Talk:Malenia

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Add (Elden Ring) in the title

The page's title should be updated to inlude the game's title 173.178.47.221 (talk) 00:12, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Disambiguation is only done if there are multiple competing articles with the same name. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 00:46, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh thanks for the clarification. I thought it would be useful as how vague it is 173.178.47.221 (talk) 01:08, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No problem! - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 02:25, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see the point of this page

There's almost nothing about the concept and cretion of her design. Even her reception section is all over the place and feels more about Let me solo her or other players like Ongbal rather than Malenia herself. This article needs to be rewritten and focus more on Malenia or just remove it entirely for not having relevant informations about the character.2A00:1851:8017:FC37:3007:B90A:6E48:7C3E (talk) 22:28, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The point is that people do these challenges because it's Melania. There are mods designed to make her harder or change the game with her in mind. Multiple articles about her character and design. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 23:15, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This article needs a major rewrite. Mods are not mandatory information for the character. You don't need to write about every gamer and how they played against her. These details are trivial. Dataminers are also not considered reliable sources, and you need to explain how the character was conceptualized and developed. See Leon S Kennedy or Lady Dimitrescu as an example. If this article doesn't improve within the next few days then I would suggest creating a List of Elden Ring characters article and merge Malenia's page with it. SceneryExplorer (talk) 07:38, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The notion that these are trivial details to cover does not bear out, because reliable sources cover them extensively and in great detail. There are no dataminers being cited in the article. And no, you do not need to have conceptualization info to be notable. Nothing you have said is mentioned in WP:GNG. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 11:49, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I concur. There's decent reception and analysis for this character, and no indication of it "falling short". The issue with the lack of development info is, unfortunately, a FromSoftware standard, and not one that should be held against an article; thorough development info is nice, but sometimes you make due with what you have. Additionally I find the list comment to be a bit silly, as there's no indication of overlapping reception for the Elden Ring cast as a whole to warrant such a list, let alone the fact character lists are not dumping grounds for subjects just because WP:IDONTLIKEIT.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 21:30, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]