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Giuseppe Verdi (1813–1901) was an Italian composer best known for his operas. He was born near Busseto to a provincial family of moderate means, receiving a musical education with the help of a local patron. Verdi came to dominate the Italian opera scene after the era of Gioachino Rossini, Vincenzo Bellini, and Gaetano Donizetti, whose works significantly influenced him. This group portrait, taken at Villa Verdi, his residence in Sant'Agata near Busseto in 1900, shows Verdi (seated in the middle) with various family and friends. His companion Teresa Stolz stands at the left, Giulio Ricordi is second from the right, and Verdi's adopted daughter, Maria Carrara, is seated at the far left. Also in the photograph is the painter Leopoldo Metlicovitz, standing on the far right.

Photograph credit: Giulio Rossi; restored by Adam Cuerden

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Switching Verdi's lead portrait

I think this should be the lead portrait of the article - it was drawn the same year and by the same artist as the current lead image, yet this one is far more iconic (with even a source), and I would argue, represents him better.

Please feel free to let me know your thoughts on this. Wikieditor662 (talk) 21:58, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The source appears to be dead. Why do you believe it better represents him? Nikkimaria (talk) 04:38, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Images Says that lead images should be based on "what our readers expect to see", and I think most people who know Verdi would expect to see that portrait. Wikieditor662 (talk) 10:05, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What makes you say that? Nikkimaria (talk) 01:19, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There's no way of 100% proving which portrait is more well known, so it's probably best to use our discretion if there's no other choice... And I think it's pretty obvious that this portrait of Verdi is far more recognizable. Wikieditor662 (talk) 01:47, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at the sources used in this article and profiles of Verdi elsewhere, it appears that a wide variety of images are used to represent him, including the current one. I don't see it as obvious at all that the proposed alternative is more recognizable. Nikkimaria (talk) 02:03, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well perhaps the fact that more than 100 other wikipedia commons pages used the image I'm suggesting, as opposed to much less for the other, so this might tell you other people also recognize this one portrait more easily.

I understand that this is hardly enough to provide with concrete evidence on its own, however the only other option would be to choose one randomly, and I think that this option would be better. Wikieditor662 (talk) 02:16, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think that the Baldini portrait shows more of his face, and the other is extremely dark, so of the two would prefer Baldini. What other options could we consider? What I don't don't like about Baldini is the dominance of formal outfit - for someone who liked to be a peasant. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:51, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure which one is the Baldini, but those are generally good reasons. Wikieditor662 (talk) 03:20, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]