Talk:Dead Rising 2

Character Clarification is Needed

References to the previous game's characters should be explained as not everyone reading this page will know the previous game's characters by name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.173.125.183 (talk) 14:12, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Not a rumor

"A source close to Canadian developer Blue Castle Games has told Eurogamer that the studio is making a sequel to Dead Rising." That's not a rumor. That's a leak. JAF1970 (talk) 18:57, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Until there press release stating that DR 2 exist the article should be redirected. --SkyWalker (talk) 18:59, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Learn something about journalism. This is NOT a rumor - this is a leak from an undisclosed source to a prominent news site saying, "Yes, we're doing it." Leaks are news items on embargoed topics, rumors are speculation. There is no speculation here. You may Wikipedia:Requests for mediation JAF1970 (talk) 19:02, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

So what?. The game is not confirmed by Capcom. There is not enough information for the article to exist. --SkyWalker (talk) 19:05, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't have the bloody time to request for mediation for a silly matter. --SkyWalker (talk) 19:06, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

You're wrong - Capcom did not deny it when asked point blank. They said "no comment". JAF1970 (talk) 19:07, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

PS. Eurogamer did not title the article: "Blue Castle making Dead Rising 2?". They titled it "Blue Castle making Dead Rising 2" period. This is not a rumor, it's a leak. JAF1970 (talk) 19:09, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

I did not say they deny it. I said they have said nothing. "no comment" means nothing it is a usual term by them. --SkyWalker (talk) 19:16, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

That's bullshit JAF. It's a rumour, I know the blogging school of which states that "all leaks are facts", and that "we're all journalists now", might state otherwise, but it's wrong. An anonymous leak without any proof, and no confirmation from anyone, is a rumour. Regardless of whether it's true or not, it is not substantiated. And do you know why Capcom said "no comment"? It's because every single corporation will not respond to rumours. - hahnchen 19:35, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Eurogamer is a blog? The same people who run GamesIndustry.biz? I've been in video game journalism for over a decade, including Computer Games Magazine. Next, you'll tell me the Washington Post was blogging a rumor about the Watergate scandal. (laugh) I suggest you learn what news leak means. (Hint: Not a rumor) JAF1970 (talk) 19:56, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Of course not, the blogging "I'm a journalist too" quote was directed at you, and was nothing to do with Eurogamer or Watergate. And yes, until confirmed, leaks are pure speculation. Deep Throat didn't prove anything, he led them in the right direction. Leaks happen every day, hedge funds "leak" information every day to send stock prices going the way they want them to. A leak went around lately about Sony merchandise being stopped in transit to Circuit City due to their lack of credit - http://kotaku.com/5073448/sony-merch-bound-for-circuit-city-makes-u+turn-%5Bupdated%5D . Only there's no proof and there are other more viable reasons.

You'll find that other sources have rightly reported this leak as a rumour, http://kotaku.com/5079300/someone-else-says-dead-rising-2-in-development-at-blue-castle, because an unnamed source can't exactly confirm a game, no matter what shitty blogs with no professional credentials might say. (laughs - I was going to hyper link the word "laughs" to gamestooge, but its on the spam blacklist, which is even funnier) - hahnchen 20:13, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

The funny thing is - leak is not rumor. Ask anyone in journalism, politics, etc. As for GameStooge, it's not supposed to be on blacklist, and they keep saying they'll repair it. The reason it's on there is due to a mistake. JAF1970 (talk) 18:40, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

JAF1970 wins this argument. 124.187.150.157 (talk) 07:46, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

No. Just because the game exists doesn't make his point valid. Here, right now I'll make a "leak" myself. "I work for EA and they've licensed Duke Nukem and are currently developing Duke Nukem Forever." If someone adds that to the DNForever article they should be shot. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Telanis (talk • contribs) 17:26, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

