Talk:Ezio Auditore da Firenze
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Ezio was a real person
[edit]I read an article about Ezio Auditore and it contained, that Ezio was a real person. He had a father (Giovanni Auditore), who was a banker, and two brothers, of which the youngest one (Peticinno) died because of an illness (the elder son of Giovanni was named Riccardo). Ezio became an assassin and was a close friend of Leonardo da Vinci. Also here for further information:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Auditore http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Was_ezio_auditore_da_firenze_a_real_person
EDIT: ALL characters shown in the Animus portions of the Assassins Creed Games are non-fictional. It is simply their lives with the Assassins and Templars that are fictional. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.57.91.195 (talk) 15:42, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
- Wait, so, if what your saying is true, why not prove it with the sources we supposedly have on the "real" Ezio Auditore. Because if it is true, then it definitely needs to be in the article. Reman Empire (talk) 15:13, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
Can't the assassins be revived Again Bandile Jiholo (talk) 04:09, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
Ezio derives from Aetos (greek for eagle) ?
[edit]I don't see how ezio can be derived from aetos. Perhaps that's what Ubisoft claims, but as a speaker of the language, I just don't see the connection. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.48.72.139 (talk) 13:37, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
About Rodrigo Borgia
[edit]There's a mistake, Borgia became Pope in 1492 , and the confrontation between Ezio and him was in 1499. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.65.141.212 (talk) 21:56, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
Fixed, thanks. Remember, you're totally free to edit pages yourself if you feel something should be changed, PreviouslyBannedUser(I'm sorry) (talk) 18:30, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
"Later life" issue.
[edit]Ezio's later life section says that he died 'shortly after' Shao Jun left. However, the emperor she mentions died in 1521 (most likely by her hand, in the fiction), three years before Ezio's listed death. Given how accurate Ubisoft has been about inclusions of true history into the fiction in the past, I think either 'shortly after' needs to be reworded better, or it is possible that Ezio's listed date of death is incorrect. - 83.101.71.21 (talk) 08:56, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
Ezio getting his own page
[edit]Why does Ezio get his own page? Altair and Connor don't... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.5.148.100 (talk) 15:23, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
3 full games, more well known as the "poster boy" of Assassin's Creed, therefore more notable PreviouslyBannedUser(I'm sorry) (talk) 23:00, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
Image
[edit]Is there a reason why this article has a picture of a man in fancy dress rather than one of the many available images of the actual character from one of the games? Codeine (talk) 13:46, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
- There is nothing being "available" because nobody uploaded any. --Niemti (talk) 18:02, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
- Ah-ha, I see. I meant available on the internet elsewhere. No worries, I'll find one and upload it to Commons later when I get in from work if no-one has any objections. It just seems to make more sense to me to have a picture of the actual character from the game rather than someone dressed up as him. :) Codeine (talk) 15:08, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
- This one for example? As it's already on the AC wiki, there shouldn't be any usage or copyright issues with it. Codeine (talk) 18:06, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
- OK, I've gone ahead and transferred the image above to this page. Let's see what happens. :) -- Codeine (talk) 22:42, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
- This one for example? As it's already on the AC wiki, there shouldn't be any usage or copyright issues with it. Codeine (talk) 18:06, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
- Ah-ha, I see. I meant available on the internet elsewhere. No worries, I'll find one and upload it to Commons later when I get in from work if no-one has any objections. It just seems to make more sense to me to have a picture of the actual character from the game rather than someone dressed up as him. :) Codeine (talk) 15:08, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
Soul Hunters
[edit]You might also want to mention in the article that Ezio will have a guest appearance in the mobile card game Soul Hunters (also known as Dot Arena) produced by Lilith Games. Announcement from Facebook here: [1]. Article here: [2] ElMeroEse (talk) 18:08, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
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Edits to Biography section
[edit]Hello, I was wondering if it was alright if I am able to edit and expand on the Biography section. I have the Essential Guide encyclopedia as well as a couple other sources to give solid information for his biography. (Masian96 (talk) 18:09, 3 April 2018 (UTC)Masian96)
- @Masian96: Of course yes! You are invited to expand it. Remember to add sources correctly, read WP:REF for more information. Thanks. Tajotep (talk) 18:15, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
Edit to Biography section
[edit]I added a few minor details to the biography section (name of his father, names of siblings, age at which tutoring stops). However, my information comes from Assassin's Creed II in the database section of the game's menu. Is this a credible source for this information? If so, how would I cite this source (I'm assuming screenshots are out of the question)? If not, what would be a better source for this information? Wii Music (talk) 02:21, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Wii Music: You can cite a videogame using his template ({{cite video game |title= |developer= |publisher= |date= |platform= |version= |scene= |level= |language= |quote= }}) Tajotep (talk) 13:29, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
I just wanted to inform everyone that I have started making some major edits to the biography section and will continue to do so throughout the week. Please let me know if there is anything you want added/changed or just let me know if you made such changes yourself thanks! Masian96 (talk) 23:18, 23 April 2018 (UTC)Masian96
GA Review
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Reviewer: Abryn (talk · contribs) 16:49, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
- It is reasonably well written.
- a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
- The article features multiple typographical and grammatical errors. It also features redundancies in text. For example, the Development section mentions his relative lack of experience in two separate instances despite that information already been made apparent to the reader earlier.
