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Problems with some entries in this article

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I'm trying to source the entries in this article, but I've run into problems with some (such as Abdul Hadi al-Iraqi and Sheik Abd-Al-Rahman to name but two). I'm not seeing sources that say they were ISIL (as opposed to Al Qaeda); I'll give a small window of opportunity for others to provide sources, but if they don't appear then those ones that I can't find sources for will likely be removed from the article. Dylanfromthenorth (talk) 20:30, 17 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

As discussed on my talk page, but for the benefit of future editors reading this, the older kills/captures are from when the ISIL group first founded in 1999 operated under other names and especially when they were commonly called al-Qaeda in Iraq (AQI) and a franchise of al-Qaeda core. The whole list was migrated from the main very high activity ISIL article in an effort to pare down that beast of an article. Sources are in the linked articles about each member. Legacypac (talk) 20:03, 18 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Good source

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Found this source [1] highlighting all the senior members of the Islamic State that have been compiled thus far. --Ritsaiph (talk) 04:34, 5 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Better organisational structure

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This leadership section would be allot more clear and concise if they were organised like the Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula senior leaders here [2] or the Taliban leaders here: [3]. --Ritsaiph (talk) 01:25, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 4 March 2015

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The result of the move request was: not moved. No consensus here for the move. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 17:47, 3 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

List of Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant members → List of ISIL members – For similar reasons as per RM proposal at Talk: Killing of captives by the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant. However I don't know if members is the most appropriate description as per at least the first of the following search results in news:

Perhaps "members" is the best bet but I thought I'd present various usage. GregKaye 12:51, 4 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I see you point but many articles make reference to America when the the main article is United States. ISIL is succinct, non-controversial and highly recognisable. GregKaye 12:41, 6 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
It is not without dispute, as you can see from the discussions at the main article itself on what that article should be called. -- 70.51.200.101 (talk) 05:21, 7 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
70.51.200.101 the main dispute in the discussions of the previous RMs largely revolves around whether we can make unqualified reference to "Islamic State" when there are disputes as to whether they can call themselves a state for all Islam when there objection is made to their adherence to Islam and when the group is not a state. GregKaye 09:00, 7 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Both ISIS and ISIL have also come up as options for renaming in the discussions at the main article. Neither were selected either. -- 70.51.200.101 (talk) 13:10, 7 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Khestwol I definitely agree that militants provides a better description for some people in the group. A question remains as to whether we want to include information on, say, the three girls from Bethnal Green England who recently travelled to Syria. We always talked of "members" of the Nazi party but I agree that, in line with the current range of article content, militants is a suitable description. Personally I still don't know what the best wording might be but tend to favour militants. GregKaye 08:54, 7 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong oppose the root article is located at Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant not "ISIL". Also, the group calls itself "Islamic State", not ISIL. In fact the use "ISIL" is US-centric, as it is mostly US-media that use "ISIL", following the designation the U.S. government adopted on 14 May 2014, but non-English media, rather reasonably, do not slavishly follow U.S.-government directives. For example "Islamic State" is the tile of the French Wikipedia (État islamique (organisation)), the German Wikipedia (Islamischer Staat (Organisation)), the Spanish Wikipedia (Estado Islámico (organización terrorista)), the Italian Wikipedia (Stato Islamico), the Portuguese Wikipedia (Estado Islâmico do Iraque e do Levante), and the Russian Wikipedia (Исламское государство). There you have the six top non-Asian world economies. XavierItzm (talk) 15:23, 7 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
This is not the place for arguing about the title of that article. This is the English Encylopaedia, so we go by English sources, not by what foreigners say. We don't tell them what to use, either. RGloucester — ☎ 16:44, 7 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Orphaned references in List of Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant members

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I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of List of Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant members's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "cbsnews.com1":

  • From Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant: "ISIS active in south Afghanistan, officials confirm for first time". 12 January 2015. Retrieved 6 February 2015.
  • From War in Afghanistan (2015–present): "ISIS active in south Afghanistan, officials confirm for first time". 12 January 2015. Retrieved 6 February 2015.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 09:52, 20 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Add Abdul Hasib, who was the ISIS leader in Afghanistan. See this reference. --200.89.248.75 (talk) 19:07, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Add Rahal Abdul or Page Rahal, who is referenced at the page for Rahal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scholar596440 (talk • contribs) 07:41, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Rizieq Shihab and Munarman?

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Is it clear already that Islamic Defenders Front members such as Muhammad Rizieq Shihab and Munarman are member of ISIL? The cases are still in the court and they both so far rejected the allegation, and so the organization. Until there's a clear result on the court and confirmation more on their connection to ISIL, please dont add them to the list. Thank you Nyanardsan (talk) 04:47, 30 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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