Talk:Dr Disrespect

Removal of in game content from NBA2K and Rogue Company

Shortly after the reason for DrDisrespect's Twitch ban was revealed, NBA 2K removed all content related to him from the game. This included his character model and elements from story-related modes. Dexerto also confirmed that DrDisrespect's custom dunk and jump shot animations would be "rotated out." Nearly two weeks later, Rogue Company followed suit by removing DrDisrespect's in-game skin.

Above could be a starting point for an addition to this wiki for removed content. Rock & roll is not dead (talk) 16:08, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

I probably should have known this too, but you keep citing, to quote WP:VG/RS, a tabloid publication that rarely engages in serious journalism; while it may be used as a source on a case by case basis (with some editors arguing for the reliability of its esports coverage), it is usually better to find an alternative source, and it is rarely suitable for use on BLPs or to establish notability. Maybe explain that first? 2601:47:100:AC40:4DA2:6017:411B:C24 (talk) 16:15, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

I didn't know Dexerto was considered a bad source, but it appears Dexerto broke the story and Dotesports and Verge (which are considered "green"/good) are sourcing Dexerto. Rock & roll is not dead (talk) 16:31, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Shortly after the reason for DrDisrespect's Twitch ban was revealed, NBA 2K removed all content related to him from the game. This included his character model and elements from story-related modes, custom dunk, and jump shot animations would be "rotated out." Nearly two weeks later, Rogue Company followed suit by removing DrDisrespect's in-game skin.

No longer references to Dexerto. Gamespot, can be used as well. All sources used are green and allowed per wiki guidance (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Video_games/Sources). I am asking for this to be added in. Rock & roll is not dead (talk) 20:32, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

Both  Done and  Not done. 2601AC47 (talk) 00:08, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

I didn't initially see the Rogue entry. I think the following can be added to the Video game development section:

In June 2024, shortly after the details of DrDisrespect's Twitch ban became public, NBA 2K confirmed all content featuring him would be removed from the game. This included his character model, elements from story-related modes, and his custom dunk and jump shot animations.Rock & roll is not dead (talk) 01:43, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

References

Semi-protected edits requests on July 8 2024

1st. Update the total views on his YT channel to 738.3 738.5 million.

2nd. Minor correction to a quoted tweet: [...] The powers that be could read in plain text." - should be plain text".

3rd. Auto archive all closed / inactive talk sections that are older than 60 days (1,440 hours) or when this page gets over 50K. Kind of copied the code from Talk:Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother; is that a good idea? 2601:47:100:AC40:EFA:6866:1B37:68C6 (talk) 17:14, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Updated requests. 2601:47:100:AC40:E870:90FB:6CAA:E4F9 (talk) 11:36, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Begrudgingly registered...

Another request, a screenshot of a livestream by Dr Disrespect on June 5 2024 titled "DR DISRESPECT - WARZONE - NBA FINALS & FANDUEL" [1]. Admittedly, this may go too far but, the thing is, where should this be placed?

[REMOVED AS REQUESTED] 2601AC47 (talk) 17:10, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

@Axem Titanium: Note that the image used for Streaming persona does show him as he usually would on a stream (or promotion for FanDuel in this case). The image on the infobox shows him on a red carpet to an in-person event in 2018, which can be distinguishable that way. For the record:

2601AC47 (talk) 17:44, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

He's wearing the same wig and sunglasses he always wears. I don't find the differences to be meaningful. If you find a picture of him without the wig and glasses, that would be one thing, but he's clearly "in-character" in both of the images in question. Also you should probably request File:DrDisrespect Livestream June 2024.png to be deleted under Commons:Commons:Criteria for speedy deletion#G7. It's uploaded on Commons but it includes copyrighted images owned by Activision/Microsoft which are not allowed there. Axem Titanium (talk) 18:24, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Sure. Attempt 2 which avoids showing whatever he plays, but behind him is an ad for FanDuel. Again, from the stream. [REMOVED] 2601AC47 (talk) 18:49, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

What are you attempting to illustrate by including this image? Axem Titanium (talk) 20:59, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay. Simply put: I think that it's reasonably due as far as the placement and pertinence of the image may be concerned, not an intent to advertise.

