Talk:Laos at the 2012 Summer Olympics

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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that runners training to represent Laos at the 2012 Summer Olympics used barbell weights made from concrete, tires, and paint cans?

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GA Review

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Reviewer: MWright96 (talk · contribs) 15:52, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Will take this review MWright96 (talk) 15:52, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall:
Pass/Fail:

Lead

Avoid bolding wikilinks per MOS:BOLDLINK
- Y and question: That was already there before I expanded. Didn't know that was a thing. Since the first sentence breaks up the article title, does removing the bold/wikilinks work for MOS:TITLEABSENTBOLD? --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 18:25, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  - Removing the bold works for MOS:TITLEABSENTBOLD MWright96 (talk) 18:49, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"when the event took part from 27 July – 12 August 2012." - can be either the event occurred from 27 July to 12 August 2012. or the eventh took place from 27 July to 12 August 2012.
- Y Went with the second option. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 18:25, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"This was the nation's eighth consecutive Olympiad since 1980," - shouldn't that be eighth appearance overall and not consecutive since they did not participate in the 1984 Games?
- Y I think I meant seventh consecutive after not appearing in 1984. Reworded and added debut as well. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 18:25, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Wikilink flag bearer
- Y and question: Done. Is it one word, two or with a dash? Google gives me different results --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 18:36, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  - It depends MWright96 (talk) 18:49, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Wikilink the word opening to 2012 Summer Olympics opening ceremony and the word closing to 2012 Summer Olympics closing ceremony
- Y Did. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 18:36, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"while swimmer Phathana Inthavong did not reach farther than the 50 m freestyle heats." - Wikilink the text in bold to the relevant article
- Y done --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 18:36, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"Inthavong placed the highest for Laos in 2012 with a 56th finish." - think there is a missing word between "56th" and "finish"
- Y Though I did say "placed" earlier in the sentence, I reworded it to make it sound better :) --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 18:36, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Background

Perphaps mention the 1984 Summer Olympics were in Los Angeles?
- question - If i do, what about the 1980 Summer Olympics? Would if flow properly if I add the city for one and not the other? Or should both cities be mentioned? --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:05, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Mention the 2012 Summer Olympics took place in London in the first paragraph
- Y --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:05, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"the Laotian runners used concrete barbell weights made from paint cans and tires." - tyres
- question - Not 100% about this one. I'm seeing results for tire and tyre. I know tyre is for British English ones like UK/Canada. Not sure if this in the case cause they were training in Laos. The source is also Singaporean as well. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:05, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"For the 2012 Olympics, Kilakone Siphonexay and Laenly Phoutthavong represented the country in athletics while Phathana Inthavong competed in swimming." - consider linking the sports of the participants
- comment In my opinion, I think that'd be overlinking as they're common words. If you feel it's needed, let me know. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:05, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Wikilink flag bearer
- Y and comment - similar question into the spelling of flagbearer per lead. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:05, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
As in the lead, wikilink the word opening to 2012 Summer Olympics opening ceremony and the word closing to 2012 Summer Olympics closing ceremony in the second paragraph
- Y --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:05, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Athletics

Wikilink personal best to the relevant article for the uninitated
- Y --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:24, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"Siphonexay was one second slower than the B standard qualifying time" - maybe write out the B standard qualifying time
- comment Would it be redundant per WP:CALC? I'd clarify that it was exactly one second slower. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:24, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Wikilink men's 100 m to Athletics at the 2012 Summer Olympics – Men's 100 metres in the prose
- Y --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:24, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"Based on his placing and time during the heats, Siphonexay did not advance to the next round." - State the reason why he did not qualify for the next round
- comment That one and Phoutthavong I was having trouble wording it. I'll come back to those after. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:24, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Wikilink women's 100 m to Athletics at the 2012 Summer Olympics – Women's 100 metres in the prose
- Y --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:24, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"With her placing and a time of 13.15 seconds, Phoutthavong did not qualify for the first round." - Explain why she did not make it through to the next round
- comment same as Siphonexay --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:24, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Both the tables could do with referencing for extra verification
- Y Thought it'd be redundant citing, but I did it as I saw Brunei at the 2012 Summer Olympics also cited the tables. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 20:10, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Key

Delete the statements that are not used in any of the tables
- Y I originally left it as it was already there. However, now deleted as none of it was used. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:26, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Swimming

Wikilink men's 50 m freestyle to Swimming at the 2012 Summer Olympics – Men's 50 metre freestyle in the prose
- Y --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:33, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"His entry time of 28.94 seconds was 6.06 seconds slower than the invitational time for the Olympics." - maybe state the Olympic invitational time for the swimming event
- comment Similarly, I'm not sure if it'd be redundant to mention the exact time. 22.88 was the invitational time, which is 6.06 second faster than Inthavong's time.
"slower than the invitational time for the Olympics.[24][23]" - refs in numerical order please
- Y I cite them in the order of the sentence they are used in. In this case, it's in the wrong order. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:32, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"As Inthavong did not have one of the top 16 times during the heats, Inthavong did not qualify for the semifinals." - repetition of "Inthavong"
- Y Nice catch! --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:32, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The results table might be better with references included for extra verification
- comment Tweaked table as it's the heat finish placing, not overall. Also added heat time in the prose as I missed it. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:35, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  - Y cited the table. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 20:10, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References

The dashes in some of the references need to be replaced by en dashes (–) per MOS:DASH
- Y --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:38, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Will put the review on hold to allow the nominator to address or query the points raised above. MWright96 (talk) 17:47, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@MWright96: Most I did, but I have some questions. Depending on when you reply, I might be away in the next hour or so as I have to go out. If that's the case, I'll reply as soon as I can. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:41, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@MWright96: Pinging again in case you didn't see my comments above. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:53, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@MrLinkinPark333:} Now promoting to GA class MWright96 (talk) 20:59, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@MWright96: LOL i was editing the Athletics section to explain better why they didn't qualify. Thank you! Could you check it over since I'm looking to DYK it? --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 21:05, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@MrLinkinPark333: I will go over the article tomorrow MWright96 (talk) 21:09, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Hawkeye7 (talk) 18:47, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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... that runners training for Laos at the 2012 Summer Olympics used barbell weights made from concrete, tires, and paint cans? Source: Yahoo news Singapore
- ALT1:... that runners training for Laos at the 2012 Summer Olympics used concrete barbell weights made from tires, paint cans and scaffolding? Source: Same as main hook
- ALT2:... that runners training for Laos at the 2012 Summer Olympics used tires and paint cans both full of concrete as barbell weights? Source: Same as main hook
- ALT3:... that runners training for Laos at the 2012 Summer Olympics used barbell weights made from concrete, tires, paint cans and scaffolding? Source: Same as main hook

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Prem Nazir
Comment: Not 100% if tires should be changed to tyres per Lao / Singaporean spelling. If it does, please let me know. :)

Improved to Good Article status by MrLinkinPark333 (talk). Self-nominated at 20:14, 15 February 2021 (UTC).[reply]

MrLinkinPark333: Article has passed GA, hook is verified. Article is long enough, reasonably well written and referenced (to reliable sources), neutral. Hook is interesting, and I think either tires or tyres is fine. No copyvio. I wonder if it should be phrased as "runners training to represent Laos at the 2012 Summer Olympics"? Either way, good to go. Nice work.Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 16:35, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]