Talk:Kingdom Hearts III/Archive 1
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Info wanted
I just was wondering what happened to that Kingdom Heart III page that had been here. It was a included a list of worlds. I was wondering if that was just a theory.
somebody who's this just another user: "I guess that if maybe the details are short. I find rumors and theories spreading around the world, of those gamers and fans. The trailer is supposely seen in the videogame Kingdom Heart II, but no information was announced nor heard. I have tried to connect this article, but the page was said it is deleted. I thought there are too many works... making it hard for them taking a long time to complete through. I wonder if somebody had deleted this for its information was either down as if it's so short. Or something. There are only few words in the trailer, but we the people have not expressed in how the new details would soon be the meaning. Theories... someone is researching. Rumors... someone is thinking. But for me, I don't know! Where was the page before? I've only heard of Kingdom Hearts III since last year in November/December. Oh yup, the other person here was right. My thoughts exactly--
- Well, there are articles saying its in production. Said article. Roxanne Edits 01:55, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
When I read your comment my brain fazed out... But I think i got the jist. Let me say that most of the page for Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows is theroys.69.161.101.224 03:40, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Rumor vs Rumour
I noticed an IP changed the heading from Rumours and speculation to Rumors and speculation. Not knowing if I should revert I did a search and got five instances of 'rumour' and four of 'rumor', however one 'rumor' is in the Contents box due to the heading, and one in a reference. This suggests that in-article 'rumour' is favoured (or favored), so I've changed all to that for now (aside the reference for accuracy). I don't have a preference either way, I just wanted it consistant. BulbaThor (talk) 09:31, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
- It's a spelling difference between American English and British English. Just like Airplane/Aeroplane, Color/Colour, etc. Blake (Talk·Edits) 12:20, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
Existence
Umm, should this page even exist? I mean, there's nothing on it but rumours and speculation, which, as far back as I can remember, were not allowed on Wikipedia, unless the rules were changed suddenly. It even starts with unknown claims (like the platform and release date). I think this should just be redirected to Kingdom Hearts. I'm putting up a vote, and I'm against this page. 79.153.144.186 (talk) 09:57, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- Even if it is never made, it is still notable, because it has received significant coverage in third party reliable sources. Plus, there is more then just "rumors and speculation". The whole first paragraph of the history section is official statements. Then there is a whole paragraph on reaction of the making of this game. Blake (Talk·Edits) 14:04, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- Um, even though it has reliable sources, there's not enough material to deem it a separate article yet. These tidbits can be added to the main series page for Kingdom Hearts and even a sequel section for the Kingdom Hearts II article. This article should not exist yet. ♫ Douglasr007 (talk) 03:53, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
- The article is not much smaller than Chrono Break, a certified good article. It cannot even reasonably be argued that it does not fulfill the notability criteria - it has several references asserting not only its existence, but its sheer popularity as well. Considering the upcoming release of a video game that is directly linked to this game, news will obviously be on its way. But again, all of this is irrelevant due to the fact that size is not an aspect of determining notability. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 05:05, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
- As much as I play Kingdom Hearts, no official announcement has bee made only mentions in interviews, so this page shouldn't even excistRxlthunder (talk) 14:04, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- Things don't even have to exist to have articles. As long as there is coverage, it's fine. Its like those movies that get announced, and then fail in production, and are made again like 5 years later. An article with the history of what happened is useful to readers. Blake (Talk·Edits) 14:09, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- As much as I play Kingdom Hearts, no official announcement has bee made only mentions in interviews, so this page shouldn't even excistRxlthunder (talk) 14:04, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
- The article is not much smaller than Chrono Break, a certified good article. It cannot even reasonably be argued that it does not fulfill the notability criteria - it has several references asserting not only its existence, but its sheer popularity as well. Considering the upcoming release of a video game that is directly linked to this game, news will obviously be on its way. But again, all of this is irrelevant due to the fact that size is not an aspect of determining notability. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 05:05, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
- Um, even though it has reliable sources, there's not enough material to deem it a separate article yet. These tidbits can be added to the main series page for Kingdom Hearts and even a sequel section for the Kingdom Hearts II article. This article should not exist yet. ♫ Douglasr007 (talk) 03:53, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
I agree, this page should be removed! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.184.50.157 (talk) 01:36, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
- Why? - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 04:46, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
- It's the apocalypse. Even anons know that Wikipedia isn't a WP:CRYSTALBALL! :) Axem Titanium (talk) 05:27, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
- WP:CRYSTAL says that "Wikipedia is not a collection of unverifiable speculation." This is verified speculation. Plus, two whole other thirds of the article that have nothing to do with speculation. History and Reaction. Blake (Talk·Edits) 13:33, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
- It's the apocalypse. Even anons know that Wikipedia isn't a WP:CRYSTALBALL! :) Axem Titanium (talk) 05:27, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
Because it's not going to be released for a long while, and this isn't a site of speculation! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.184.50.157 (talk) 23:29, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
- Aren't you actually the user putting speculation in the article?Tintor2 (talk) 23:32, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