After going through the last 8 streams, I still couldn't find a better image that would directly depict DrDisrespect's persona let alone his signature mannerism. 2601:47:100:AC40:38E9:61A4:35CF:E7C7 (talk) 13:39, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

Can you explain specifically what this image adds to the article above and beyond the infobox image? I get that there's a feeling of "photo taken moments before disaster" schadenfreude to it, but it's not obvious to me what the encyclopedic value of that is. In terms of illustrating what he looks like, it overlaps in the same way as the other image I removed. Axem Titanium (talk) 18:55, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

It would be placed in Career or Streaming persona primarily to show how he usually presents himself during a stream. Although it's probably desirable to call it a photo taken moments before disaster; not how most would see things like this. Encyclopedic-wise, I think I already answered that. 2601:47:100:AC40:CB3A:CBEA:4D9B:2E62 (talk) 20:33, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

Again, it's not obvious to me "how he presents himself during a stream" looks meaningfully different from the infobox photo. He's a dude in a mullet wig and reflective glasses wearing some sort of biker vest in both images. I don't see how having a 2nd image of that meaningfully adds to the 1st. Axem Titanium (talk) 20:58, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

Biker vest? Point taken. They're gilets. Secondly, there may be some confusion if readers only see him like he did in 2018 compared to now, and not the sort you're describing, truly. Admit it. 2601:47:100:AC40:CB3A:CBEA:4D9B:2E62 (talk) 21:12, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

2018 was not that long ago. He looks like the same middle-aged white dude in both photos to me. I have a hard time imagining readers not believing that they're the same person. Axem Titanium (talk) 21:53, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

@2601AC47 The image you uploaded violates copyright guidelines and cannot be added. Photos uploaded to Wikipedia must follow copyright guidelines, and the screenshot you added is of a YouTube livestream that is not marked with a Creative Commons "Reuse allowed" Attribution. B3251_(talk) 22:21, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

But what if he changes into someone different...

Fine. Can you fulfill the other requests? 2601:47:100:AC40:61A4:9699:6E17:B02A (talk) 23:26, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

 Done ... 2601AC47 (talk) 12:27, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 August 2024

Add that he’s a convicted predator 2600:6C52:6800:78C:3DBD:9D5:D05C:8ADB (talk) 18:34, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Cannolis (talk) 20:26, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

The fact he confimed it himself on twitter/X 2607:FEA8:FC10:7991:8EBE:AC83:83BE:E272 (talk) 02:51, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

Is there any secondary news source or primary criminal records to support your claim? Rock & roll is not dead (talk) 14:47, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

The fact he confimed it himself on twitter/X 2607:FEA8:FC10:7991:8EBE:AC83:83BE:E272 (talk) 02:51, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

Where was he convicted? Source? Rock & roll is not dead (talk) 01:46, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

Paragraph lacking any references

The entire statement regarding banning from Twitch, reason for ban, and subsequent demonetization from YouTube has no references. This should be removed or references added. Erin1973 (talk) 15:32, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

Where exactly? There are a good amount of references in the section. Speaking of which, I've been busy with a rewrite of it... 2601AC47 (talk) 23:26, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

Regardless, it's cited well.  Done 2601AC47 (talk) 01:17, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

Appears it has been fixed since I submitted this. Erin1973 (talk) 02:29, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Dr Disrespect/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: 2601AC47 (talk · contribs) 21:49, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: Ca (talk · contribs) 14:23, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Hi, I will be reviewing this. Ca ^{talk to me!} 14:23, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

