Talk:List of Canada–United States border crossings/Archive 1

Archive 1

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Here is a list of the Canadian names of U.S border crossings from StatsCan website. It could be used to expand this site. Unfortuneatly the list does not come with the corresponding American counterparts.

138 items Canada

                Nova Scotia
	 		 Yarmouth, Nova Scotia
		 New Brunswick
	 		 Andover, New Brunswick
	 		 Bloomfield, New Brunswick
	 		 Campobello, New Brunswick
	 		 Centreville, New Brunswick
	 		 Clair, New Brunswick
	 		 Edmundston, New Brunswick
	 		 Forest City, New Brunswick
	 		 Fosterville, New Brunswick
	 		 Gillespie, New Brunswick
	 		 Grand Falls/Grand-Sault, New Brunswick
	 		 Milltown, New Brunswick
	 		 River de Chute, New Brunswick
	 		 St. Andrews, New Brunswick
	 		 St. Croix, New Brunswick
	 		 St. Leonard, New Brunswick
	 		 St. Stephen, New Brunswick
		 Woodstock Road, New Brunswick
		 Quebec
	 		 Abercorn, Quebec
	 		 Armstrong, Quebec
	 		 Beebe, Quebec
	 		 Chartierville, Quebec
	 		 Clarenceville, Quebec
	 		 Covey Hill, Quebec
	 		 Daaquam, Quebec
	 		 Dundee, Quebec
	 		 East Hereford, Quebec
	 		 East Pinnacle, Quebec
	 		 Franklin Centre, Quebec
	 		 Frelighsburg, Quebec
	 		 Glen Sutton, Quebec
	 		 Hemmingford, Quebec
	 		 Herdman, Quebec
	 		 Hereford Road, Quebec
	 		 Highwater, Quebec
	 		 Jamieson's Line, Quebec
	 		 Lac Megantic, Quebec
	 		 Lacolle Route 15, Quebec
	 		 Lacolle Route 221, Quebec
	 		 Lacolle Route 223, Quebec
	 		 Morses Lines, Quebec
	 		 Noyan, Quebec
	 		 Phillipsburg, Quebec
	 		 Pohenegamook, Quebec
	 		 Rock Island Route 55, Quebec
	 		 Rock Island Route 143, Quebec
	 		 St. Pamphile, Quebec
	 		 Ste. Aurelie, Quebec
	 		 Stanhope, Quebec
	 		 Trout River, Quebec
	 		 Woburn, Quebec
		 Ontario
	 		 Cornwall, Ontario
	 		 Fort Erie, Ontario
	 		 Fort Frances, Ontario
	 		 Lansdowne, Ontario
	 		 Niagara Falls Rainbow, Ontario
	 		 Niagara Falls Whirlpool, Ontario
	 		 Niagara Falls Queenston, Ontario
	 		 Pelee Island, Ontario
	 		 Pigeon River, Ontario
	 		 Prescott, Ontario
	 		 Rainy River, Ontario
	 		 Sarnia, Ontario
	 		 Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario
	 		 Sombra, Ontario
	 		 Toronto Seaport/Island Airport, Ontario
	 		 Walpole Island, Ontario
	 		 Windsor Tunnel, Ontario
		 Manitoba
	 		 Boissevain, Manitoba
	 		 Cartwright, Manitoba
	 		 Coulter, Manitoba
	 		 Crystal City, Manitoba
	 		 Emerson East, Manitoba
	 		 Emerson-West Lynne, Manitoba
	 		 Goodlands, Manitoba
	 		 Gretna, Manitoba
	 		 Lena, Manitoba
	 		 Lyleton, Manitoba
	 		 Piney, Manitoba
	 		 Snowflake, Manitoba
	 		 South Junction, Manitoba
	 		 Sprague, Manitoba
	 		 Tolstoi, Manitoba
	 		 Windygates, Manitoba
	 		 Winkler, Manitoba
		 Saskatchewan
	 		 Big Beaver, Saskatchewan
	 		 Carievale, Saskatchewan
	 		 Climax, Saskatchewan
	 		 Coronach, Saskatchewan
	 		 Estevan, Saskatchewan
	 		 Monchy, Saskatchewan
	 		 Northgate, Saskatchewan
	 		 North Portal, Saskatchewan
	 		 Oungre, Saskatchewan
	 		 Regway, Saskatchewan
	 		 Torquay, Saskatchewan
	 		 West Poplar River, Saskatchewan
	 		 Willow Creek, Saskatchewan
		 Alberta
	 		 Aden, Alberta
	 		 Carway, Alberta
	 		 Chief Mountain, Alberta
	 		 Coutts, Alberta
	 		 Del Bonita, Alberta
	 		 Wild Horse, Alberta
		 British Columbia
	 		 Aldergrove, British Columbia
	 		 Boundary Bay, British Columbia
	 		 Carson, British Columbia
	 		 Cascade, British Columbia
	 		 Chopaka, British Columbia
	 		 Douglas, British Columbia
	 		 Huntingdon, British Columbia
	 		 Kingsgate, British Columbia
	 		 Midway, British Columbia
	 		 Nelway, British Columbia
	 		 Osoyoos, British Columbia
	 		 Pacific Highway, British Columbia
	 		 Paterson, British Columbia
	 		 Prince Rupert, British Columbia
	 		 Roosville, British Columbia
	 		 Rykerts, British Columbia
	 		 Sidney, British Columbia
	 		 Stewart, British Columbia
	 		 Victoria, British Columbia
	 		 Waneta, British Columbia
		 Yukon Territory
	 		 Beaver Creek, Yukon Territory
	 		 Dawson/Little Gold, Yukon Territory
	 		 Pleasant Camp, Yukon Territory
	 		 Whitehorse, Yukon Territory

