Talk:July 2019 European heat wave

Start of heat wave

What marks the start of the heat wave? What source is there to say it started 21 July as in the infobox? Coldbolt (talk) 21:42, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

info apparently not in source cited

The lead says

It was caused by a strong omega block, of [4] hot, dry air from North Africa, trapped between cold storm systems.

The source cited is

Mackintosh, Eliza (25 July 2019). "UK weather heats up as Europe smashes records". CNN. Turner Broadcasting System, Inc. Retrieved 25 July 2019.

https://edition.cnn.com/uk/live-news/heat-wave-europe-thursday-dle-intl/index.html

I don't see that info in the article at the URL provided.

- 2804:14D:5C59:8300:0:0:0:1000 (talk) 01:43, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

In the CNN cited, see section "11:58 a.m. ET, July 25, 2019 -- Why is it so hot? -- From CNN's Dave Hennen"

It says "The heat wave hanging over Europe is being caused by a meteorological effect know as an omega block, a high pressure area that sits in one place for a long period of time---"

—Haim Berman (talk) 10:55, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

Number of deaths

In the body of the article, the number of deaths is said to be "at least 13", but there are only six mentioned in the article. There is no source cited for there being 13 deaths, so this figure should be changed.

Requested move 4 August 2019

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The result of the move request was: Not moved  — Amakuru (talk) 19:55, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

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July 2019 European heat wave → July-August 2019 European heat wave – The infobox says the heat wave is still going on now so it should be moved to this title. Interstellarity (talk) 14:41, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

• As long as the infobox includes August, I feel obliged to support this nomimation. --Comment by Selfie City (talk about my contributions) 16:35, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
• Support - If the heatwave continued through at least August 1, 2019, then the title should be changed. --Jax 0677 (talk) 23:06, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose - I'm pretty sure the temperatures were back to reasonable levels in all countries by 31 July. For example, in Helsinki, which is chronologically the last place on the page, the data says temps peaked at 33°C on the 28th but already stayed under 20°C on the 29th. It's a bit hard to pinpoint the exact date though, as it's not the sort of thing media are going to report on unfortunately. If there's evidence that the heat wave continued past 1 August, I'll support the move. ATM I'd suggest changing the end date in infobox to 28 July as that's the last date for which extreme temperatures have been mentioned in the article. Daß Wölf 06:51, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
• Support - but suggest Summer 2019 European heatwave. Unreal7 (talk) 17:19, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
  • @Unreal7: I would oppose moving to Summer 2019 European heatwave. There are two heat waves in the same summer, one in June and one in July. So it is ambiguous. If we decide to move it to that title, the two articles should be merged together into one article. Interstellarity (talk) 17:42, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
    • Reply - Per MOS:SEASON, "Avoid the use of seasons to refer to a particular time of year (winter 1995) as such uses are ambiguous: the seasons are six months apart in the northern and southern hemispheres, and areas near the equator have only wet and dry seasons". --Jax 0677 (talk) 17:47, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
• Comment If there is consensus to move the page, an en dash should be used in the title (July–August 2019 European heat wave) rather than a hyphen per MOS:DASH. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 21:43, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose unless there's evidence that the European heat wave continued into this month. Jim Michael (talk) 14:25, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
• The infobox is adjusted to include only July now; therefore, I have removed my support vote. --Comment by Selfie City (talk about my contributions) 14:40, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

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Proposed merge of June 2019 European heat wave into July 2019 European heat wave

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To merge into a joint article on the grounds that while they are temporally distinct, they are best discussed together. Klbrain (talk) 10:10, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

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Both are the same event, Late June to Early July. Articles should be merged. Moist towelett (talk) 14:02, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

• Support They are different events but occur in the same summer. Effects and impacts can be included together. RandomIntrigue (talk) 10:15, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
• Support I agree with RandomIntrigue. Each heat wave is separate (time duration) but there is a little time difference between them so we can freely speak about one wave which can be described in one article. Mikola22 (talk) 14:39, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

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Note that the joint title is probably best places on the current DAB page 2019 European heat wave. Klbrain (talk) 10:10, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

  Y Merger complete. Klbrain (talk) 10:37, 27 December 2020 (UTC)