From a quick skim

• Lead is too short compared to the length of the article. I recommend adding mention of his side ventures and his streaming persona
• In June 2024, former Twitch employees disclosed that his ban was due to sexting with a minor using Twitch's Whisper feature in 2017 Clarify or remove the mention of "Whispher feature"
• It mixed clips of him trash talking over footage of gameplay with real-life footage of him in costume as Dr Disrespect, Clarify "Dr Disrepect" here refers to a persona, not the person himself.
• ...sparked criticism around the sale of "Founder's Access" NFTs. Wikilink at "Founder's Access" NFTs is WP:ASTONISHing since it targets a generic article about a blockchain game.
• YouTube suspended Beahm from the platform's partner program and demonetized his channel. Clarify or find a wikilink for "demonetized". Its use in YT is different from its general use.
• Overall, the sourcing looks alright, and the negative WP:BLP claims look to be well-sourced. I will be performing a more through review later, spotchecking and looking out for WP:NPOV issues 👍.

I apologize for the delay; I did not have time to review this article. I believe I will be able to do the spotchecks this weekend. Ca ^{talk to me!} 11:26, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

You're welcome to do so at your earliest convenience / when available. Take your time. 2601AC47 (talk) 19:16, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

Second go

• Replace Distractify source, unreliable for BLP [2]
• The studio's mission is to develop a "day-zero" community experience where players might decide on "feature prioritization, pivotal design decisions, and fuel innovation in the shooter genre" This reads confusing. I have know ide what "day zero" community means and the quote looks like standard business buzz-speak. Recommend paraphrasing.
• Per WP:CSECTION, controversy sections are discouraged. However, as per the essay, the subject is now primarily notable for his minor-sexting controversy. So I believe it is WP:NPOV in this case.

• In hindsight, the "career" section only contains info about his early career. I feel as if the "Controversy" section could be a subheading under the "Career" section

• After reading over the sources and the article. I disagree with the part where it says Beahm acknowledged the nature of his ban, and characterized the messages as "inappropriate". in the lead. His full quote is ‘leaned too much in the direction of being inappropriate’, and even that statement was deleted by him, elements which retrospective sources like [3] emphasized.
• You should add the fact that he got paid in full after going through arbitration after the text The legal dispute was eventually resolved in 2022, with neither party admitting wrongdoing and "moving on". [4]

Spotchecks

• ✓ Pass Claim He later acknowledged sending messages that he claimed "sometimes leaned too much in the direction of being inappropriate"; that statement was removed in August, and he tweeted afterwards that "we have lots to talk about" is verified by the two sources.
• ✗ Fail Yohan 2017 does not verify that the moustache's name "Slick Daddy".
• ✗ Fail Kaser 2021 does not verify the figure "2 million". Also it should mention Ember Sword is a crypto game since Dr. Respect seems to be engaged in that space.
• Win.gg should not be used for WP:BLPs per [5]
• ✓ PassIn December 2017, he confessed on a livestream to having cheated on his wife, and he stopped streaming for several months before returning in February 2018 is verified by the three sources.
• ✓ PassAdditionally, his partnerships with FanDuel, Midnight Society, Turtle Beach and other sponsors were suspended. is verified. However, its should be clarified Fanduel simply did not renew their partnership, not suspension.
• ✓ PassBeahm claimed in August 2021 that he knew the reason and sued Twitch. is verified.
• ? Maybe Former Twitch employees responded that it was inaccurate, characterizing the messages as "sexually graphic" and that Beahm kept sending these messages even after being made aware the individual was underage Technically verified, but clarify source, it was from an anonymous former employee talking to Rolling Stone.

Reference ideas

From my search, I found few sources that can add finishing details to the article

• [6][7] Bheam's attempt to remonetise his YT channel
• [8] Response video on YT with angry denial of accusations

Copyright

• Images are appropriately licensed. The lead image appears to be an original photo, according to reverse image search results on Tineye.
• WP:Earwig returns no concerns.

On hold

There were some spotchecks that failed, so make sure the sources of the article verify its content. Some points are awaiting improvement. When the above issues are fixed I will be promoting this article. Good job! 👍