Talk:Islam and abortion

concept of life

The concept of life is not decided by some Islamic Scholar. To say that would be ludicrous. Opinions must be balanced.--71.102.116.218 (talk) 19:09, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

This article doesn't pretend to establish what is the concept of life. This article shows the Islamic point of view and there is no need to balance it.--Avemundi (talk) 12:11, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Article needs revision: it's unclear and contradictory. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.169.117.168 (talk) 11:21, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Could you elaborate so that users can fix those problems? –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 17:40, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

I think what they mean is that it starts off seeming as if Muslims are okay with abortion and it's not so bad, but then it is also saying later on that it is haram (forbidden) but not haram under certain circumstances. I do understand this article myself, but also I can see where some would see this as contradictory or confusing.50.47.102.200 (talk) 20:22, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

In the next month or so, I will start adding more information. Herivelismus (talk) 03:05, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Have corrected the link for Ekrima Sa'id Sabri, former Grand Mufti of Palestine as someone had changed it to a link to a Singaporean football player! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.221.105.49 (talk) 17:20, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

Is the intro providing advice, or does it just need to be reworded?

"According to Sherman Jackson, 'while abortion, even during the first trimester, is forbidden according to a minority of jurists, it is not held to be an offense for which there are criminal or even civil sanctions,' so Muslims should not support legal restrictions on abortion rights unsupported by Islamic law, as opposed to solely moral activism.[3]"

Should not support? And: "as opposed to..." what does that mean? Bob Enyart, Denver KGOV radio host (talk) 13:16, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

There is no Muslim-majority country that completely bans abortion.

This is a rather misleading statement. There are very few countries that ourtight bans abortion but there are maybe even less muslim majority countries where abortion is legal on request. Samir.Ivarsson (talk) 17:06, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Abortion_Laws.svg

@Samir.Ivarsson: Sorry, could you clarify the claim you are making? What do you think is wrong with the intro? Kamalthebest (talk) 05:43, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

@Kamalthebest: Actually I can't remember what my beef was, just re-read it and it seems fine ... Samir.Ivarsson (talk) 00:37, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

@Samir.Ivarsson: Ok, well that's good. Glad it was resolved. Kamalthebest (talk) 01:15, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

Hadith

All three ahadith cited in the article talk about compensation to be given to a pregnant woman who has experienced a miscarriage as a result of an assault. What is the connection between this and the permissibility of abortion? 180.183.72.25 (talk) 15:56, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

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dubious?

@St.nerol:, what's the issue with the bits you flagged? –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 21:43, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi @Roscelese:! I think the paragraphs easily could give the impression to give factual descriptions about fetal development. For example, it's simply not correct that a "blood clot forms into flesh" around 80 days after fertilization. (The developing human is classified as a fetus from the start of week 9 (day 56), and a human foetus, while containing both flesh and blood, is certainly not "blood-clot like".)

Perhaps some sentences could be rewritten as to clearly communicate that they describe a traditional islamic view of embryogenesis? (And also specify the tradition? Does current Islamic scholars hold to these descriptions of human development?) −−St.nerol (talk) 00:10, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

@St.nerol: I thought it was already pretty clear that this represented a traditional view, not a scientific one, but I see where you're coming from in that that maybe isn't explicitly stated. –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 00:20, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Four months

Reverted "fourty" days back to four months, in direct quotation from cited source. –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 03:13, 13 July 2019 (UTC)

COI edit request

Please add the following sentence somewhere in this article:

Among contemporary Sunni scholars, Yasir Qadhi states that abortion may be performed within the first 40 days of pregnancy "for a very legitimate reason", but is prohibited after that period, at which point ensoulment occurs.

I think it is necessary to have at least some mention of modern scholars' views on the subject; while I respect Imam Ghazzali, I doubt his opinions, stated several centuries ago, are sufficient in an article on what is a very real issue today.

I have a COI with Shaykh Yasir, so I cannot make the edit myself. Best, M Imtiaz (talk · contribs) 15:39, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Y Done, M Imtiaz. Sdrqaz (talk) 12:34, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

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