That's not a leak, it's something you just made up. A leak IS a fact. But you're right in saying that a leak does not constitute enough proof to create an article on Wikipedia, since WP deals in verifiablility, not in truth. That doesn't matter anymore though, the game was announced eons ago. --142.213.254.2 (talk) 21:05, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Trailer

What does the it say in the Japanese text under the Dead Rising 2 in the trailer? Also, the name "Isabelle Heeds" is stressed as responsible for the virus. JAF1970 (talk) 18:05, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Isabella -Keyes-, Carlito's sister from the first game.-75.130.171.0 (talk) 18:51, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Ahhhh... hm. Not sure if it's enough to post as a "confirmed character", since they're only referring to her. JAF1970 (talk) 18:54, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

No --- she discovered Zombrex. 58.164.65.225 (talk) 02:12, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Zombrex?

Ummm, saw this in the trailer, next to what seemed to be a wikipedia logo. Is this supposed to be a special deal between wiki and Capcom, or is it just a shortcut to this page? SSBBchamp (talk) 22:16, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

I was hoping it would be a viral wiki page but I got rerouted here so it seems like it's a short cut-24.6.162.203 (talk) 02:35, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

They just used it as an effect-- its real IN the game. 58.164.65.225 (talk) 02:12, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Survival Horror?!

Errr... why is this and DR1 put up as survival horror. Its extremely easy, and its not made for survival horror. Its made for humor. 58.164.65.225 (talk) 02:12, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Check the survival horror page. It fits. Yes, DR has a lot of humour in (I have to find that lawnmower), but you're fighting thousands of zombies with little ammo. Compare to Generic Shooter 3. Generic Shooter 3: Dukka-dukka-dukka DIE, YOU ZOMBIES! Dead Rising: Thwack-thwack-thwack ARGH BASEBALL BAT IS BROKEN RUN AWAY! That says it all really. --Thejadefalcon (talk) 09:24, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Er... you're really trying to survive by spitting fire onto zombies... Guns have no purpose as they are weak. But seriously... remove the horror bit... thats bulls***. Err and also I'm the same person, albeit different IP. The mall has lots of items, and basically you can kill an entire horde with melee attacks JUMP! KICK! Knocked third of horde away and killed a third of that.. NECK CRUSH! Jump! Human Whirlwind! Disembowel! KICK AGAIN THEN WHIRLWIND AGAIN! Done.60.228.40.54 (talk) 04:15, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

And... also, they stopped being used (baseball bats) since people found the sword shop in North Plaza (unlimited supply), got the Real Mega Buster from Zombie Genocide, and err the mentioned above melee attacks and the chainsaws spawning at the ride in Wonderland Plaza (is that its name) once you have finished the Out of Control scoop... Also, books can be found which increase items lifespan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.187.150.157 (talk) 07:45, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Actually, I did use the bats even after I had the katana. I found them funny. They make a wonderful 'klonk' sound. The guns are useful if you use them correctly. If you have a good enough aim, you can just stop a horde in its track with the pistol. And 'Real Mega Buster'? What's that (I haven't had time to earn that achievement yet)? But still, waltz around in the Maintenence Tunnels with one pistol and tell me that's not survival horror. ... Maybe you're just playing it on Easy (does DR actually have difficulty levels? It's been too long since I've played it). --Thejadefalcon (talk) 11:18, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

LOL! You've hardly discovered anything! Mini chainsaws can cut a swath through the horde. There is no difficulty levels! Are you level ten? I'm lvl 50 - did you even remember what I was talking about melee attacks? RMB is mega man's weapon (you can find a false one with tennis ball projectiles) with 200 ammo and can down any boss in a few hits. Also, why would you 'waltz' around there with a pistol? You can't be trapped -- zombie ride basically propels all difficulty away. Also -- if you like funny sounds, then goto Paradise Plaza and goto the guitar shop -- there's V-wing guitars with funny sounds. And, also, with books most items will last another 24 hours (2 real hours). Additionally, you won't be able to go to Maintenance without noticing a bike or car there. You'll ram over zombies, Otis will inform you about a key, you'll go there, find a SMG spot, and go out again. Really, if you're underpowered you'll only go there again with the bomb-run -- if you got the key, you'll go out of the security room and go to the tunnel entrance in Paradise, and there's a white car there. Carlito has his truck and will chuck explosives at you, however the main point -- ITS NOT MANDATORY! Really, you choose to fail this case, get ending F, no achievements, or errr miss The Last Resort and you get a lower ending which still gives you 20 points etc so much to counter the falseness of Wikipedia 60.229.168.130 (talk) 10:10, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