That isn't speculation, it's bound to happen, as Disney Owns Power Rangers rights! and if so, Marvel would be a speculation too! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.184.50.157 (talk) 02:00, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
- Speculation is educated guesses. So yes, what you are doing is speculation. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 10:18, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
Well, If so, then so are you! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.167.232.88 (talk) 21:51, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
- How? At no point have I personally speculated on Kingdom Hearts III in the article. Being a reliable source, sites such as IGN can have their speculation used. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 22:02, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
You say that Marvel Characters might appear, and that the world will end in 2012, That is Definatelly Speculation! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.167.232.88 (talk) 02:15, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
- You are strangely misreading everything we are saying. We never said that Marvel characters might appear. A reliable source commenting on the subject said it. Just because we write what they speculate does not make it our speculation. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 02:18, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
Well they are speculation, and wikipedia does not put in Speculation! Unless it allows all of Them to be in IT! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.167.232.88 (talk) 05:21, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
- Yes it does. I do not see why it is this hard for you to understand that speculation from reliable sources is allowed while speculation from Wikipedia users is not. The reason speculation from users is not allowed is because if one user can speculate on content, all users can. The reason why speculation from reliable sources is used is because the people speculating are an expert in the field that they are speculating on. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 05:29, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
It's Not a speculation just from users, it's from many people, even people on youtube say It! And Power Rangers, just like Marvel is Disney so it's bound to happen! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.167.232.88 (talk) 02:04, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
- Stop adding this content. It is wrong, and unsourced. It is speculation by random people. This is not allowed. Everything in Wikipedia articles should be able to be sourced to a reliable source. Original research is not allowed. If we included every silly thing everybody says, this article would be 5 miles long. Blake (Talk·Edits) 02:11, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
- Any "general person" is not a reliable source. There is no attribution to their comments, and no way to say that this speculation is based on anything, whereas speculation from IGN can be attributed to reliable people who are experts in their field. The point is that if it's not coming from a reliable source, it's not to be included. We do not allow just "any" speculation. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 02:15, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
It is not wrong, and it will happen, I know it!! Fine, i'll find a source and show you! Really! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.167.232.88 (talk) 03:00, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
Power Rangers is owned by Saban Brands, not Disney. Disney sold it back to Saban last year. Now please stop adding Power Rangers to Disney articles. [1] 124.171.206.147 (talk) 23:27, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
No, But Disney will buy it, and everything back! Really! They told me in C2E2, And Power Rangers does belong there, In Disney articles and everything! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.167.232.88 (talk) 08:21, 1 May 2011 (UTC) Really! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.167.232.88 (talk) 08:26, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
- Yeah, like your "imaginary friend at Disney" is a reliable source for things. Until you can find a proper source saying otherwise, things here stays as is. Any attempts to say otherwise without a reliable source will be considered trolling and/or vandalism. Sb617 (Talk) 08:43, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
It's Not Imaginary! They did talk to me at The Convention! But If you want a source, then fine i'll find one! And Kingdom Hearts isn't coming out for a long time just to let you know! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.167.232.88 (talk) 08:55, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
This page should be removed because its very existence is going to lead people to believe that such a project exists. A proper article title would be, "Speculation on Continuation of the Kingdom Hearts Franchise", or melded into a larger article titled, "Unconfirmed SquareEnix Games". I don't think either of those two articles should exist either, but they would be a lot more factual than listing the existence of something that the company in question declines to comment on.HotLimit1 (talk) 17:09, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
- A third Kingdom Hearts is in the lineup. It just isn't confirmed to be being developed yet. We aren't lieing. Blake (Talk·Edits) 22:56, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Who knows? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.167.232.88 (talk) 04:00, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
it's more than likely to be made since dream drop distance is being created and thats why they are not in the procces and are probably keep hush hush over time.i have witnessed it in many cases of movies and video games.trust me--Pokemon30 (talk) 00:36, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
Keep. http://uk.games.ign.com/articles/118/1181920p1.html practically confirms that the game will be made, by revealing that it will be the last game Xehanort is in. Ajkseqawhj (talk) 22:25, 20 September 2011 (UTC) Dream drop distance is coming so is kingdom hearts III we just don't know when. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.49.170.38 (talk) 21:50, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
This page should be updated by now. KH 3D and Birth by Sleep came out some time ago. Is there any new news? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.255.64.114 (talk) 20:25, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
Keep. Yes, the game hasn't been released yet and there hasn't been much change to it, but 3D did just come out, so it's obvious where Square's attention has been focused. Also, this article does have several third party, verifiable sources (which is more than can be said for some more "legitimate" pages). As for not knowing if the game will exist, that has been confirmed (and in the article, no less!), it's just taking some time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.144.1.8 (talk) 12:59, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
Expectations?
