Talk:Diablo IV

Class name

Change Sorceress to Sorcerer? Classes are not gender-bound.TerryHeyBleeper (talk) 05:14, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

No, we shouldn't do that. The sources say the name of the class is Sorceress. Useight (talk) 17:27, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Worth noting the in-game text says "Sorcerer" 2404:440E:2A02:B900:C0E4:8D25:6DC5:226D (talk) 22:29, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Release date

I don't know how this should be changed, but in the top section "A release date has not been announced by Blizzard Entertainment; however, some estimates predict the release some time during 2021.[4]" The latest estimate are looking at 2022 at the earliest, based on a quote from the last Activision-Blizzard earning call that "2022 will be a big year for Blizzard" with a potential of 2023 if it takes as long to develop as Diablo 3.

"We are also making clear progress in our other initiatives to expand the scale of the other key franchises in our portfolio, which are set to drive further growth next year and beyond. At Blizzard in particular, our teams are hard at work from Diablo VI, Overwatch 2 and multiple mobile payers. We have further bolstered head count on key franchises supporting the team's plans to follow these ambitious titles with compelling content that sustains Blizzard's communities over the long term.

The pipeline is progressing really well, and we anticipate that 2022 will be a great year for Blizzard. To achieve these plans, we will continue to invest in growing creative talent across our key franchises, through efficiencies as we continue to better leverage the talent, expertise and scale of our business units."

--NYPhoenixGI (talk) 22:36, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

References

"our teams are hard at work from Diablo VI". Did you mean "Diablo IV"? "VI" means "7". "IV" means "4". L10nM4st3r (1) (talk) 23:14, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

Actually VI is 6. And did you have something constructive to add, or what? -- Fyrael (talk) 05:49, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

Oh, sorry about that! Thanks for correcting me :)! And no, I had nothing constructive to add... Sorry for wasting your time. L10nM4st3r (1) (talk) 11:20, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

there is 5 classes

though only 4 classes is currently known, there willl be 5 at launch. that can be confirmed from the official website that shows the classes. there is 5 people there, though one is only partially visible, standing between the barbarian and sorceress. 84.212.107.130 (talk) 21:26, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

We don't know what will be available at launch and I've fixed the wording in that section to reflect that. -- Fyrael (talk) 21:36, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

There is a 5 Classes. There is the Barbarian, Rouge, Druid, Necromancer, and Scorcerer. Over5help550 (talk) 21:43, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

There is a 5 Classes. There is the Barbarian, Rouge, Druid, Necromancer, and Scorcerer. Over5help550 (talk) 21:43, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

Release date(s)

Several IP editors have wanted this article to indicate that the release date varies by time zone (both in the lead and in the infobox). I understand this is quite common in games today and I do not know how other articles handle it. To me, the first release date is the one to list. Opinions? —DIYeditor (talk) 11:09, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

The official release date as stated by Blizzard is June 5, 4pm PST. So we put June 5. -- ferret (talk) 13:27, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

All major outlets have reported June 6 as the official release date. Even the website being cited here says "Are you ready for June 6", and follows that up by stating the timezone in which the game will launch. All official major publications have reported June 6 including Blizzard, so there is no reason to retain June 5 as this article's release date. Venky64 (talk) 16:16, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

@Venky64 Are you sure about that? Cause the article says Subsequently Blizzard clarified that it would be released on starting on June 5, with early access starting on June 1, depending on time zone., sourced to this announcement, which states The official launch for Diablo IV begins on June 5 at 4 p.m. PDT.. And also like... it very much did. -- ferret (talk) 16:24, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

And if you want secondary sources, these all say June 5 as well, backing up the official statement. And this one denotes that the game actually went live on June 5. As do others. So hard to see how "all major outlets" didn't report June 5. Most reported both, accounting for the time zone differences. -- ferret (talk) 16:48, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

I see, thank you! I was not aware of these listings previously. Even so, these are all the **times** the game will go up, and not their actual officially announced release date. I had a similar case with Sniper Elite 5 two years ago where the time the game went live often differed by a few hours when compared to the "official" release date, which is really the only one that should be listed. The "time gone live" and "announced release date in all the PR/marketing material for general use" are distinct these days, whereas in prior years there would be an official distinction, ie, this game is launching one day in North America and the next in Europe, when the timezone was the only thing that set them apart. I was advised to follow what was presented in general use marketing material for consumers only. Venky64 (talk) 12:08, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

Every single release date on Wikipedia suffers from the time zone question. The earliest available date is appropriate, especially in this case where reliable sources clearly stated that date as well. -- ferret (talk) 13:51, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

Questioning the validity of the $666 million revenue claim

This information is mentioned twice on the page, but the only source cited does not specifically support the claim. The article merely states that sales "have surpassed" the mark, and even notes it as a nod to the game's theme. Additionally, the Wikipedia entry states that this milestone occurred five days after launch, yet the cited article was published seven days post-launch. Unless there are more meaningful and verifiable sources that detail these figures (such as the sales specifically being between $666 million and $667 million for a significant period on a particular date) this information could be considered misleading at best, or potentially an instance of dark marketing at worst.

mozzribo (talk) 21:12, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

According to the edit history, this was already changed once and then reverted, with the following reasoning:

• curprev 13:31, 18 June 2024‎ 217.110.77.70 talk‎  65,515 bytes −84‎  Claim that the game made $666 million within the first 5 days is both unsourced and is across a completely arbitrary time frame, so not worthy of note beyond "humour" of 666. undo Tags: Manual revert Reverted
• curprev 15:14, 18 June 2024‎ Ferret talk contribs‎  65,599 bytes +84‎  Reverted 1 edit by 217.110.77.70 (talk): Oh, its definitely a funny marketing stunt, but it is sourced in the Sales section. We have no other figure avialable so we're stuck with their joke. Joke or not, its an official figure. undothank Tags: Twinkle Undo Reverted

The real source is here:

https://investor.activision.com/news-releases/news-release-details/diablor-iv-crosses-666-million-sell-through-within-five-days

However the more realistic figure has been published since:

https://investor.activision.com/news-releases/news-release-details/activision-blizzard-announces-second-quarter-2023-financial

It makes more sense to have the more realistic, later figure than to have a "joke" on the Wikipedia entry. The contested claims can be seen as prioritising marketing over factual accuracy. mozzribo (talk) 21:45, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

Cheeky press release or not, it's not an inaccurate claim. It sold more than 666 million, and that's what they chose to announce and it is the figure we have to work with. I previously reverted this because the removal was simply incorrect, claiming it was unsourced. In the 2nd quarter 2023, I've searched on "Diablo" but cannot see any new figure actually given, though several percentage increases are stated without a figure. If you can point to the actual hard cash statement in that report, it could be included. The only figure I spotted for sure was a claim of 10 million players, but we already have a later source for 12 million. -- ferret (talk) 04:49, 18 August 2024 (UTC)