I think I'm level 48, but I can't remember. But I can't be bothered to get chainsaws et all if my current weapons are okay. I waltz around in the maintence halls as a test of skill. Get as many headshots as possible while totally surrounded. I rarely use Zombie Ride and the cars are boring. But still, this isn't the topic. Zombies equal horror. You have to survive. Glue the words together and you have a genre. --Thejadefalcon (talk) 14:02, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Congratulations you've just accepted a harsh counter -- Ok Half Life 2, Half Life Episode One Half Life Episode Two, Halo: Combat Evolved, Halo 2, Halo 3, The Sims, etc they're survival horror. They have surviving (Sims has a fire that kills people) and Zombies, or undead, parasites etc. Also, just remember that Dead Rising is a humor game = no horror. Resident Evil may have been horror with humor (err... haven't played it yet hope it gets XBLA), but this is generally zombies with humor. Also, a skills test does not define a game's genre. Plus, horror survive and survive horror is not a genre... Capcom's Resident Evil 5's main battle is something you may argue to be Survival H, but its more like Intelligent Shooter where you conserve ammo on Veteran (that is, before you buy new weapons, get infinite ammo, etc). Now, back to the point -- your play style is more like Suicide Bash-em-up. 124.179.172.49 (talk) 03:37, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

No seriously, this bullsh** needs to stop. BioShock? What the F***? Resident Evil 5?! Get a life. Seriously!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.179.172.49 (talk) 03:42, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

DEVIL MAY CRY?! WHAT?! WHAT?! WHAT?! WHAT?! DEVIL MAY CRY? "Splendid timing! You admins are just in time for the fireworks show! BOOM! *laugh*" -- Ricardo Irving WATCH —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.179.172.49 (talk) 03:49, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Looks like you need a time out. For a start, the BioShock article says this: “The game incorporates elements found in role-playing and survival horror games.” It has a citation. Do you want me to find a citation for Dead Rising as well? Well, I can't, but only because all the websites are blocked on this PC. Search 'Dead Rising survival horror' on Google. Everything I could see with only one exception (which seemed to be you) said it was a 'survival horror.' Survival horror is changing. Stop going berserk. --Thejadefalcon (talk) 13:09, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

No, several magazines and such don't think its Survival Horror or what. Left 4 Dead, uh...I'll let it pass as "Survival", but not Horror. No but seriously, DMC, no. No. "Elements found in Survival Horror and Role-Playing etc", so, Survival Horror has a save system! Brilliant! BioShock does! While some have been scared at certain moments at BioShock, its not a horror game, really. If all the "websites are blocked", are you some person living in your mums basement, or underage? Oh wait, do you go to the library to get at the internet computer, and it has a filter? Dead Rising is stated by the developers on the official European site to be a survival-horror game, but of course many other magazines and such disagree. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.219.137.55 (talk) 10:08, 24 June 2009