It all seems like baseless speculation by one guy, as well as his criticism of the series' output in general. If no one has a reason why it should stay, I'm going to remove it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.70.81.152 (talk) 05:04, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
It isn't baseless expectation. It's a real thing that is happening. As a lot of the arguments on the talk page say, there are a lot of official statements included about the upcoming game. At the very least, there will almost certainly be solid news and evidence coming after the release of final fantasy versus XIII. 124.188.80.54 (talk) 16:07, 31 July 2012 (UTC)TheBoredGnome
About Riku
In KH:III will they include Riku as a playable ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.138.158.23 (talk) 06:54, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
Someone fix this?
"Once Kingdom Hearts 3D was released, Nomura was asked whether the last credits' image resembling a roman numeral III as well as the secret message directly written in English stating "The past will be reawakened as a new number In never-before seen detail Prepare yourself for the awakening of the next number". Nomura refrained from answering such questions, leaving it to people's imaginations."
I was reading this, in the history section at the bottom. And I couldn't help but notice that there is no question. This really bothers me. However I didnt put it there and i don't know what the story was. So if anyone could please be bothered, because I'm too lazy.
124.188.80.54 (talk) 16:05, 31 July 2012 (UTC)TheBoredGnome
Done, thanks. SG2090 15:41, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
Plot section
Why does a plot section keep appearing? The game has not been confirmed as even being in development yet, so how can we possibly have any idea as to what the plot of the game is? Incidentally, while we're on the subject, the source that's used in the section that keeps popping up isn't exactly in line with what's written: the source says "it's expected to end the Xehanort Saga" while every time the the Plot section shows up, it says "It will end the Xehanort Saga". That original quote, and the source it comes from, surely belong in the Rumours and Speculation section. ggctuk (2005) (talk) 17:41, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
- The only comment from the plot by Nomura was done like six years ago and he only mentioned something about a final battle against Xehanort although he those were only ideas. Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance#Development makes similar hints about it but the director's statements have been rather vague. Still, just the fact that KHIII will or would end the Xehanort Saga is not enough to write a plot section. We will have to wait until official announcements from the game to add this kind of section.Tintor2 (talk) 23:17, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
- That's exactly what I thought, but for some reason a plot section keeps getting added in. ggctuk (2005) (talk) 20:17, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
I have seen some images that lead me to believe this movie might be in it. Though I guess they could be fake, but they look very realistic. KH3.net links to Riku with Quasimodo and Esmerelda for example. Course this is from September 2011, wi with a year and 4-5 months having passed this could've changed. Ranze (talk) 05:39, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
- I don't know what rock you live under, but that is from Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance. If you haven't played that, and have interest in the series(or at least the plot), get it. It is completely worth playing gameplay wise, and answers lots of questions about plot and brings up new ones. KH3D takes place between KH2 and KH3, so it brings the plot to the place it needs to be before KH3 happens. Blake (Talk·Edits) 15:24, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
This game has not been announced
So I think this article has to be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.228.104.210 (talk) 14:05, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
This has been discussed before, four times now. SG2090 18:36, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
Xbox One source please.
I had to delete the Xbox One ports due to broken links and unreliable info. please add it back when, and only when, Square Enix announces that KH3 is also releasing on Xbox One. Emigdioofmiami (talk) 21:31, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
- I hard reverted to a stable version, with the confirmation. Here it is again. [2] - Favre1fan93 (talk) 22:19, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
Thank you. Emigdioofmiami (talk) 23:25, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
Condensing
Now that it has been announced, would it be possible to condense the "Rumors and speculation" and "Expectations" sections, into one section? I'm trying to think of a good overarching name, but I can't at the moment. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 04:39, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
- A lot of the information will have to be removed since they're not notable. It's going to become a development section like Kingdom Hearts II, if a good editor picks it up. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 04:46, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
- Yeah, Development was what I was trying to think of! The shock from it being announced didn't really help my thinking about this. But that all sounds good DragonZero. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 13:12, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
- Rumors and expectations need to be removed, I haven't read through it but most of it shouldn't be notable. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 00:47, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
- Okay. I thought so as well. But I thought I'd suggest condensing before completely removing. Should we wait for any other comments? - Favre1fan93 (talk) 01:29, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
- No. Most things don't need consensus. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 03:03, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
- Just wanted to make sure. Will remove both sections. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 03:11, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
- No. Most things don't need consensus. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 03:03, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
- Okay. I thought so as well. But I thought I'd suggest condensing before completely removing. Should we wait for any other comments? - Favre1fan93 (talk) 01:29, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
- Rumors and expectations need to be removed, I haven't read through it but most of it shouldn't be notable. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 00:47, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
- Yeah, Development was what I was trying to think of! The shock from it being announced didn't really help my thinking about this. But that all sounds good DragonZero. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 13:12, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
european release date set to december 31 2014
my source is komplett.no it also lists namco as publisher.84.208.59.120 (talk) 22:04, 25 June 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.208.59.120 (talk) 22:02, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
- Yeah, no that's not a reliable source. And anyways, that's just a placeholder date. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 22:22, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
NEW release info.