Hope this helps. Sirtrebuchet 04:34, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

A partial list of both the Canadian and American border crossing names can be found here Sirtrebuchet 19:55, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

See also the International Boundary Commission's website. Sirtrebuchet 20:03, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Current or former as well ?

Does this list include former border crossing points that are no longer active as well as current ones? I noticed two places which aren't crossable now but were in the past. Do i remove them from the list? Does a border crosing mean that there is a border station present as well? Thanks Sirtrebuchet 19:39, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

The Emerson–Noyes crossing has been struck through; what is the second one you had in mind? Perhaps a (sub)section for former crossings would be a solution for this; the Point Roberts article mentions a now-closed second border crossing in that community. As for your last question, it is now answered in the introductory paragraph of the Road Crossings section. Mr Death 06:04, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Split this article?

Would it be worthwhile to split off the rail crossings into a separate article, and reserve this one for road/ferry crossings only? Mr Death 05:52, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Move due to bad style concerns

According to the Manual of Style's section about en-dashes,

"All disjunctive en dashes are unspaced, except when there is a space within either or both of the items (the New York – Sydney flight; the New Zealand – South Africa grand final; July 3, 1888 – August 18, 1940, but July–August 1940)."

The title of this article, "List of Canada–United States border crossings", is is in clear violation of this guideline, which is followed by the Naming conventions and which makes perfect sense regarding the good appearance of text anyway. I have thus decided to move the article, as well as several others suffering from the same problem, in this case to "List of Canada – United States border crossings". A redirect shall be created and properly tagged, so that the article will still be searchable and linkable in its previous version, and I will change as many incoming links as possible. Waltham, The Duke of 19:31, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

It appears Ontario-New York crossings are listed under Ontario-Michigan section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Twiebe85 (talk • contribs) 05:12, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Incorrect listing

Ontario-New York crossings are listed under the Ontario-Michigan heading. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Twiebe85 (talk • contribs) 05:13, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

This has since been fixed Wbaron (talk) 02:35, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

subsections and coordinates

Two things I'd do when/if I have the time and there were consensus: Moving the table captions out into subsections so we have a more useful "contents", and adding a column for the coord templates so you can map the locations. Reasonable? B.S. Lawrence (talk) 15:33, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

I see you started adding coordinates, but only got about 80 percent of the way. Can you finish it? Tools I have only give me degrees and minutes, where the standard has seconds and sub-seconds. 173.76.214.163 (talk) 17:13, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Closed Crossings

I expanded the fledgling section on closed crossings. I believe this is a complete list of places where inspections once occurred at the border. There were many other uncontrolled crossings, and there still are a few.

