently recorded two albums and signed a contract with Motown Records."
Were those albums ever released, intact, or were individual tracks taken from these sessions and released on his Motown albums following his re-signing in 1971? If the albums were released intact, as recorded, which albums are they? What is the source for this information? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.205.4.242 (talk) 23:08, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
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Stevie Wonder Is Not Blind
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Semi-protected edit request on 28 May 2018
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Under Wonder's awards and recognition, the following recognition is suggested.
In December 2016, the City of Detroit recognized Stevie Wonder's legacy by renaming a portion of his childhood street, Milwaukee Avenue West, "Stevie Wonder Avenue" between Woodward Avenue and Brush Street. He was also awarded an honorary key to the city, presented by Mayor Mike Duggan.
Source: https://www.freep.com/story/entertainment/music/2016/12/21/stevie-wonder-avenue-unveiling-ceremony-detroit/95697552/ MLW 0392 (talk) 06:19, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
- Done Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:54, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
How did a blind man write songs?
This question popped into my head, and I couldn't find an answer on this page. Does Wonder compose his songs in Braille somehow? The details of how such a prolific, blind songwriter gets the tunes from his head to paper seems a noteworthy question. Anyone know the answer? Jojopeanut (talk) 23:21, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
- Any MIDI empowered keyboard can "record" what's been played into it, and I've even used (more recent) software that can take MIDI signals and transpose them to actual conventional staff notation. MIDI specifications evolved from the early 1980s [1] TheBustopher (talk) 09:26, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
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in the honorary degrees section it says countries when it lists states and should be changed to states 76.220.214.106 (talk) 01:42, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
semi-protected edit request
The article gives date of birth 3 times. It says 15th May 1950 in the header paragraph and 13th May 1950 in the side box and "Early life" section. Other sites say 13th.
The incorrect 15th needs changing to 13th. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.69.45.180 (talk) 02:09, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- Not done The date in this article is sourced to this book, which looks perfectly reliable. Other sources you have seen may be wrong. If you think you have more reliable sources, please provide them here. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:07, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
Suggested addition to Awards and Recognition
Under "Grammy Awards" it currently states, that Wonder "is one of only two artists and groups who have won the Grammy for Album of the Year three times as the main credited artist, along with Frank Sinatra." This is of course true, but another distinction should be added that separates Wonder from all others: Stevie Wonder is the only artist to have won the Grammy for Album of the Year for three consecutive album releases (his 5th, 6th and 7th studio albums). Innervisions was released in 1973, Fulfillingness' First Finale was released in 1974 and the double album Songs in the Key of Life was released in 1976. This is an amazing accomplishment that has never been achieved by any other artist in Grammy history and should be noted (if it is ever matched, my money is on Adele, but it hasn't happened yet).
Although this distinction is obvious from just looking at all the Grammy Album of the Year winners, it has yet to actually be highlighted anywhere. For support, I refer to Wikipedia's Grammy Album of the Year page and the Grammy.com Album of the Year Winner pages and its Stevie Wonder page for sources. FYI, Grammy.com also does not currently include this distinction on its Stevie Wonder page - hopefully, they will add this distinction when/if it is added to the Wikipedia page.