Hello guys and gals :) I recently done some research about the games released and I was wondering if we could add something with any of my research?
Original media speculations expected that Kingdom Hearts III will be released in March 2014 [3]. But not long after it was announced that the game will be pushed back until 2015 [4] as it wasn't include inside Nomura's 2014 releases and was stated it would have been released on [5] (DON'T KNOW IF THAT's TRUE).
Then in January 2014, pre-order's of the game, both for Playstation 4 and X-Box One platforms were made available in the United Kingdom and stated it will be released in 2014 [6] [7]
So will any of that work and be able to feature in the article or not??
- First, those don't sound reliable and we don't use speculation. Second, those are placeholder dates. Third, if a release date or any official announcement was made, it would spread like wildfire. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 05:57, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
Gamescom 2015
Gamescom 2015 will be held 5-9 August. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.19.34.3 (talk) 19:32, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
- ....and? - Favre1fan93 (talk) 22:52, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 30 August 2015
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Amend the following sentence under "Setting":
Most of the worlds featured in the game based on Disney properties are new to the series, such as the Tangled-themed Kingdom of Corona and one based on Big Hero 6, though returning worlds appear, such as the Hercules-themed Olympus and Twilight Town.
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Most of the worlds featured in the game based on Disney properties are new to the series, such as the Tangled-themed Kingdom of Corona and the Big Hero 6-themed San Fransokyo, though returning worlds appear, such as the Hercules-themed Olympus and Twilight Town.
The name is in the article and trailer already sourced. 68.37.227.226 (talk) 00:31, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
- Not done. That's the setting from the film, which does not mean that is the world name in this game. An example: Land of Dragons for Mulan/China in KH 2. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 00:57, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
- Generally speaking, Land of Dragons is among the exceptions; the only major cases of a world not sharing its name with its film counterpart are when it's based on a real place (e.g. China, Greece, France). My point is that the article AND trailer, both reliable sources, both explicitly refer to it as San Fransokyo; it's not unreasonable to label it as such unless some other source appears and explicitly says otherwise. -- 68.37.227.226 (talk) 05:27, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
Kingdom hearts 3 release date announcement update.
In japan kingdom hearts 3 to be released this november of 2015. In north america kingdom hearts 3 will be released on march 31st 2016. In australia kingdom hearts 3 will be released on september 29th 2016. In the EU & the UK kingdom hearts 3 it is expected to be released on september 30th of 2016. This is KMJ enjoy and thank you... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.189.124.242 (talk) 16:42, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
- Yeah, I doubt that considering the drasticly different release dates for NA and EU. Also we need a source before we can add it to the page.--Ditto51 (My Talk Page) 18:09, 3 June
2015 (UTC) it is now indefinetely postponed according to the norwegian shop spaceworld.84.212.73.96 (talk) 10:11, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
- If it's indefinitely postponed until further notice, shouldn't a release of TBA be a suitable release for now? Just until an official release is confirmed by the developers. Zacharyalejandro (talk) 17:32, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
- "norwegian shop spaceworld" doesn't sound like a reliable source at all. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 19:04, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 8 February 2016
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mark hamil casted for kh3 Thekingdomheartsnerd (talk) 21:29, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. --allthefoxes (Talk) 23:44, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
Shinji Hashimoto is Executive Producer
He's only Executive Producer so he shouldn't be listed. Brayden96 (talk) 07:23, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
there have been no new information since last year
it does seem that it is secretly canceled. gamestop`s release dates keeps changing. i suggest that this article is either deleted or lists the game as canceled.84.212.73.96 (talk) 19:18, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
- New footage was shown in November. No release date has ever been announced. Whatever date GameStop has in their system is a guess, presumably because their system requires release dates. We don't declare games cancelled just because we haven't heard anything for six months or a retailer delayed their release estimate. Reach Out to the Truth 19:32, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
- And while we're on the topic of no news since last year (November), this is Kingdom Hearts 3 and Square Enix we're talking about, they've always been sparse with information regarding it, and also probably won't cancel it because a) Disney probably won't let them due to the merchandise they could monetise from it and b) Fans that enjoy the games tend to like the Final Fantasy games as well, and cancelling this one could very much causes many fans who have been waiting for more than a decade to decide not to by FF 15 or 16 or whatever they're on now.--Ditto51 (My Talk Page) 21:08, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
1st Production Department doesn't exist any more, it's BD3
Square Enix restructured their development structure in December 2013 to the Bussiness Division structure: http://www.famitsu.com/ad/welcome/160426_uncharted/?referer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.famitsu.com%2Fnews%2F201312%2F28045984.html
KH series games are by BD3: http://www.jp.square-enix.com/recruit/career/group/3bd/ Just check the job listings, a lot of them are for KH, in particular KH3. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brayden96 (talk • contribs) 07:22, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
Peer Review