Also, I dressed up the whole page with some photos. I think the page is now technically accurate. --Wbaron01 (talk) 02:49, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Crane Lake/Ely MN crossings

According to my Minnesota state highway map, there are ports of entry at Crane Lake, Minnesota and Ely, Minnesota. Just wondering what the deal is with those. DandyDan2007 (talk) 11:56, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Sorry Dan - It only took 9 months for me to see your question. Crane Lake and Ely are technically seaports because there are no roads crossing at those points. They are inspection stations for boaters, and I believe they are only periodically staffed. There are many others like this throughout the great lakes, Puget sound, and downeast Maine. With the exception of point-to-point commercial ferry ports, seaports are not part of this list because it's difficult to decide where to draw the line as qualifying as a port of entry from Canada. The great lakes ports are good candidates, Maine seaports are questionable, and midatlantic seaports are not good. My thought is that seaports should be listed in a separate article because there is no assurance that arriving vessels are coming from the nearest country. Wbaron (talk) 23:35, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

Toc?

A problem with the article is being able to easily access or reference subsections. Can't do it. I wanted to be able to ref, rather than repeat the list for a state in another article, but can't get to it. No subsections. Student7 (talk) 01:35, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Good point - I refined the structure and added a TOC. Wbaron (talk) 02:35, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Port of Entry names

I have removed references listed with some port of entry names for local municipalities (in parentheses) nearby the ports of entry. This is because it was confusing as to what the actual name of the port of entry is (according to CBP and CBSA). I am tempted to add a full address section, then list the local town there, but for now have decided not to because I think that will clutter up the page with information most people will not find useful. Wbaron (talk) 02:35, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Once again, the Port of Entry name is not necessarily the name of the municipality where the border crossing is located. It is the name used by the border inspection agencies to identify the port or station.Wbaron (talk) 18:41, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Where the official Port of Entry name is different from its community, I would like to bracket the [community] name. The official Canadian port names are quite clear on their website; the U.S. less so. SofDetrHerg (talk) 09:16, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

Unilateral Removal of graphic content

Someone has wandered onto this article and removed all of the highway shields and example images. One would think that person would leave a note here explaining the rationale for doing this. The changes could not be easily undone (undo only replaced a few shields), and I am reluctant to spend the time it takes to repair the damage. Wbaron (talk) 00:48, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Thank you Backguy for replacing most of the highway shields.Wbaron (talk) 16:18, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Sadly, Fredddie didn't like your hard work, and decided to remove the shields (again). 173.76.214.163 (talk) 03:29, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

And I don't think they're necessary either. The graphics attract undue attention, and it causes some graphic maintenance issues as not all of the highway markers for Canada have been created. On articles like List of Interstate Highways in Michigan, WP:USRD has decided that only the subject of each line should receive a highway marker graphic, not the intersecting roadways at the termini. The reason is to keep the focus on the subject of each line, and in the case of this list, the subject is not the highways at all. Imzadi 1979 → 22:27, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Alburgh VT border crossing

Much thanks to the person who added information about the border crossings on the Alburgh peninsula. However, I don't think either the US or Canada ever had an inspection station at any location other than where they are currently located, so I have removed this item from this page. It is just one of many roads that once were legal placed to cross the border, but you had to travel some additional distance to report for inspection.

Now, it does raise the question of whether or not we should add a section that lists unattended roads that crossed the border. These would include many vermont roads, some in Eastern Maine, and those in the Akwesasne / St. Regis area, among others. Anyone think we should try to take this on? Wbaron (talk) 17:41, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Gilbert Rd/Route de Bellechasse crossing (QC-ME)

On Google Maps, there is a road visible which crosses the Maine-Quebec border from the Canadian Route de Bellechasse to the American Gilbert Rd. Is this a border crossing? I'm unsure whether this should list be on the article proper. |Mangowallaby (talk) 2:55, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

Good catch! There is a bridge there! I have added it to the Unstaffed Border Crossings list.Wbaron (talk) 16:31, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

Google Maps, Google Earth, ArcGIS and the Government of Quebec maps all show that there is no bridge at this location. This entry should be deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rufusbear (talk • contribs) 14:37, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

Unstaffed crossings

I added the Akwesasne crossings (QC-NY). Perhaps the list should include unstaffed crossings only where those without special approvals can cross, such as there and Hyder AK. And what about Angle Inlet MN which is "staffed" remotely? SofDetrHerg (talk) 09:36, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