You know, that could probably class as a personal attack. Does it really matter who or what I am as long as I try to improve Wikipedia? I could be a Vulcan and it wouldn't/shouldn't matter. In fact, let's play as a Vulcan to respond to your comment. Logically, if a developer says what a game is attempting to be, that is what the game is. I have seen magazines and online sources claim that a game is a third-person shooter when it is anything but. Even if the game is not good at being a survival horror, it still is if the developers claim it is. Eragon isn't a very good fantasy book, but it is still regarded as a fantasy book by it's author. Logically, the same rule should apply here. And yes, I live with my mother, but that's because she's severely disabled and I have to look after her. I presume you would not understand the meaning of the word responsibility? Yes, I go to the library. I read, you see. Remember, Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations. This is Sarek of Vulcan, out. --Thejadefalcon (talk) 12:09, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Expanding on my comment: Left 4 Dead is survival horror. Maybe you didn't read this link. Things never remain the same and games evolve more rapidly than most things do. Survival horror is in the midst of a massive change from previous generations. I must confess to being utterly bemused by your savegame comment. If a game doesn't have a savegame system, then it is going to be regarded as utterly awful and for good reason. Going back to my comment about a developer's word being final, let's define that some more. Say Nintendo and Game Freak were to state that Pokémon... Geode was a survival horror game (yes, it's an odd analogy, but stick with me). Game reviewers would say how good it was at that task. If it was an awful survival horror game, then they could say what they believe it should be labelled as, but it is still labelled as a survival horror until the developers state otherwise. I personally wouldn't have thought that some games should be labelled as an action adventure game, but they are and I accept that. So should you. Sarek of Vulcan, closing the channel. --Thejadefalcon (talk) 15:41, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Of course I did, L4D can be a survival game sometimes, but its not made for horror. For example, while Valve in commentary have this quote "terrifying world", X360 World says otherwise. Of course, Halo Wars is also a Crowd-Bashing game. Many people hate Wikipedia for its rules...and such. Wikis are vastly superior, as they allow for: Detail, Original Research, Speculation, Theories, The Truth without Sources, Opinion, and much more. Attack or no attack, by talking as a Klingon, you're pretty much accelerating my "attack" above. Survival Horror: Survival is where you are desperate, weak, underpowered, and have little ammo, and ammo conversation and fleeing is important. But if Capcom bills SFIV as an RTS, will you list that its an RTS? No. No no no no. Wikipedia allows for false information, for that reason, and such. Eragon is...a fantasy book. Horror, is not zombies, but scares, terror. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.51.113.252 (talk • contribs) 09:13, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Whether or not the Dead Rising series is a true survival horror is not our concern. That would be dealing with the notion of "The Truth" and Wikipedia does not deal in truth. We deal in verifiability. If we have reliable sources stating that Dead Rising is a survival horror (i.e. [1]), we should report it as such. –xeno^talk 14:25, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Metacritic, MobyGames, and IGN have Dead Rising as survival horror. Got any reliable sources that refute it? —LOL ^T/_C 01:22, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Are you repeating the same LINES over and OVER again? And is all you do now reply to my posts? Hmm, standing there taking photos of zombies...thats not survival horror...rofl. Directly ask them and they will probably change their answer if you talk to them about more stuff. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AgoINAgo (talk • contribs) 11:39, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Are you repeatedly failing to grasp the same POLICIES over and OVER again? And is all you do now ignore the policies "in a fuckhole full of idiots"? Hmm, three reliable sources that say Dead Rising is survival horror, none that refute it, and you're still trying to assert your opinion on the genre...rofl. If you're so sure that "they will probably change their answer", then go "talk to them about more stuff" and come back when they've removed "survival horror" from their Dead Rising articles. —LOL ^T/_C 16:27, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Of course, I just logged in because someone on a Warcraft III website started flaming people...and he said his password was Ago...and his name was AgoINAgo...so I logged on as him...and OXM label it as "Action Adventure". —Preceding unsigned comment added by AgoINAgo (talk • contribs) 03:45, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

...and this is properly noted in the infobox. –xeno^talk 13:11, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

...and this does not say anything about the survival horror genre. —LOL ^T/_C 19:07, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

...and this is stupid. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.184.104.45 (talk) 00:32, 14 July 2009

... and would you kindly sign your posts? It's not that difficult. There's a button for it. And I'm going to quote PC Gamer when I find the relevant article, possibly even edit the survival horror page to account for the quote I just remembered. --Thejadefalcon (talk) 15:30, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

... and don't make a BioShock reference. Also, that is simply a few random critics opinions. They don't state their reasons to why DR is a SH, etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.130.224.213 (talk) 05:03, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm not. I'm making a Stalker reference. Here’s PC Gamer’s views on survival horror, as written by Kieron Gillon in his S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl review in issue 173, page 90. Even if you’re allergic to policies which are in place for a reason (and if you are, why even come here?), this easily counters every comment you have made so far.