Please add comments and thoughts to help improve this article by clicking on the peer review link at the top of the article. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 13:53, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
- This peer review has since been closed. Anarchyte (work | talk) 13:01, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
Not the first to use Unreal Engine 4
"The game also is the first in the series to utilize Unreal Engine 4." is written at the end of the second paragraph, but the page for "Kingdom Hearts HD 2.8 Final Chapter Prologue" shows that it uses Unreal Engine 4 as well, and is an earlier release. 75.117.206.107 (talk) 14:47, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
- The decision was first made for this game, and then development of HD 2.8 stemmed from the work being done on III, resulting in Fragmentary Passage to use the engine. So yes, this was first, despite 2.8 releasing first. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 23:42, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
- We normally go by release date, not announcement date. And even then, this was trivia that doesn't really matter. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 05:31, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
Why is the distribution credit for DCPI removed?
Disney Consumer Products and Interactive Media is the company that distributes Disney intellectual property, and is their current video game division. Why is this removed from the Kingdom Hearts III infobox? https://dcpi.disney.com/news-category/games-interactive-news/ As you can clearly see, they are the current division promoting and distributing their video games. Iftekharahmed96 (talk) 21:06, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
- Further evidence is provided through Square Enix's official press release of the Toy Story trailer, indicating the division's involvement. Iftekharahmed96 (talk) 21:18, 16 July 2017 (UTC) http://press.na.square-enix.com/releases/991/kingdom-hearts-iii-goes-to-infinity-and-beyond
- @Iftekharahmed96: The Video Game project has determined to removed the "distributor" field from the infobox (so this isn't just for this game). The discussion regarding this can be found here. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 21:49, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
- At the very least, they deserved to be credited in the infobox. In the press release, Disney Consumer Products and Interactive Media is mentioned before Square Enix, not only validating Disney's ownership of Kingdom Hearts, but highlighting their involvement with the release of this game. Iftekharahmed96 (talk) 22:15, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
- Not really, because they are not either the developer or publisher of the game, that is all Square Enix. And since the distributor (which they are) parameter has been removed, they do not have a place in the infobox, nor the lead. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 22:56, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
- Except that they deserved to be credited because Disney owns Kingdom Hearts III, and they are directly involved with the game. They have a place in the lead because they are involved with the game. Iftekharahmed96 (talk) 23:39, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
- The field has been removed. If we removed the publisher field from infoboxes, then "Square Enix" would be removed too. It's nothing personal against DCPI, we're just literally not listing that role for video games anymore. Sergecross73 msg me 02:01, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
- At the very least, they deserved to be credited in the infobox. In the press release, Disney Consumer Products and Interactive Media is mentioned before Square Enix, not only validating Disney's ownership of Kingdom Hearts, but highlighting their involvement with the release of this game. Iftekharahmed96 (talk) 22:15, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
- @Iftekharahmed96: The Video Game project has determined to removed the "distributor" field from the infobox (so this isn't just for this game). The discussion regarding this can be found here. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 21:49, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
- Comment I have no opinion on whether it should be included in the lead or prose. Long as it has valid sourcing, I'm not sure I see an issue. Is there any proof or sourcing that shows DCPI is handling physical retail distribution of the game? Distributor is not the same as licensor or license/property ownership. However, there is no place to put it in the infobox, after distributor was removed as a field following weeks long discussions and unanimous support. This was not particular to KH III. It was removed from the infobox on all articles. -- ferret (talk) 02:22, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
- The parameter was removed from the infobox. If there is an RS listing them as distributor, that can be included in the article-proper. --Izno (talk) 04:31, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
- The field was meant for companies that handled physical distribution, not license holders and IP supervisors. The links you provided say nothing on if Disney is actually doing that. Square Enix is perfectly capable of handling distribution of their own games, and this confusion is one of the primary reasons why the field was depreciated. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 05:14, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
- I completely understand that the distribution field was removed, and I've got nothing against that decision. But that the same time, DCPI is clearly involved with the game, and at the very least, should they not be credited in the introduction paragraph if it's not really necessary to add them in the infobox? Iftekharahmed96 (talk) 13:08, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
- Iftekharahmed96, leads of Wikipedia articles summarize the rest of the articles's contents. The inclusion of some particular information in the lead of an article should be relative to its presence in the article, which itself is regulated by reliable sources. I CTRL+Fd for the name and it appears nowhere in the rest of the article. That indicates to me that its presence in the lead would be improper at this time, and I would guess, that it may never be appropriate there. --Izno (talk) 13:28, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