Maal74 (talk) 23:49, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
- Done I have added a sentence. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:11, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
References
Funeral of Ariana Grande
This article could point out that Stevie Wonder was at the funeral of Ariana Grande. Vorbee (talk) 17:04, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
- I added a mention in the Personal life section, except it was Aretha's funeral, not Ariana's! Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:24, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 12 February 2019
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Update his achievements on the first page.89.241.108.216 (talk) 17:59, 12 February 2019 (UTC) 89.241.108.216 (talk) 17:59, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
- Are you making the same request as added at "Suggested addition to Awards and Recognition" above? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:04, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. DannyS712 (talk) 20:39, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
Error in the text
In the section 1970–1979: Seventies albums and classic period the current text indicates: " On August 6, 1973, Wonder was in a serious automobile accident while on tour in North Carolina, when a car in which he was riding hit the back of a truck.[31][41] "
However Steve Wonder was blind and unable to ride. The conductor was his brother John Wesley Harris. The text should be : " On August 6, 1973, Wonder was in a serious automobile accident while on tour in North Carolina, when a car driven by his cousin John Wesley Harris (Stevie was sitting in the front of the car) hit the back of a truck.[31][41] "
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There should be more detail on his awards and inductions he has received. 92.7.38.194 (talk) 12:18, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. – Þjarkur (talk) 12:34, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
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59.100.152.98 (talk) 01:33, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
add Reggae also (about "Master Blaster (Jammin')" song)
- Not done. Certainly the song has been described as reggae and more, but Stevie Wonder himself has never been described as a reggae musician. Binksternet (talk) 01:56, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
Semi Protected Edit request on 16 October 2019
It is suggested that Stevie Wonder being the 'youngest artist' to top the Billboard Hot 100 be changed to 'youngest solo artist' since Michael Jackson, as a part of Jackson 5 topped the Billboard Hot 100 singles at age 11. Michael Jackson (age 11 years, 155 days) is the youngest artist to top the Hot 100. He achieved the record, as part of the Jackson 5, with "I Want You Back" on January 31, 1970. Stevie Wonder (age 13 years, 89 days) is the youngest solo artist to top the Hot 100. He set the record with "Fingertips Pt. 2" on August 10, 1963.
Sources https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/news/60at60/2015/8/1963-youngest-solo-artist-at-no-1-392993 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Billboard_Hot_100_chart_achievements_and_milestones#Age_records — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karthik.vignesh (talk • contribs) 19:03, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
Harmonica
I agree with the recent change to reduce the long list of instruments in the infobox, but would think we'd include harmonica - especially thinking of the "Little Stevie" phase. --John (User:Jwy/talk) 16:01, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
- His primary instruments are vocals and piano, yes he plays the harmonica but, fans and the like do not go to one of his concerts to hear his harmonica playing, they first expect to hear him sing and play piano (his main gig). Mlpearc (open channel) 16:22, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
- Keyboard and vocal are prominent. But I've seen "Little Stevie" playing the harmonica as much as I've seen him playing keyboard. Let's see what others have to say. --John (User:Jwy/talk) 19:01, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
- Wonder's distinctive harmonica playing has been central, and in my view pivotal, to his output throughout his career. He's also made a number of notable harmonica-playing guest appearances on other musicians' hit records. To omit the harmonica would be a travesty. He is a true multi-instrumentalist. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:49, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, it's an essential part of his sound. Rothorpe (talk) 19:57, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
His harmonica playing is a definite part of his overall sound on many tracks. I think it should go back in! Sidlid (talk) 14:17, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
The Stevie Wonder article should edited.
Hi, i think the Stevie Wonder article has some things out of date. For example the age is out of date. I hope someone can fix this soon. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Levthecooldude666 (talk • contribs) 21:50, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
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Hi, i want to edit Stevie Wonders age. Thank you if you let me edit the article. Thank you. Levthecooldude666 Levthecooldude666 (talk) 03:06, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
- Not done: this is not the right page to request additional user rights. You may reopen this request with the specific changes to be made and someone will add them for you, or if you have an account, you can wait until you are autoconfirmed and edit the page yourself. RandomCanadian (talk | contribs) 03:34, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 20 August 2020