- a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
- It is factually accurate and verifiable.
- a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):
Upon doing a copyvio check, the program I used came back with a copyvio certainty of >90%. Further examination lead me to discover that much of the plot section is plagiarized from another source, with minor changes added.Also has a dead link and unsourced passages. Whoops. Super my bad, I wasn't thorough.
- a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):
- It is broad in its coverage.
- a (major aspects): b (focused):
- Plot prose is quite long, and could perhaps stand to be fixed. The Reception section I feel is lacking quite a bit and needs further expanding.
- a (major aspects): b (focused):
- It follows the neutral point of view policy.
- Fair representation without bias:
- In the Development section, the text refers to progression trees as stale without indicating that this is the opinion of the designer. I also noticed multiple seemingly unsourced claims that Ezio's outfit is 'signature'.
- Fair representation without bias:
- It is stable.
- No edit wars, etc.:
- Seems fine.
- No edit wars, etc.:
- It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
- a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
- Image lacks a proper source and doesn't explain why it cannot be replaced by a free use image.
- a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
- Overall:
- Pass/Fail:
When I noticed the copyvios, I was at first debating whether to put it on hold so that can be addressed. However, that in combination with all of the other issues - as well as a reception section that, I think, relies too heavily on reception that lacks much substance and all of the other problems in the article, I feel this should be failed and brought back to GAN once the issues have been ironed out.Looking at it and fixing my own glaring error, the plot section seems acceptable, though I do not personally know if it may be overwrought or not. Other issues still apply however. I'm giving it another week for improvements. - Bryn (talk) (contributions) 20:06, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
- Pass/Fail:
You got me confused now @User:Abryn, did it fail or is it on hold? It is shown to me as a failed nomination. As for the points addressed:
- I was always very unsatisfied with the development section and was hoping someone could point out some points to improve.
- the plot section has already been trimmed down quite a bit (3 AAA titles, a DS game and a film have to be fitted) but I can try to get it a bit shorter.
- I will look to expand the reception section, though many sources you find on the internet are considered unreliable by Wikipedia. Scholary reception could be an option though.
- I will adress typos and problematic passages asap.
Thank you so much for taking the time to review the article!DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 20:31, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
- Yeah, I failed it because I had a really sloppy misunderstanding of something. It was super mb. - Bryn (talk) (contributions) 20:33, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
- Don‘t worry, that can always happen! Is there a way to reverse the fail or to get around the problem?DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 20:39, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
I guess we can ask an admin. @Sergecross73: help I'm bad - Bryn (talk) (contributions) 21:10, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
- Are you asking because you don’t know how to fix it, or if you don’t know if it’s within protocol? If you can fix it, I’d say go for it. Sergecross73 msg me 21:30, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
It's definitely within protocol for a reviewer to reverse a mistaken closure and reopen their review. I have fixed the GA nominee template on the article's talk page, so this is back in business. It is currently "on hold", since that's the status that Bryn gave it when they tried to resume the review. BlueMoonset (talk) 07:51, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
Improvement requests
[edit]- Have removed all allusions to signature outfits etc.--DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 14:04, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
- Have reworded the development section to avoid redundancies and neutrality issues.--DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 14:07, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
- I have condensed the plot section further. As mentioned above, it has to fill 3 games with 40+ hours of story, a ds title and a short film, so I think shortening it further will be difficult.--DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 14:29, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
- I could not find a free image of Ezio, as the original file states, but I have tried to make that more apparent in the description.--DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 14:54, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
I will try to enlarge the reception and legacy section next. However, most articles on the topic not included yet come from whatculture etc., so this will be a challenge. I could try to look into scholary reception though.--DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 14:31, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
- Have expanded the section by adding his reception upon release, as scholary reception of him as a character is quite sparse.--DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 19:22, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
- The reception looks to be improved. I'm a little busy with life/other Wikipedia stuff, but I'll make sure to give it a super thorough looksie before any closure of the GA occurs. - Bryn (talk) (contributions) 16:39, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
- No worries, take your time. If you find anything else you want me to work on, let me know!--DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 19:47, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
- The flu is the worst thing ever. - Bryn (talk) (contributions) 16:30, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
- Get well soon!DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 15:16, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
- The flu is the worst thing ever. - Bryn (talk) (contributions) 16:30, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
- No worries, take your time. If you find anything else you want me to work on, let me know!--DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 19:47, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
- The reception looks to be improved. I'm a little busy with life/other Wikipedia stuff, but I'll make sure to give it a super thorough looksie before any closure of the GA occurs. - Bryn (talk) (contributions) 16:39, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
The reception section has seen much improvement. Nice job. I fixed up a few things, and noticed a couple issues. John Davidson's comments are likened to VanOrd's, but the two don't appear to say similar things. And with such little reception on his role in Revelations, it might behoove you to group VanOrd's comments in one place. You should also try to use less samey words; for instance, in two successive sentences, you start with "Like [pronoun]". If that can be avoided, it's recommended. Overall though, the issues that remain are surmountable, and ones I'd just as well rather help tweak rather than point out. - Bryn (talk) (contributions) 08:52, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
- I tried to regroup the statements and avoid redundancies.--DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 10:19, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
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