“Survival horror is one of those genres that confuse. The phrase is one of gaming’s most evocative, but what does it actually mean? First-person shooter? You’re in the first-person and you shoot. Like, obv.

Survival horror games are drawn together by an ambience rather than mechanism: isolated characters in a threatening situation, with scant resources to fend off foes. But, really, that isn’t actually anything different to straight horror. The phrase ‘survival horror’ actually evokes the bleakness of films such as The Omega Man or 28 Days Later. Not merely the pressure chamber of Resident Evil and friends, but something where ‘survival’ means more than just ‘the ability to put a shotgun round in a zombie’s head.’

Allow me to introduce you to S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: the bravest, most futurist survival horror game since System Shock 2.”

Does that convince you in any way? What with you putting more faith in game reviewers that game developers for genres, you’d be a bit, nay, a lot hypocritical to say otherwise. --Thejadefalcon (talk) 10:19, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Please prove that they are "simply a few random critics opinions", and then sign your talk page comments. We don't require reliable sources to elaborate on everything they say. —LOL ^T/_C 16:02, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia always has many people to disagree. So I'll join the argument.

1) You can equip survivors with shotguns.

2) You can jump and ride over zombies' backs.

3) 'scant'. Yes, so that means over 250 weapons and several vehicles.

4) 'means more then'. Yes, it means singlehandedly killing countless millitary bots and special ops soldiers. And surviving a tank with only two.

5) 'bleakness'. Yes, that means having a nice atmosphere after just walking past a few zombies after the first encountering, and having a comfortable noise in the safe-room. And taking photos of zombies. And taking photos of cultists. (Moan) Moaners... (Moan) 08:26, 5 September 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moaners (talk • contribs)

Ssh! You'll bring him back! We finally got rid of him! Ssh! --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 14:58, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

To be honest, self-justifying the fact that survival horror is changing does not really explain anything; it's a future-fact syllogism that doesn't work here, since the "new and improved" survival horror is really just a compromise genre. The definition of survival horror hasn't changed, only the interpretation of it (appearently to Capcom, survival horror meant action-shooter with vague horror references in its flagship Resident Evil series, so other companies and development teams followed suit; their philosophy is to pigeonhole survival horror as action-shooter because it features firearms in some capacity, but they and others fail to grasp what survival horror actually means as a medium). Someone above already explained what survival horror means, so I'll just end by saying that while Dead Rising and its sequel are nowhere near the pinnacles of the RE1 GC REmake (how DID they just abandon the perfection of the REmake and lose the entire niche of the series with RE4?) and other survival horror series (Silent Hill, Dead Space, etc), it still possesses at least a small number of actual survival horror elements, especially when compared to RE4/5 or L4D. Also, what the 'ell happened to this Discussion section? Half of it is back-and-forth that you would expect in a regular online forum and the like (along with accompanying nonsense internet memes), and the other half is soaking in aggressive comments and rebuttals.

Stop poking the thread, just in case he comes back again. --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 13:08, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

New official trailer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcILgDEPu2k 12.199.45.138 (talk) 13:34, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I laughed. Loudly. In a library. Do you think you can find it from somewhere more official than YouTube? --Thejadefalcon (talk) 15:54, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Well, it has the CapCom logo, so it seems legit. Strong Intelligent (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 19:26, 28 April 2009 (UTC).