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Add Honorary Doctorate Degree
State = New Jersey Date = May 19, 1999 School = Rutgers University Degree = Doctor of Fine Arts
Sources: https://www.billboard.com/photos/8457783/musicians-with-honorary-degrees http://www.mtv.com/news/514322/wonder-receives-honorary-rutgers-doctorate/ https://www.billboard.com/photos/6099078/music-stars-honorary-college-degrees-kanye-west-jon-bon-jovi-aretha-franklin-more 73.39.72.230 (talk) 22:59, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
- Done, added in Stevie Wonder#1991–1999: Continued released new material, 1996 Summer Olympics. ◢ Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 13:02, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
typo in the fourth paragraph
it says rock and rock hall of fame (as opposed to rock and roll hall of fame) and i was hoping someone would fix it because it greatly annoys me and i cant edit the page— Preceding unsigned comment added by 223.17.74.208 (talk • contribs)
- Done Has been fixed (thanks Proscribe).--☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(ring-ring) 18:27, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
Stevie Wonder is moving to Ghana
Please add information to this page concerning Stevie's plans on moving out of the USA. Rakster101101 (talk) 14:00, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- It seems that's what he's told Oprah anyway. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:05, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- Plans can be changed and many famous people have espoused the intention to move out of the US without actually doing it so at this point its nothing more than tabloid fodder. I think we should wait until he follows through. Ckruschke (talk) 19:35, 25 February 2021 (UTC)Ckruschke
Mother Thank You
Could Mother Thank you actually be 'To thank you for loving me all the way'? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Quit42 (talk • contribs) 12:26, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
- (moved to bottom of the page to maintain chronological order) AngryHarpytalk 13:08, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 5 July 2021
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Stevie Wonder's children, consisting of Aisha Morris, Keita Morris, Mumtaz Morris, Kailand Morris, Sophia Morris, Kwame Morris, Mandla Kadjay Carl Stevland Morris, Zaiah Morris, and Nia Morris. Kjrevel (talk) 21:39, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:47, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
Discography
SilkTork, for the most part, I like your changes, but per WP:WikiProject Musicians/Article guidelines#Discography section and WP:Manual of Style (lists of works)#Discographies, if a musician has his own discography article, the discography section of the musician's primary article should only provide a summary of the musician's major works using a simple list of their studio albums. Only for artists without separate discography pages should there be extra information, such as record labels, chart positions, etc., because it's just unnecessary redundancy. --Musdan77 (talk) 20:24, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
- Agree. I have changed it. SilkTork ✔Tea time 17:57, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
The section "1980–1990: Commercial period" mentions the album "Stevie Wonder's Original Musiquarium" but that album isn't listed in the Discography. JPeek (talk) 14:35, 31 August 2021 (UTC)JPeek
- This should be a new talk section, since it really has nothing to do with the original thread,, but either way since the Musiquarium album is a compilation release it wouldn't by definition be listed with his studio albums. It is however listed on Wonder's discography under compilation albums. Ckruschke (talk) 19:04, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 18 June 2022
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Change…He is one of only two artists and groups who have won the Grammy for Album of the Year three times as the main credited artist, along with Frank Sinatra.
To….He is one of only three artists and groups who have won the Grammy for Album of the Year three times as the main credited artist, along with Frank Sinatra and Taylor Swift. Paullococo (talk) 16:07, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
Taylor Swift Wins Album Of The Year For 'Folklore' | 2021 GRAMMY Awards Show. Taylor Swift won Album Of The Year for Folklore at the 63rd GRAMMY Awards. This marks their 11th career GRAMMY win and third Album Of The Year win. Paullococo (talk) 16:11, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
This correction is for Stevie wonder’s Wikipedia page Paullococo (talk) 18:48, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- Not done Looking at most wins by an artist, there seem to be four artists tied on three wins each? Martinevans123 (talk) 19:01, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
The fourth is Paul Simon he only won two Grammys for album of the year himself and 1 for Simon and Garfunkel for Album of the year. So technically he only has 2. Stevie Wonder Frank Sinatra and Taylor Swift each have 3 Grammys for album of the year. This Wikipedia page is incorrect and should be edited so it is factual. Thank you as it is a protected page and I can’t edit it. Paullococo (talk) 21:19, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- You may need to suggest a change at Talk:Grammy Award records. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:21, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
Breakout Album
Talking Book 2601:190:8201:6D60:D1D3:19E:E24C:9F14 (talk) 10:57, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
Wiki Education assignment: Black American Music 209
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 23 October 2022 and 15 December 2022. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Mthomas033 (article contribs).
