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Yennefer of Vengerberg was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 19 June 2012 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into List of characters in The Witcher series. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here. |
Starsza Mowa was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 12:43, 4 June 2012 (UTC) with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into List of characters in The Witcher series. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here. |
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Notability
[edit]Article doesn't currently meet notability guidelines per WP:WAF. It doesn't offer real-world perspective or reliable secondary sources. Do not remove the notability tag from the article until notability is established. --Mika1h (talk) 00:22, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
- This problem requires different templates, not notability. You should replace it with unreferenced tag, simply. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 14:26, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
- No. That's why its notability is in question in the first place: it's unreferenced. Go read Wikipedia:Notability to have better understanding of what's required of notable articles. --Mika1h (talk) 16:13, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
- I've added references. The article still needs more, but I think its notability is shown (cult book series, etc.). If you disagree, pleases take it to AfD. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 17:49, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
- No. That's why its notability is in question in the first place: it's unreferenced. Go read Wikipedia:Notability to have better understanding of what's required of notable articles. --Mika1h (talk) 16:13, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
The table of roles
[edit]The table ([1]) added by an anon and removed by User:Miaow seems useful and is sufficiently referenced I think we can let it be. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:53, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
- @Piotrus: The table is confusing. Not just the problems I mentioned, but there are characters that do not exist on the Witcher books, as Dara. There are also several minor characters as Yurga, that are not enough relevant to be mentioned. The page is a list of the book characters similar to the List of Harry Potter characters, not for all the universes and adaptations of this saga. Miaow 02:05, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
- @Miaow: Well, Witcher series, to me, is not just book, but the entire franchise. But I wouldn't object to trimming it a bit, I agree Yurga is likely irrelevant. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:17, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
- @Piotrus: A series is the "series of books". It's clearly stated in the introduction. If it was for the franchise, I'd say franchise. The descriptions of each character are from the books. Also, please note that the videogames are different and that they are not cannon. We can't turn this page in a list of characters to the entire franchise, because the videogames and tv shows (Netflix) have different characters stories and characters that do not exist on the books. I'm not agree. Discussing is first before reverting edits. Regards. Miaow 02:40, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
- The characters you want to mention in the table should have their own description in the next section, like everyone else, for a better structure. However, you should know that it wouldn't be a good idea to use the story line of video games to add additional descriptions to some characters, like Eredin for example, because video games are not considered canonical by the author himself.
- @Piotrus: A series is the "series of books". It's clearly stated in the introduction. If it was for the franchise, I'd say franchise. The descriptions of each character are from the books. Also, please note that the videogames are different and that they are not cannon. We can't turn this page in a list of characters to the entire franchise, because the videogames and tv shows (Netflix) have different characters stories and characters that do not exist on the books. I'm not agree. Discussing is first before reverting edits. Regards. Miaow 02:40, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
- @Miaow: Well, Witcher series, to me, is not just book, but the entire franchise. But I wouldn't object to trimming it a bit, I agree Yurga is likely irrelevant. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:17, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
Regarding television series, it also has differences with the book, and it would not be appropriate to add the plot of the characters of the series either. This page was supposed created to the books characters, so it should stay like before and not turning into a confusing thing. Miaow 02:57, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
- The intro states that the fictional universe was created by the series of books. Which has since been expanded, including the video games and TV series. Let's ping other editors involved here and see what they think, to gauge consensus for or against the table: User:Ausir, User:Metro3000, User: Satellizer, User:Lacon432, User:Staszek Lem (editors chosen using page history tool).
- Then this page is more confused that I used to believe. It should be like the list of Harry Potter or another series of books with adaptations The Maze Runner (series). It's not mentioned all the adaptations, actors, voice actors, etc in the characters section. This is my last comment. Regards. Miaow 03:40, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
- I hope you don't feel like you've been chased away from this discussion, your input is appreciated. But consider that the anon editor who doesn't even have an account must be quite stressed to see his table removed. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:06, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
- Then this page is more confused that I used to believe. It should be like the list of Harry Potter or another series of books with adaptations The Maze Runner (series). It's not mentioned all the adaptations, actors, voice actors, etc in the characters section. This is my last comment. Regards. Miaow 03:40, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
- The intro states that the fictional universe was created by the series of books. Which has since been expanded, including the video games and TV series. Let's ping other editors involved here and see what they think, to gauge consensus for or against the table: User:Ausir, User:Metro3000, User: Satellizer, User:Lacon432, User:Staszek Lem (editors chosen using page history tool).