A 'more official' link: http://kotaku.com/5230733/first-full-dead-rising-2-trailer or http://www.insidegamer.nl/pc/deadrising2/videos/10302 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.199.45.138 (talk) 22:51, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. It's just my experience is that stuff on YouTube is probably unreliable. Yes, it looked too good for a fake, but I've learned not to assume anything. --Thejadefalcon (talk) 11:45, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Photography

While it would fit the apparent lack of Frank West, is there a citation for the lack of a photography mechanic? --Thejadefalcon (talk) 10:01, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

http://kotaku.com/5232765/dead-rising-2-handyman-cameraman
"Dead Rising 2 will not have photography. Capcom's Keiji Inafune was pretty clear about that when I spoke with him last week" So at the moment that's a reliable 'no'. I'm not sure how to insert sources yet, though. Can someone else?--F4M (talk) 16:55, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

I thought Kotaku was regarded as unreliable? Well, I can't do anything anyway. I'm not too sure how to add citations yet. --Thejadefalcon (talk) 09:48, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

 Done Got the cite up for you. ^TH1RT3EN _{talk ♦ contribs} 00:10, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! --Thejadefalcon (talk) 11:01, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

PS2/Wii version actually been confirmed or just rumour?

The platform section and the beginning of the article claims the game will be released for the PlayStation 2 and the Nintendo Wii, yet the web page provided as a source implies there aren't versions for those two consoles.

1st May Edit - Nevermind. It seems someone's fixed it, thanks. LuigiEspadachin (talk) 14:19, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Santa Cabeza

I just reverted this. Is there a citation for Chuck Greene not being involved in Santa Cabeza? Because being "somehow involved in the zombie apocalypse" is a ridiculous thing to say as everyone in the city is "somehow involved." I have no clue if Chuck is linked to Santa Cabeza or not, but for now, I'll leave it saying that it is until someone can come up with a citation either way. --Thejadefalcon (talk) 09:52, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

-Maybe we can say it some other way, but Chuck Greene definitely was not involved in the Santa Cabeza incident. Not even Frank West was involved in the Santa Cabeza incident. You say yourself that you're not sure he was there so you should DEFINITELY not be putting that in there173.29.225.0 (talk) 03:25, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, now that I think about it, what the hell was I talking about? But it was either my revert or deleting the entire sentence. --Thejadefalcon (talk) 11:54, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

I dunno why they went with a new character. There was still untold stories with Frank's character (unless they will revist Frank's character in another sequel) Barretto24 (talk) 06:55am 29th September 2009 (GMT)

I don't know why you think it matters to Wikipedia. --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 10:06, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

March 30th, 2010

Gamestop has started taking pre-orders for DR2 with this date listed. Can anyone confirm this? Dengarde ► Complaints 05:30, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Can't use vendors for reliable sources, nor is the fact they are taking pre-orders significant. --MASEM (t) 05:24, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm well aware, but Gamestop has a history of not allowing pre-orders untill an actual date has been confirmed. I find it odd that that they would actually start at this point if theres no actual date. Just throwing it out.Dengarde ► Complaints 05:30, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Still, even if they are usually good, they're still considered unreliable unless they're backed up. Besides, I'm not too certain about 2010. It sounds a bit too far off to be honest, judging by what the game looks like. But what do I know? --Thejadefalcon (talk) 10:52, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Fair enough. Though knowing games these days, March 2010 sounds about right. Hell, with as much as they've shown, who knows how much they have done. Dengarde ► Complaints 14:18, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

I thought they'd shown quite a lot... maybe I dreamed it. I do that sometimes. But the things I've seen look like release quality. While I doubt they've finished it all, I just thought that they would merely need to finish a few environments (or not finish, in the case of the first game's North Plaza), fine tuning, beta testing and then fine tuning again. --Thejadefalcon (talk) 14:23, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

If it come out March 2010 then why is it listed as November 2009 on here?--97.101.58.118 (talk) 17:41, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Because some fool vandalised it (or read a placeholder date) and it got buried by another vandal. Thanks for pointing it out. --Thejadefalcon (talk) 16:04, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Moved to talk

This quote, with a passing reference to DR2 has little to do with the game:

Chris Kramer stated:

"Capcom’s kind of on a 30 year high right now, it’s a pretty amazing place to be. Between everything we’ve got going right now, between the launch of Street Fighter IV and Resident Evil 5, and our big titles for next year, Lost Planet 2 and Dead Rising 2."