- The reason as to why it doesn't appear in the rest of the article is because nobody gave them credit in the article. Matter of fact, I had to be the person to rename the Disney Consumer Products article to Disney Consumer Products and Interactive Media as both the url for Disney Interactive and Disney Consumer re-directed to the official Disney Consumer Products and Interactive Media website. I'm not asking for a paragraph dedicated to them for this article, I just feel that they should be credited within the article because they have are involved with the product. Iftekharahmed96 (talk) 15:15, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
- I don't believe DCPI has any actual "production" capacity for the game (thus not needing to mention it in the infobox or body of the article, which in turn would then allow it in the lead). Square Enix is the developer and publisher of the game, and all the Square Enix release you linked to says on the matter is "KINGDOM HEARTS is a series of role-playing games created through the collaboration of Disney Interactive and Square Enix." (that doesn't help us) and then it just describes DCPI as a company, without saying how they are part of this release. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 16:46, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
- DCPI is the successor company to Disney Interactive as evident by the D23 press event. Disney doesn't use the Disney Interactive or Disney Interactive Studios brand for their video games anymore, however they both studios are still active as legal entities. As I mentioned earlier, the Disney Interactive website gets re-directed to DCPI, so it's evident that Disney wants to use DCPI as the current brand for their video games. Iftekharahmed96 (talk) 19:03, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
- Credit for what, exactly? Simply being the owner of the Disney properties? Supervising and marketing the game? None of these belong in the infobox or lead unless you can find a source that directly mentions them handling physical (or digital, but that's even less likely) distribution of the game, since the game is fully developed and published by Square Enix. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 03:40, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
- I don't believe DCPI has any actual "production" capacity for the game (thus not needing to mention it in the infobox or body of the article, which in turn would then allow it in the lead). Square Enix is the developer and publisher of the game, and all the Square Enix release you linked to says on the matter is "KINGDOM HEARTS is a series of role-playing games created through the collaboration of Disney Interactive and Square Enix." (that doesn't help us) and then it just describes DCPI as a company, without saying how they are part of this release. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 16:46, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
Placement of information in the Setting section
@Dissident93: All of the information in the second paragraph of the setting section (as seen here), in my eyes, belongs together, not broken in half as you have been adjusting it. I also don't agree with your statement that the setting section shouldn't have any of [the futue dev news] but the pure facts
. All of this info is about the setting/worlds and is most applicable there. Additionally, if we moved all the info to the development section (because all should go if we move it), I don't think the spot you added it was the best location for it, and I'm not sure there is one. It wouldn't work in my eyes having it in the development section, because we'd ultimately have to break it up as you've been suggesting. I'm feeling it all belongs together, because it flows from one point to another: info on the properties Disney has acquired, Nomura on those acquisition, Yasue on choosing a world including from the acquired properties, and then noting which worlds appear that apply to those properties. That is how I'm seeing this info work together. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 18:02, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
- The entire section should really be moved to the dev section, as it will become outdated as soon as the game releases. It's written in a way that seems more news like, and settings sections shouldn't have that type of writing. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 18:27, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
- If we were to move it to the dev section, I don't think where you originally put it is the best spot. I'm looking over what is there and I'm not entirely sure the best spot. I think it should just live as an independent paragraph, as it were, at the bottom of the section. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 22:40, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
Now that Tangled is added, Frozen should be added.
I believe Frozen should be added. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.216.209.232 (talk) 21:35, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
- Why? What's your source that it is featured in the game? - Favre1fan93 (talk) 05:19, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 13 January 2018
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Kingdom hearts 3 did NOT start development in 2006, it never has been. kh3 started late 2013 early 2013. this false information is confusing fans and causing arguments UltProtagonist (talk) 22:00, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Sakura CarteletTalk 02:47, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
Fix Baymax Link
The portion that says that Baymax is featured has the word “Baymax” linked, but it links to a page about the Marvel character as opposed to the robot from Big Hero 6. GamingBit (talk) 20:42, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
- Baymax shares the same character article as the comic book one but I change it to show the Disney version at the bottom of the article. Supergodzilla2090 (talk) 21:36, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
Big Hero 6 a Marvel property
I'm going to respectfully disagree with you're statements on Big Hero 6 being a Marvel Property implemented in KH3. Yes, Big Hero 6 started off as a Marvel Property, but the film adaptation was done by Walt Disney Animation Studios and is unrelated to the original Marvel comic. Secondly, there is no mention of Marvel anywhere on the articles when the film was announced as a world in the game.
