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I don't think clach-ultaich will ever be more than a tiny stub. I guess I moved it there too quickly some time ago. I'd like to propose merging it back into Lifting stones, perhaps with geographical sections on Iceland, Scotland etc? Akerbeltz (talk) 21:12, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ok merged. Akerbeltz (talk) 12:28, 15 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know if the Ardblair Stones are related to Ardblair Castle, but here is a video - maybe a backtrace can reveal a useful link to include an external link. TGCP (talk) 22:24, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Distance from Reykjavík to Húsafell

@Ehrenkater Hello, with refer to the distance, here is the google maps result: 1 hr 57 min (133.0 km) via Þjóðvegur (https://www.google.com/search?q=reykjavik+to+husafell&oq=Reykjav%C3%ADk+to+husaf&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0i22i30.6777j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8) I also have a friend who drove from Reykjavik Airport (RKV) to the location of the stone pen and his distance was also a very close 132 km. That's why I mentioned that. Could you please evaluate and remove the citation required command? Thanks for the support. Nir007H (talk) 15:37, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Nir007H. I've looked at the Google Maps result that you linked. The main reason for the different figures is that your figure is the distance by road, rather than as the crow flies. Distances quoted are usually the direct distance, and any different basis would need to be qualified in the article. Incidentally, I'm a little surprised that your friend flew to RKV rather than to the main international airport KEF. Thanks. Ehrenkater (talk) 17:09, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Ehrenkater so isn't it better to mention the road distance rather than the linear displacement since the first is more useful for a traveler? When you check for the distance what do you usually check: the distance or displacement? My friend is from Iceland and he lives walking distance away from the RKV. Thanks for the support to remove the citation required command. Nir007H (talk) 22:38, 29 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Also why do you think I used the IATA code? I know that KEF is 51 km away from Reykjavík and what we need here is the distance from Reykjavík to Húsafell, not Keflavik to Húsafell. Thanks. Nir007H (talk) 22:54, 29 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Nir007H. As I said, distances quoted here are usually as the crow flies. If any user feels that it is useful to state the distance by road, then of course they can do so, provided they explain what they have done, to avoid confusing the reader. It is all about clarity.

I don't doubt that you know the difference between KEF and RKV. As it happens, when I visited Iceland I stayed for a couple of nights in HÍ accommodation on Suðurgata, so I know where RKV is too. :)

All the best. Ehrenkater (talk) 06:39, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Take care and all the best. Nir007H (talk) 19:54, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merge of Lundstrom Stones into Lifting stone

Lundstrom Stones was previously merged to Lifting stone#Lundstrom Stones. The Lundstrom Stones lack significant coverage in reliable sources. I propose restoring the previous merge. voorts (talk/contributions) 21:53, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dear @Voorts, Kindly requesting an extended grace period to develop Lundstrom Stones further. The organizations who own the historical stone https://www.instagram.com/newenglandstonelifting/?hl=en and https://www.instagram.com/fort4fest/?hl=en will be putting up more events and more global exposure will follow. Nir007H (talk) 00:17, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This discussion will be open for at least 7 days, but likely longer. The goal is to have other editors comment here as well to try and determine the Stones's notability. voorts (talk/contributions) 00:19, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Notified: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Sports. voorts (talk/contributions) 21:33, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Nir007H: I still think the article doesn't meet WP:GNG. How do you feel about merging? voorts (talk/contributions) 00:36, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Voorts I do believe the content in the specific article is too much for it to appear under the main article, without disrupting the main articles' allocated priority for each stone. Could you grant me something like until next summer? More competitions and exposure are coming up and I'm determined to develop both Lundstrom Stones and Ardblair Stones further. Many thanks for your continuous support. Nir007H (talk) 00:46, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Nir007H: I still do not believe that these stones are notable, nor do I believe that they will become notable. The sourcing you've provided is not adequate to show notability. Out of the 14 sources, 5 are YouTube videos (including to establish records), 1 is to Instagram, 1 is a blog, 1 is to Flickr, 1 is to the festival where the stones are used, 1 is to a website that is self-published. The only reliable source I have access to doesn't even mention the Lundstrom stones. voorts (talk/contributions) 21:31, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Generally, the process on Wikipedia is to merge information when a topic isn't notable, keep the redirect, and wait for the topic to become notable before creating a new article. The process is usually not to keep a non-notable, unsutiably referenced article in mainspace for several months. voorts (talk/contributions) 21:33, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good day @Voorts, Noted that since the day I referenced it, www.unionleader.com is now asking for a subscription to view the article and only the first two para's are freely visible. I can vouch that in the middle of the article, the stones were well mentioned. I was confident to add the edit remark "Since unionleader.com source supersedes the actual footage of the WR from YouTube (reference wise), decided to remove the 'rs' remark" on 3rd September, because the full article back then was freely visible to me and the stones were well mentioned in it. As someone who actively contributed to Strongman, and strength & physical culture domain for the past two and a half years and with my knowledge on the current affairs of the sport of strongman, I strongly believe the stones are notable enough to deserve its own article and there's too much of info just for a subsection in the Lifting stone, disrupting the hierarchy of the stones. In the meantime, could you explain why do you think Ardblair Stones is notable enough (with an unchallenged separate article) and Lundstrom Stones aren't? Shall we add a 'notability' tag and give it some time? While appreciating your concerns, shall we wait for the opinion of other Wikipedians as you suggested in the beginning specially those who are well versed with Strongman and stone lifting? With kind regards, Nir007H (talk) 06:22, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Quoting the description under the image:

JOHN KOZIOL/Union Leader Correspondent

Hafthor Björnsson, an Icelandic strongman and actor who portrays “The Mountain” in the HBO series “Game of Thrones,” participates in the Loon Stone Carry on Sunday during the 40th annual New Hampshire Highland Games and Festival at Loon Mountain. He carried the stones, which weigh a combined 508 pounds, a record-setting distance of 140 feet, 10 inches. Nir007H (talk) 06:37, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]