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Requested move 26 September 2023
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: Moved to Mirror's Edge (mobile) (closed by non-admin page mover) BegbertBiggs (talk) 17:19, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
Mirror's Edge (2010 video game) → Mirror's Edge (mobile game) – This, I think, is a better disambiguation option as it doesn't rely on users knowing what year the original game released in before selecting an article from the search results. Mirror's Edge (mobile), an already existing redirect to this article, is another option worth considering, though I wouldn't assume that everyone knows that "mobile" alone refers to a type of video game and think including "game" better clarifies that. It's also worth noting that, in contrast to this current title, Mirror's Edge (2008 video game) doesn't currently exist as of this message (perhaps it should regardless of the outcome of this discussion). QuietHere (talk | contributions) 15:18, 26 September 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 14:23, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
Oppose Per WP:NCVGDAB which states that this form of naming is to be used except in the case of platform-specific versions where the year would remain ambiguous. (i.e. If Mirrors Edge and its mobile version were both released in 2010, it would be named like that, but they were released in different years). However, because the original Mirrors Edge is the obvious WP:PRIMARYTOPIC it does not require disambiguation. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 13:03, 27 September 2023 (UTC)- Changing to support because I saw that the console title had a couple of 2010 releases in various countries. It is overly confusing to disambiguate the mobile game as solely a "2010 video game". ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 05:05, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
- Support. I don't think NCVGDAB is being helpful to readers in this case. Someone looking for this article would be much more likely to know that it was a mobile game than the year of its release I would think. Of the five core criteria for titling articles, I think the proposed title is clear winner for recognisability, naturalness and precision, a wash on concision and only consistency favours the current title. Jenks24 (talk) 11:10, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
- I am equally fine with Mirror's Edge (mobile). Jenks24 (talk) 09:38, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
- Note: WikiProject Video games has been notified of this discussion. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 14:23, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
- Support Point No. 3 of NCVGDAB recommends Mirror's Edge (mobile), but (mobile game) works too. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 14:29, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
- I'm fine with just mobile, and since that's what NCVGDAB says is preferred I imagine more folks would support that. I'm not familiar with that precedent but I won't oppose it. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 14:33, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose, per the disambig guideline and WP:CONSISTENT. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 20:02, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
- Support just "mobile". Agreed that "mobile" serves the reader better than "2010", no matter what NCVGDAB says. Agreed with Jenks24's policy-backed reasoning. czar 22:46, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
- Support. I understand the opposition, but I feel like the average person is more likely to recognize the platform than they would the year of release. To me, I entered this discussion from WT:VG expecting it was a move discussion about the more iconic Mirror's Edge, because I understood ME to have been released vaguely around that time period. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 21:48, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Cukie Gherkin this reads like you may have it backwards. The article is currently disambiguated by year, and the proposal is to change it to the platform for the exact reason you say you were confused just now. Unless I've misunderstood you, it sounds like you're in support of that move. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 21:56, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
- My argument is that changing it to mobile wouldn't create confusion, but because 2008 and 2010 releases are so close, there may be confusion if we do it by year. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 21:58, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Cukie Gherkin Yes, which is exactly what I'm also saying. So why did you vote oppose? Was that a typo? QuietHere (talk | contributions) 22:06, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
- Oh, habit I guess. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 00:56, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Cukie Gherkin Yes, which is exactly what I'm also saying. So why did you vote oppose? Was that a typo? QuietHere (talk | contributions) 22:06, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
- My argument is that changing it to mobile wouldn't create confusion, but because 2008 and 2010 releases are so close, there may be confusion if we do it by year. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 21:58, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Cukie Gherkin this reads like you may have it backwards. The article is currently disambiguated by year, and the proposal is to change it to the platform for the exact reason you say you were confused just now. Unless I've misunderstood you, it sounds like you're in support of that move. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 21:56, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
- Support Like Cukie, I thought this was the popular one we were discussing. This would serve readers better. QuicoleJR (talk) 12:11, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
- Support per Jenks. I too was WP:ASTONISHed when this page/discussion was NOT about the console game. "2010" seems not to be a very recognizable disambiguator. Axem Titanium (talk) 02:32, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
- Support moving to Mirror's Edge (mobile). WP:NCVGDAB has separate points for
original
andmobile
games, which suggests that the mobile-game guideline is for "mere" adaptations of existing games. I think this falls under the latter category. I especially question the characterization as aprequel
in the article; I couldn't find any reliable sources that describe it as such. (All the sources I could find that use the word "prequel" in relation to this franchise were about Mirror's Edge Catalyst.) If this can be considered an entirely new/separate game, then I will oppose. Regarding a potential ambiguity (I saw that the console title had a couple of 2010 releases in various countries
): Zxcvbnm, do you have a source for this? Anon126 (notify me of responses! / talk / contribs) 03:48, 9 October 2023 (UTC)