Finally, even if you don't consider this to be reliable, Nomura has his thoughts and saying regarding Marvel and Star Wars being implemented in KH in an interview back at E3 2018 in June:
--AnimeDisneylover95 (talk) 14:33, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
KH3 settings portion
Restoring to more concise formatting for the worlds and films based on to avoid repeating the same terms over and over.
Okay I'm sorry, but I don't know why you are acting so shrewd in regards to the same terms on the Settings page. I mean have you looked at the other Kingdom Hearts Pages under the settings for ONCE on how they actually formatted?!?!? I don't see the reason to put the films in parenthesis when the other pages that had the Settings portion are perfect without it.
3. Dream Drop Distance#Settings
--AnimeDisneylover95 (talk) 01:27, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
Leaks
I believe it would be appropriate to add information about the leaks of December 2018, which included the leaking of the title screen, opening cinematic, and unseen gameplay, among other things. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.6.117.168 (talk) 07:51, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
Release is not on the same date worldwide
Kingdom Hearts III was released in Japan on January 25th and will be released on January 29th in the rest of the world. Please correct that. Also, in the info box, Takeharu Ishimoto and Tsuyoshi Sekito need to be added as composers aswell. 84.160.157.62 (talk) 15:05, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 27 January 2019
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I am an avid kingdom hearts fan and have been one since the first one came out. I would love to help out as much as I can with the page and can assure you that I wont vandalise or so anything that would cause problems. It would be an honour for me to be able to edit this page with reliable information. Thank you Ash :) Ashyboy67 (talk) 10:16, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
Not done You need to specify exactly what you want to change and how you want to change it in the edit request templates. Bettering the Wiki (talk) 11:19, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
Chinese government censorship
I thought it'd be interesting to share the fact that the game will be censored in China. The reason for this is the Chinese state's issue with Chinese people making fun of president Xi and his appearance/similarity with Winnie-the-Pooh.
Sources:
Kingdom Hearts 3: Why is Winnie The Pooh Censored?
'Kingdom Hearts 3': Winnie the Pooh Reportedly Censored Out, Square Enix Responds
--Beatitudinem (talk) 03:56, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
This was just a Chinese news site covering the game that manually censored their screenshots, there's been no confirmation that the final game is censored or if it came out in China at all. The article you linked says it has a Square Enix response but it doesn't. The Wikipedia article is also inaccurate in this regard:
"Shortly after, it was reported that the character of Winnie the Pooh would be censored in China. This was due to the Chinese government banning any depictions of the character after the character's appearance had been compared to that of Chinese president Xi Jinping.[110]"
The cited link is also inaccurate, claiming that the screenshots were of the original game, this article says that the Chinese game news site A9VG manually did the censoring of the screenshots and other sites were running the screenshots uncensored: https://kotaku.com/chinese-game-site-censors-winne-the-pooh-in-kingdom-hea-1830618072
Was going to edit the article myself but it's locked and don't feel like logging in.
107.77.236.38 (talk) 14:04, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
Open World?
Hi! I wanted to get some consensus as to whether or not Kingdom Hearts III can be considered an open world game. Sources: https://wegotthiscovered.com/gaming/kingdom-hearts-iii-review/ www.pushsquare.com/reviews/ps4/kingdom_hearts_iii https://venturebeat.com/2019/01/24/kingdom-hearts-iii-review-excessive-yet-satisfying/ https://press-start.com.au/reviews/xbox-one/2019/01/25/kingdom-hearts-iii-review-astonishing-new-heights/ https://wccftech.com/review/kingdom-hearts-iii-the-end-has-come/ https://www.gamecrate.com/reviews/review-kingdom-hearts-3-too-much-game-its-own-good/22085 https://gamecritics.com/steven-brown/kingdom-hearts-iii-review/ https://www.thexboxhub.com/kingdom-hearts-iii-review/Dohvahkiin (talk) 04:50, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
Citing unreliable sources from January 2019?
