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A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on August 24, 2021. The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that "I Knew You Were Trouble" made Taylor Swift (pictured) the first artist to have two songs each sell over 400,000 digital copies within the first week of release in the U.S.?
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The period

Taylor Swift herself doesn't put a dot on the song's name. Maybe it was a problem of the typing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.13.211.153 (talk) 20:09, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well it's on all official track listings, it's on the offical single cover, and it's listed with the period by digital music retailers... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Qpally (talk • contribs) 22:10, 17 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

What you're saying might well be true, but I don't believe that stylising a name with a final period is a hugely significant change. Unlike other stylisations, eg: 'Ipad' as 'iPad', or 'Beast' as 'B2ST', this extra period is not something that most people would really pay attention to. Indeed, without the final period, the song title is just as easily recognised (unlike the examples I have given). Therefore I don't believe that the stylisation should really be noted as the very first thing in the article. I propose deleting the statement in brackets: "(stylized as "I Knew You Were Trouble.")". In fact, I had to compare the stylised version with the normal version many times before I could even register that the difference was a full stop; the difference was so small. EryZ (talk) 02:48, 16 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think you might be right about this. What say you delete it yourself? :) —Indian:BIO · ^{[ ChitChat ]} 08:29, 17 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It is not an "error" as the single cover has it and the back of the album's track listing. Now granted common name would have it without the period but to say "(stylized as "I Knew You Were Trouble.")" is a good thing since this is an encyclopedia and should not all information possible be posted? 184.58.3.213 (talk) 17:35, 19 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia should not be allowed to deny people that knowledge of the song being stylized with a period. Just cause it "annoys" some people does not mean it needs removed. Thanks replaced it for knowledge over stuipid Wikipedia rules that do not really exist. 184.58.3.213 (talk) 18:50, 20 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You absolutely haven't based your assertions on any wikipedia rules or policies governing this. The period at the end of the song is just a stylization and not even a major one that is visible. There are numerous cases of stylizations which are not allowed in Wikipedia: Ke$ha, "Yoü and I", P!nk etc. This is all per WP:COMMONNAME which dictates the policy. The addition of a period does not serve any purpose and neither are people going to pronounce the song as "I Knew You Were Trouble Period". So moot discussion. And before you patronize me on voting, it is consensus we decide on, not vote and when there is no point that you can make except that people would want to know, then there is nothing that we can do but follow WP:COMMONNAME. What is the significance of this period? Did Swift say something about it? Did the third party reliable sources say anything? Please address these and then discuss on the change. And on the contrary, I have just kept the stylization bit in the lead section, the only place where its appropriate. —Indian:BIO · ^{[ ChitChat ]} 05:36, 21 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Orphaned references in I Knew You Were Trouble

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of I Knew You Were Trouble's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "amazon":

From We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together: "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together: Taylor Swift: MP3 Download". Amazon.com (US) Amazon.com Inc. 2012-08-14. Archived from the original on 2012-08-23. Retrieved 2012-08-17.
From Poland: Adam Zamoyski, The Polish Way: A Thousand Year History of the Poles and Their Culture^{[dead link‍]}. Published 1993, Hippocrene Books, Poland, ISBN 978-0-7818-0200-0

Reference named "google":

From Kraków: ''Cracow: City of Treasures'', by Beata Moore. Google Books. 25 August 2006. ISBN 978-0-7112-2571-8. Retrieved 9 November 2010.
From Poland: Davies (2007). Warfare, State and Society on the Black Sea Steppe,1500–1700.. p.17.
From We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together: "Taylor Swift: We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together". Google Play. Google Inc. 2012-08-13. Archived from the original on 2012-08-23. Retrieved 2012-08-17.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 16:11, 22 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Should this say "(stylized as "I Knew You Were Trouble.")"?

I think it should as it is on the single cover, the CD single cover and on the official track listing so people are aware it is not an error in publishing. I am also under the impression that this is a copyrighted work and as such changes in anyway to a copyrighted material is grounds for copyright infringement. But I am not sure of everything I just know that people who are not aware should know and should see that it is actually done that way so i think it should be kept that way. Besides as I said before this is an encyclopedia and encyclopedias are suppose to be chalkful of information about things so I see no reason to remove the information Also the album page on here post it as "I Knew You Were Trouble." so why shouldn't any other page mention it? Just trying to find something that makes sense here. 184.58.3.213 (talk) 19:16, 20 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Also can we get personal opinions not quotes of fake wiki rules in this vote. Thanks. 184.58.3.213 (talk) 19:18, 20 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep: That's how the song is presented, it should be kept easily Whatever318 (talk) 01:50, 22 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That is not a reason to achieve consensus on the matter, and yes, Wikipedia goes by consensus achieved from the rules governing this encyclopedia, not vote. —Indian:BIO · ^{[ ChitChat ]} 06:34, 27 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Now it says stylized as I Knew You Were Trouble, when it says the same thing before. Why is that so? I'm not quite sure so could someone maybe look into it?

There is no such thing as "Popstep"

Just wanted to point out that what this song's genre is tagged on the article is complete malarkey. - The Real One Returns (talk) 12:12, 18 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Glad you said that. I was just sitting here, thinking "Popstep??" There are currently more mythical genres of pop music than Baskin Robbins has flavors, and the names are usually as imaginative. Profhum (talk) 10:49, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Right, it doesn't make much sense either. There has also been a recent change also listing this song as country, what about that? I'm not sure if I should rv Helicopter Llama 00:29, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Billboard calls it a popstep song, so yeah... it's sourced, and yeah, it's a genre. — Statυs (talk, contribs) 01:11, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Popstep is a genre fused by dubstep and pop (hence pop-step) and is a type of post-dubstep for all you. Jjj1238 (talk) 02:12, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Remixes

This song has seen a HELL of a lot of humorous parody-style remixes, and there's been a few reports on them as well, particularly the "Goat" remix. [1][2][3][4][5][6] My only concern is whether these sources are reliable enough to allow a paragraph to be written in the article, as I believe there should be one, since there is definitely plenty of coverage out there. Lukeno94 (talk) 19:56, 2 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Official release remix by rapper Sammy Adams: http://987ampradio.cbslocal.com/2012/11/12/sammy-adams-remix-of-taylor-swifts-i-knew-you-were-trouble/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.189.18.234 (talk) 17:45, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Shouldn't both Billboard be italic where it says in the lead, "This song is also her first number-one on Billboard Adult Pop Songs, where she'd risen as high as number two with "You Belong With Me", and her second number-one song on the Billboard Hot 100 Airplay where it stayed there for four weeks."?

Yes it should be. Changing. —Indian:BIO · ^{[ ChitChat ]} 07:41, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Danish iTunes tracklist

In Denmark the song made it to the second place, on the iTunes tracklist ;) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.106.144.130 (talk) 12:11, 23 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Cover

For the people who cover This song I thought maybe you guys can put Victoria justice Cuz she Covered it during a concert in the house of blues — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.187.227.220 (talk) 14:26, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Pop rock

Just saying, this is not a pop rock song at all, or even power pop. Noreplyhaha (talk) 13:40, 17 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You're incorrect, since the genre is reliably sourced. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 13:47, 17 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Slant Magazine wrote that the bass drops into an arrangement. Not really a pop rock song. 123.136.106.165 (talk) 01:20, 19 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

If it's on the radio in 4/4, it doesn't matter where the bass drops! InedibleHulk (talk) 08:28, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

See Catch My Breath. Critic also says pop rock arrangement. 2402:1980:82A0:BF4C:0:0:0:1 (talk) 07:18, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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