• I think it should include all crossings as the article indicates.Hogie75 10:24, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

OK if they're legal. But instead of all crossings, I'd rather list only those which connected to roads in both countries. It would be only marginally useful (and cluttering) to list all the roads that run to and along the border only to return to the same country (or dead-end) without making any further connections to the other country. Also there are dozens of individual properties with driveways onto roads in the other country; these shouldn't be listed here. SofDetrHerg (talk) 01:32, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

Specifically, the unstaffed - but legal and open, not closed - Stanhope QC (Rue Principale) - Norton VT (Nelson Rd) should be included in the open crossings (not closed) for southbound only (which is legal). I'll take Wbaron's word that northbound is prohibited now. Also, Coutts AB (several rural roads) - Sweetgrass MT (Border Rd) appears to be open in both directions according to Google Street View. If the situation has changed since August 2009 when the views were taken then maybe it shouldn't be listed at all.SofDetrHerg (talk) 23:18, 18 August 2014 (UTC) For the unstaffed Stanhope QC - Nelson VT crossing, Wbaron has changed the description saying open both directions, so I'm removing the Closed Road Crossings entry for this location. SofDetrHerg (talk) 06:25, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

There is a legal unstaffed road crossing in the Skagit River valley BC/WA. It's purpose is to access Hozomeen/Ross Lake in North Cascades National Park. 60 km of Canadian gravel, no road connection to balance of the US road system.Legacypac (talk) 07:37, 23 September 2014 (UTC) Thanks; added. SofDetrHerg (talk) 06:05, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

I like the thought all of you have put into this, and I agree a better way of organizing these crossings is needed. The first section was born with the intention of providing a list of ports of entry. I've decided to retitle it as such (even though CBP has a different definition of what this is; they consider a port of entry to be a region with many crossings). However, I think the term adds clarity to what the list is trying to accomplish. A few (such as Four Falls) are one-way, so I will mark these more clearly using highlights.

So what to do with unstaffed legal crossings? In most cases, they are not really legal (you are still expected to report for inspection) but there are exceptions such as Akwesasne crossings. These all present unusual cases, so I decided to create a separate list dedicated to them. For now I decided to stop short of also listing unattended roads that once crossed the border but no longer do. There are many of these, especially in the northeast, so I didn't want to go there. I'm open to more suggestions if you don't like how the changes look.Wbaron (talk) 21:29, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

I found another border crossing that I believe to be unstaffed at 48.999714, -116.828008 in Idaho. And another one in Montana at 49.001117, -114.478461. Does anyone know anymore about these or can find any more information on them? Google Maps allows directions across the borders, and it seems to connect to both Canada and USA road networks. Danielhep (talk) 01:15, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

I believe the one in Idaho is a barracaded road, but it would be worth a trip out there to check it out and confirm. The one in Montana is a former border crossing (closed in 1996) and is listed in the Closed Land Ports of Entry as Flathead-Trailcreek. Wbaron (talk) 16:41, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

Also Township Rd 10A in Coutts in Alberts at 48.9976427,-111.7789287 has a sign facing east: "Warning United States Boundary Persons Entering Must Report to US Immigration-Customs". It looks legal to enter if proceeding to Sweetgrass–Coutts Border Crossing to validate the US entry.--Jusjih (talk) 21:18, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

This area just east of the crossing has long been a problem, and it keeps border patrol busy. I advise not crossing here unless you are prepared for a lengthy interrogation and background check. The Canadians are a little more easy going, but both sides want crossers to immediately report to the border station, so if you were hoping to save time, think again. Since everyone crossing here is required to report to the border station, I haven't added these roads to the legal unstaffed border crossing list, but I can understand why someone might wish to add them.Wbaron (talk) 16:46, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

UPDATE, land crossings to close March 20, 2020

Canada-U.S. border closure amid coronavirus likely to start Friday night https://globalnews.ca/news/6701112/coronavirus-canada-us-canada-border/?fbclid=IwAR1BsZHfilI3Ab3EZoAIK0NC0QAUJCt2kHSyc4lp_V4PBe2qi2LGi2xbfXY

Freight will continue to cross; essential travel will still be allowed, e.g. Canadians going home. Peter K Burian (talk) 16:23, 19 March 2020 (UTC)