Tintor2, do you know what this is, what reference is causing this? And how do we replace it? Judgesurreal777 (talk) 15:24, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Judgesurreal777: There is a tag about unreliable sources? I can't find it. However, I kinda wonder if some references could be replaced like the ones from fansites. If you mean reference 32 (What Culture) that site might not count as reliable. Google Books has this guidebook that might be used to replaced the ones from the gameplay section and tone it down a bit. Also "Gummi Ship customization also returns,[20] with more options available than in previous Kingdom Hearts games.[28]" could be explained a bit a more for regular readers or maybe given an image considering the amount of talk.Tintor2 (talk) 15:45, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah the article is listed in the Square Enix cleanup list as having an article cleanup tag from January 2019 referring to unreliable sources. Maybe PresN knows, he’s clutch at finding these things. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 15:51, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
- Well, in regards to gameplay, maybe the using the online guidebook could be used to replace some sources. Siliconera is usually a good source but I don't know about NoobFeed. Maybe the KH Insider and KH13 fansites could be replaced with something considering their nature. Some unreliable sources at least have a comment to the original source like a Japanese interview.Tintor2 (talk) 16:10, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Judgesurreal777: Maybe this helps. When I search for reliable sources indicating something from a game, I use google's search engine and add the keywords for the material. If not, I search in regular google for the keywords alongside a website that tends to include this kinda stuff such as Siliconera.Tintor2 (talk) 16:28, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah you’re right, maybe the article just needs a scrubbing of any fan sites and then the tag will disappear on its own. I will help if I can! Judgesurreal777 (talk) 16:30, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
- I'd be pretty curious as to what this is too. I was pretty active on the page up until it's release and did a lot of the sourcing. Most were reliable by my definition at that point but things could have easily fallen through the cracks or been overlooked. I can't speak much about any sources added from the game's release until today however. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 19:44, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah you’re right, maybe the article just needs a scrubbing of any fan sites and then the tag will disappear on its own. I will help if I can! Judgesurreal777 (talk) 16:30, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Judgesurreal777: Maybe this helps. When I search for reliable sources indicating something from a game, I use google's search engine and add the keywords for the material. If not, I search in regular google for the keywords alongside a website that tends to include this kinda stuff such as Siliconera.Tintor2 (talk) 16:28, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
- Well, in regards to gameplay, maybe the using the online guidebook could be used to replace some sources. Siliconera is usually a good source but I don't know about NoobFeed. Maybe the KH Insider and KH13 fansites could be replaced with something considering their nature. Some unreliable sources at least have a comment to the original source like a Japanese interview.Tintor2 (talk) 16:10, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
So question, is “What Culture” a reliable source? Because that’s what someone tagged as needing a better source. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 14:51, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
GA candidate?
It looks really good, perhaps whoever is the main improver of this article should really consider it. We nearly have all the Kingdom Hearts games at good article level, could make a good topic! Judgesurreal777 (talk) 18:27, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
- I haven't played this game or edited this article but before nominating it, don't some parts from the article have too many references? Kinda like an overkill. It made sense before considering the game had yet to be released so maybe that could be worked before the nominating it.Tintor2 (talk) 18:31, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
- I think a lot of references is fine for a game in development for 15 years. Who were or are the major editors or this article? It should be ready I think for a GA run @Tintor2: ... Judgesurreal777 (talk) 17:35, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
- I never edited this article so I don't think I'm the right user to ask permission.Tintor2 (talk) 17:39, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
- I would be willing, unless there are any objections. I have gotten many Kingdom Hearts articles to GA before! Are there any objections? Judgesurreal777 (talk) 17:40, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
- I never edited this article so I don't think I'm the right user to ask permission.Tintor2 (talk) 17:39, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Tintor2:, if you have time, could you add the todo references to the article? I’m juggling a bunch of articles at the moment, it would help so I could just nominate and fix this article :) If you get the chance! Judgesurreal777 (talk) 23:03, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
- The English one is already used while the rest are Japanese.Tintor2 (talk) 00:21, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
- OK Great. Do you think it would be OK if I guided this article through good article nomination? @Tintor2: Judgesurreal777 (talk) 16:10, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
- Any thoughts on that idea @Tintor2:? I could help guide it through GA nomination... Judgesurreal777 (talk) 17:12, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
- Sorry for the delayed response but it looks pretty good. I didn't play the game but I managed to understand the plot section well.Tintor2 (talk) 17:42, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
Error in the Voice Cast Section
In the Voice Cast section, Mark Hamil is credited as the English voice of "Terra, Aqua, Ventus (and Roxas)", but voiced none of these characters, as Terra was voiced by Jason Dohring, Aqua was voiced by Willa Holand, and Ventus and Roxas were voiced by Jesse McCartney[1]. I can't edit the page so I figure this is the best place to point it out Airkid101 (talk) 14:34, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
- Article isn't saying that. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 17:32, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Kingdom Hearts III Full cast and Crew". IMDB. IMDB. Retrieved 21 January 2021.
Full cover art?
Is there any particular reason why the full cover art is not used in the infobox? The current photo is a cropped version and doesn't show the full box art. I understand images must be low-res to be considered fair use but is there any other reason the current photo is cropped like that? (Genuine question, I'm not familiar with guidelines about fair use)
For reference, the full box art image exists here: https://store.na.square-enix-games.com/en_US/product/602006/kingdom-hearts-iii Basil the Bat Lord (talk) 06:01, 23 February 2021 (UTC)