- Hello, please avoid falling into editing wars, reach an agreement sooner, there are other options, you can create a list for the cast, for example List of The Witcher cast members or List of The Witcher Universe film and series actors, according to List of Marvel Cinematic Universe film actors. I don't know if there is a franchise for this series, but I think it would be more reasonable. Well this list is for the characters in the book.BradfordTalk 07:05, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
- I am fine with this, I just wanted to save anon's good faith work. Through I am still not convinced the term "The Witcher series" refers to books these days. Few years ago, before Witcher 3 and the TV show, sure, but now a lot of people think of the The Wicher series as either the video games or the TV show. They may very well expect to find this article to discuss all of the franchise. And let's face it, neither the games nor the TV show did introduce many memorable characters, pretty much all major characters are from the books. So the article doesn't need to change much to accommodate the entire franchise. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:05, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
- The appearance of an IP that defends your point of view is very suspicious.BradfordTalk 10:01, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
- Please avoid WP:NPAs. I came here after I saw good faithed edits by an IP being swept away by reverts with no talk page discussion. Per WP:BRD I restored the version I think is better and started the talk page discussion. That the IP editor does not realize there is a talk page discussion he should participate in has nothing to do with me. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:01, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
- The appearance of an IP that defends your point of view is very suspicious.BradfordTalk 10:01, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
- I am fine with this, I just wanted to save anon's good faith work. Through I am still not convinced the term "The Witcher series" refers to books these days. Few years ago, before Witcher 3 and the TV show, sure, but now a lot of people think of the The Wicher series as either the video games or the TV show. They may very well expect to find this article to discuss all of the franchise. And let's face it, neither the games nor the TV show did introduce many memorable characters, pretty much all major characters are from the books. So the article doesn't need to change much to accommodate the entire franchise. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:05, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
- Hello, please avoid falling into editing wars, reach an agreement sooner, there are other options, you can create a list for the cast, for example List of The Witcher cast members or List of The Witcher Universe film and series actors, according to List of Marvel Cinematic Universe film actors. I don't know if there is a franchise for this series, but I think it would be more reasonable. Well this list is for the characters in the book.BradfordTalk 07:05, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
Admin note: I have fully protected the page for two days while you all work this out. The purpose of full protection is to stop edit warring and hopefully to avoid the need to block anyone. Please continue to discuss here, stay cordial and do not insult or accuse each other, and hopefully reach agreement. -- MelanieN (talk) 22:06, 1 April 2020 (UTC) Just to clarify, a series can refer to a book series, a television series, a video game series, but in no case all of them together; for this we use the term franchise (Toy Stoory (franchise)]]. The introduction of this page refers to the book series and the descriptions are taken from the books, so my only reason for participating here is to make sure that this page doesn't become confusing by IPs adding descriptions of the series and video game universes, which have differences to some point. As you insist that this page can be interpreted as covering the whole franchise, the source material and its adaptations, I will make a brief clarification in the character descriptions, indicating that these correspond to the books, so readers can know what they are reading. About the Overview, keep in mind that there is an ongoing series planned to have up to 7 seasons, and as a suggestion there should be a note about Dara's character, since he only exists in the Netflix series universe, because as it is, the reader will not have information about it. Regards. Miaow 11:49, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
- @Piotrus: I think the IP knows what to do in a content dispute, their range was blocked for block evasion. Just for the record. Regards. Miaow 03:28, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
- Given the current arguments, I am not opposed to splitting the table to List of The Witcher cast members or such, as long as it would be clearly linked from this article. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:21, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
- I don't think we need a list just to mention the actors for now, unless we have more information. But the page does need to be more specific, so I've created a section for the cast. Since the books are the source material, they get priority. I added a note in Dara's character. Regards. Miaow 15:09, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
- Given the current arguments, I am not opposed to splitting the table to List of The Witcher cast members or such, as long as it would be clearly linked from this article. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:21, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
Cosplay pictures?
[edit]Are these relevant? 2A02:C7F:E873:B200:BCFD:90B4:511D:A4F8 (talk) 17:33, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
- It does make this page seem very amateurish AaronY (talk) 12:04, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
- This is the consensus on en wiki with which I generally agree, although I think some non-English Wikipedias which don't allow fair use have decided to use them instead (Polish, for example). That said, there are some pretty solid cosplay pictures - but also, what I saw on pl, is that sometimes people use really ablysmally crappy/cringy pictures instead. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 12:52, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
Names of actors in the TV series
[edit]The article gives information about the characters in the book, and for some of them also the names of the actors for these characters in the TV series. But the latter seems unrelated to the content of this article. Maybe it should be removed. 217.235.190.141 (talk) 06:30, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
Sources for articles on Ciri and Yennefer
[edit]- https://www.polygon.com/23780227/witcher-season-3-cast-yennefer-tissaia-bad
- https://www.denofgeek.com/tv/the-witcher-yennefer-and-ciris-relationship-celebrates-an-alternative-version-of-motherhood/
- https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/12/12/the-witcher-anya-chalotra-who-is-yennefer-of-vengerberg
- https://www.ign.com/articles/the-witcher-season-2-yennefer-anya-chalotra-first-look
- https://www.gamespot.com/articles/the-witchers-ciri-might-be-coming-to-fortnite/1100-6515334/
- https://www.themarysue.com/happy-goth-day-to-these-video-game-women-i-am-in-love-with/
- https://www.rpgfan.com/feature/our-favorite-rpg-couples/
- https://www.polygon.com/23808779/witcher-season-3-ciri-book-story-changes-desert-falka
- https://www.ign.com/articles/witcher-4-story-fan-theories-ciri-vesemir
- https://www.gamespot.com/articles/the-witchers-ciri-might-be-coming-to-fortnite/1100-6515334/
- https://www.gamesradar.com/geralts-voice-actor-reckons-ciris-prepped-to-be-the-witcher-4s-leading-star/
- https://www.denofgeek.com/tv/the-witcher-yennefer-and-ciris-relationship-celebrates-an-alternative-version-of-motherhood/
- https://www.ign.com/articles/2014/12/15/the-witcher-3-wild-hunt-will-let-you-play-as-ciri
- https://www.gamesradar.com/witcher-netflix-casting-ciri-yennefer/
- https://www.ign.com/articles/the-witches-season-2-ciri-freya-allan-first-look-netflix
- https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/12/09/netflixs-the-witcher-series-almost-had-ciri-as-the-star
- https://gamingbolt.com/the-witcher-3-ciri-is-the-main-character-geralt-just-the-vessel
- https://www.vice.com/en/article/8x47bx/ciri-deserves-her-own-witcher-game
- https://www.rpgfan.com/feature/fempower-up-48-amazing-women-in-rpgs-part-2/
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