— Assignment last updated by 4evafly (talk) 14:21, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 31 January 2023
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To eat a cookie 184.81.6.18 (talk) 20:21, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 11 February 2023
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Add to table of honorary degrees: "Brown University, 1987, Mus.D." - footnoted https://www.brown.edu/about/administration/corporation/1900s TomWeber4769 (talk) 00:17, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Done - thanks for that - Alison talk 00:41, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 8 June 2023
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ADD TO HONORARY DEGREES: Fordham University May 20, 2023, Doctor of Humane Letters 32.219.186.83 (talk) 16:15, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 16:43, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
- Source. And he performed 86.187.173.71 (talk) 16:52, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
Dangling modifier
This is gobbledygook: "A virtual one-man band, Wonder's use ..." If the sentence begins, "A virtual one-man band, ..." then the subject of the sentence should be "Wonder." So it should read, "A virtual one-man band, Wonder used synthesizers and other electronic musical instruments during the 1970s, reshaping the conventions of contemporary R&B." 68.237.53.122 (talk) 16:51, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 15 May 2024
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change Stevie Wonder is a American Ghanaian to Stevie Wonder is an American.
Him receiving citizenship can be notated on the side like it is for Christopher Bridges, but categorizing him as a American Ghanaian is misrepresentation for those who actually have Ghanaian and American heritage, in which Stevie Wonder does not. He is of Black American lineage 58.69.9.90 (talk) 03:03, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- Pinging @Koavf who just made this change. Jamedeus (talk) 03:31, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- I have no clue what you are talking about. If someone gets Ghanaian citizenship, he is Ghanaian. If someone's ancestors are from Ghana but he is not, he is ethnically Ghanaian. W. E. B. du Bois is Ghanaian, Stevie Wonder is Ghanaian, lots of persons are Ghanaian and them being Ghanaian in no way disenfranchises someone else from having that nationality. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:48, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I agree. Martinevans123 (talk) 07:06, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- I agree, and also with your view, Martinevans123, that the discussion on this Talk page be limited to the article on Stevie Wonder. From my reading of what he has said, I think he himself would also find the description American-Ghanaian preferable. Proscribe (talk) 19:32, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I agree. Martinevans123 (talk) 07:06, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
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Please re-add relevant Ghanaian categories. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:57, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Koavf: I believe you far more than meet the requirements for autoconfirmed; was this edit request intended? Tollens (talk) 05:42, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
- No. I am under 0RR. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:44, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
- Ah, I see. Done for the one category that was removed, because the other two were not and it seems the actual dispute is just about the lead section, so I assume this is an uncontroversial reversion. If I am incorrect, please feel free to remove the category, I have no opinion whatsoever on the change. Tollens (talk) 06:56, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
- No. I am under 0RR. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:44, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
Citizenship
Wonder's Ghanaian citizenship does not belong in the lede. If this were the case, why is Tom Hanks not referred to as an "American-Greek" actor? Thanks. dekema (Formerly Buffaboy) (talk) 14:55, 14 May 2024 (UTC) dekema (Formerly Buffaboy) (talk) 14:55, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- It looks like a very similar case. Do we have any statement by Wonder saying that his Ghanaian citizenship is of less importance to him than his American one? I'm assuming only he could really make that judgement. Perhaps he hasn't had time to make any statement on it yet. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:06, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- His citizenship should not reflect what he is. He is not Ghanaian. This is a misrepresentation for those who are of actual Ghanaian heritage. 58.69.9.90 (talk) 02:54, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- Citizenship =/= ethnicity. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:50, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- This is just "something else doesn't exist, therefore, this shouldn't exist" which is a very weak argument at best. Do you have any guidance from the MOS? To my knowledge, this is only discussed at MOS:DUALNATIONALITIES. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:50, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think we need to reference the MoS. This is common sense... has he stated that his Ghanaian citizenship is equal to his American one? dekema (Formerly Buffaboy) (talk) 04:38, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- Has he stated it? what? Who states that? @Dekema: Please undo your edit, as it is sourced. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:42, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- The MOS advice is about punctuation, not whether or not dual nationality should always appear in the lead section? But one could argue that it's a simple fact that should be summarised in the lead. Unless Wonder himself makes a statement, it seems fair to assume that he sees them as equally important. Martinevans123 (talk) 07:04, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- Then let's go ahead and add it to every celebrity who has a second citizenship. I think this is a bit petty to be honest. Natalie Portman was born in Israel. Do we call her "American-Israeli?" dekema (Formerly Buffaboy) (talk) 13:52, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- This is the Talk page for Stevie Wonder, so it might be best to just limit our discussion to him? If you have a proposal for defining more clearly how dual-citizenship should be shown in the lead section of all BIO articles, you might be better raising this at a more central location such as MOS:LEAD? Meanwhile it's probably best if you leave the article alone, while consensus is established, rather than edit warring your preferred version. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:16, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- Additionally, this applies to categories that were removed/could be added. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:37, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- The two top article contributors are Proscribe and SilkTork, so I would invite them to comment. Many thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:50, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- There should still be consistency among articles, which is why I'm linking to these individuals. We can't just ascribe these things based on a singular event. Again, with many celebrities you will hardly see them referred to as dual citizens in the lede unless they have significant ties to that country, i.e. how Michael J. Fox was born and raised in Canada. Even Tina Turner, who moved to Switzerland decades ago is not referred to as American-Swiss. In that article, no nationality is mentioned in the lede. Maybe that's what should happen here. dekema (Formerly Buffaboy) (talk) 20:47, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- Did you see my comment? You might be better raising this at a more central location such as MOS:LEAD? Martinevans123 (talk) 21:31, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- In the absence of any clear guideline, one might very easily argue that all individuals need to be assessed on their own merits. So what one editor might see as "necessary consistency", another editor might see as an "unnecessary straightjacket". Martinevans123 (talk) 09:57, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- Responding to the ping. I don't think I can be of much help here. I'd actually prefer us not to give people's nationality or citizenship in the lead, as these things are trivial yet contentious, and I wonder why we do it. I'd prefer if we are to mention nations (which are arbitrary and can change - the world maps I studied as a child are very different to today's world maps), that we say something more factual and uncontroversial, such as "Stevie Wonder was born and brought up in America" ...."in 2024 he was granted citizenship of Ghana". We don't actually need to say he is American or Ghanaian. I know that Wonder wanted to give up music and move to Ghana and help folks there way back in the Seventies. There was much coverage of that in the music papers at the time. He was talked out of it, and told he could help more African people with his music. The Ghana citizenship is clearly something that is important to him, and a mention of this in the article is appropriate. Should that mention be in the lead? I'd say no. Considering all that he has done and all that he is, the Ghana citizenship is fairly minor and personal. Rather less so than information about his wives and children. Syreeta is a more significant piece of information than the gift of Ghana citizenship from a country which hands out such citizenships for political reasons of their own, but Syreeta is not in the lead. I feel that having the Ghana citizenship in the info box and details later in the article is sufficient. MOS:CITIZEN gives some loose advice, which leans on mentioning dual nationality in the lead only if it is reasonably significant (such as that a person was known as living and working as a national in two countries). A promotional gift is really not a significant reason in my view. SilkTork (talk) 13:33, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- That's all very reasonable, thanks. I'd have to agree that being the recipient of a gift of citizenship is likely to be very less significant than having had to actively win a second citizenship. Leaving it out of the lead section altogether might be a good way of avoiding a
tetchy disputeprolonged cordial debate. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:48, 16 May 2024 (UTC) - Another possibility might be a footnote next to "American". Martinevans123 (talk) 07:48, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
- That's all very reasonable, thanks. I'd have to agree that being the recipient of a gift of citizenship is likely to be very less significant than having had to actively win a second citizenship. Leaving it out of the lead section altogether might be a good way of avoiding a
- This is the Talk page for Stevie Wonder, so it might be best to just limit our discussion to him? If you have a proposal for defining more clearly how dual-citizenship should be shown in the lead section of all BIO articles, you might be better raising this at a more central location such as MOS:LEAD? Meanwhile it's probably best if you leave the article alone, while consensus is established, rather than edit warring your preferred version. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:16, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- Then let's go ahead and add it to every celebrity who has a second citizenship. I think this is a bit petty to be honest. Natalie Portman was born in Israel. Do we call her "American-Israeli?" dekema (Formerly Buffaboy) (talk) 13:52, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think we need to reference the MoS. This is common sense... has he stated that his Ghanaian citizenship is equal to his American one? dekema (Formerly Buffaboy) (talk) 04:38, 15 May 2024 (UTC)