Added.[2]

So I moved it to talk. Calendar (talk) 20:40, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

It did once have meaning (saying that it wasn't going to be released in 2009 (which I'd forgotten about when I blathered above in the above section)), but it must have been edited out. --Thejadefalcon (talk) 09:44, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Moved to talk also: jacket

OXM recently announced that Chuck's sports jacket is made by a sportswear company called "Ijiek", which is Keiji Inafune's first name spelled backwards. Dead Rising 2 gameplay was shown for the first time at CAPTIVATE '09 (the CAPCOM Convention).<*ref name="Kramez's Blog">CAPTIVATE09: it's on, Monte Carlo style! </ref> The article cited does not mention a jacket or Keiji. I will try to find a source for this.

Added here.

Citation for another sentence which was added.[3] This sentence was deleted by me, but the Kramez's Blog cite wasn't. Calendar (talk) 01:18, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

I searched Xbox magazine: no references to Ijiek.[4]

No reliable sources mention the jacket.[5]

Calendar (talk) 01:36, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

How 'bout using your eyes? It's all over the screenshots out there... --67.70.101.168 (talk) 22:14, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Official site

Official site for deadrising 2? Deadrising2.com is not the official site. Calendar (talk) 00:53, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

IGN take an in depth look at the Dead Rising 2 Captivate 09 trailer. They break it down frame by frame noting even the smallest details,

2 trailers thus far one a test trailer. Calendar (talk) 01:05, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Stacey Forsythe

How come the article doesn't say anything about this new character? Stacey Forsythe I can't seem to find any source outside Fangoria, but I'm looking. If someone finds one, we might want to add this. Dengarde ► Complaints 00:00, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Capcom will reveal it in due time. --SkyWalker (talk) 12:12, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Looks like fake bullshit for Dead Rising. Betting that she is a physchopath in DR2.

Pretty sure Capcom gave an interview where they revealed something of the role of Stacey. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Telanis (talk • contribs) 17:30, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

I believe she's the girl that was in the E3 2010 demo. Look it up on gametrailers. (I had to repost this, since some guy thought he knew better than me and deleted my comment.) --142.213.254.2 (talk) 21:27, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Info for the Plot section

Someone should write in the plot section the nature of the 3-day time limit: it is the time before the military comes to arrest/kill Chuck since they believe he is responsible for a terrorist act which led a horde of zombie to escape from the Terror is Reality studios, or something along those lnes. It's in a video on Gametrailers.com, but I can't get to the source since I'm at work. Can someone do it? --142.213.254.2 (talk) 15:58, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

                    Okay.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Joonie K (talk • contribs) 12:50, 25 July 2010 (UTC) 

Unsourced release dates for Case Zero

Stop it. Seriously. If you have a source for it, I'll be happy to see it on Wikipedia, but otherwise it has no reason, and no right, to be here. Thanks. --142.213.254.2 (talk) 14:05, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Dead Rising 2 Zombie Count

To the man changing it to 6000, it is in fact 7000. My sources are more up to date than yours. Mine come from E3 2010 while yours come from GDC 2009. Please do not change it. I did this time add the sources. It is 7000. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Joonie K (talk • contribs) 12:42, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Hm... Looks like the second source doesn't work. Youtube is usually unreliable, but that's a Gamespot video, and if I ain't mistaken this is Keiji Inafune himself, right? I don't have any audio here, so I can't hear what they say. Do they say DR2 will have 7,000 zombies on-screen at once? If they do, that's fine. Thanks for posting this source. Do you think you can fix the second one? (If it works for you, I suppose it's just that lousy workstation I'm on playing tricks on me again.) --142.213.254.2 (talk) 14:28, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, they do. That's why when I heard it I was surprised since I was hearing 6000. Also, on Capcom's Facebook there was something recent about 7000 zombies. Also, the man's name is Shinahara and he worked on the first ga,e I beieve so he should be really close to development with Dead Rising 2. Joonie K (talk) 15:36, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Oh, I thought that was Inafune. Ah well, that's good anyway. --142.213.254.2 (talk) 16:16, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

It's been mentioned on gamasutra that the game is only having 3000 due to not being able to tell a difference afterwards, the engine can still support 7000 though [6] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.151.77.123 (talk) 11:31, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Aaah, interesting. Maybe that should be mentioned in the article. --142.213.254.2 (talk) 15:24, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Dead Rising 2 Plot and Retail

I had posted the the main plot of Dead Rising 2 and it's multiple editions but someone has changed it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Joonie K (talk • contribs) 16:10, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

That Eik Corell is really hasty in deleting everything he doesn't like... --142.213.254.2 (talk) 16:17, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Per WP:RS, youtube cannot be used as a source, that's why I reverted and found a better one. Eik Corell (talk) 16:25, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Okay, but why did you get rid of the retail versions and the plot update. Joonie K (talk) 16:31, 25 July 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Joonie K (talk • contribs) 16:29, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Ah, didn't mean to touch the plot section. I've restored that info. Eik Corell (talk) 16:37, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Moving my talk page comments out of context. Now you've really done it, Eik. --142.213.254.2 (talk) 16:33, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Yeah but the retail editions are gone and I worked alot on finding the contents of it. Joonie K (talk) 16:46, 25 July 2010 (UTC)Joonie K (talk) 16:41, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

I deleted it because it wasn't sourced, but I've started collecting sources for the section. I'll reinstate it, but with sources. Eik Corell (talk) 16:46, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

I think there's some on IGN, if it helps. --142.213.254.2 (talk) 16:49, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

The retail editions do exist and the reporter was an announced character. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Joonie K (talk • contribs) 16:50, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Cite Problem

Something has gone wrong with the links in the Case Zero area. Joonie K (talk) 18:44, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

"Dirty" tactics

I may have found a reference that would support "They also will be able to prevent other players from scoring by using various forms of "dirty" tactics.", though I don't know if the website is reliable. It's written in a box at the bottom of the page: "Players will compete against each other for the most kills inside an arena filled with the undead and even prevent other players from scoring by using various forms of "dirty" tactics." [7] -- Lemon's Pride (talk) 21:55, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Okay, this confirms the dirty tactics. Wallace from the fictive blog says that killing a tagged zombie can jam the gun of other contestants in the game called Ball Buster. Note: Please don't remove that reference from Wikipedia. It might be a blog, but it is an Official fictive blog. -- Lemon's Pride (talk) 21:21, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Tape It Or Die

Do you guys think the game's fictional blog www.tapeitordie.com is significant enough to be mentioned? --142.213.254.2 (talk) 19:27, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Dead Rising 2 DLC

I'm not sure if I should post this so I'll ask you. I asked the Capcom facebook about a possible Dead Rising 2 DLC series and Capcom did respond saying there will be DLC. Is this good enough to post. Joonie K (talk) 02:08, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

should reviews of Case Zero be included?

This is the reception of Case Zero from the wikia:

deadrisingwiki.com.[8] I

==comedic?== a lot of games have some punch lines, laughter moments, doesnt mean it a a comedy

Interested if wikipedia would want to include some or all of this on this page. All the reviews are referenced. All of the lines with no reviews will be filled in on the wikia and can be filled in here if there is interest. Adamtheclown (talk) 21:45, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

==Reception==

Reviews and awards

Publication	Score	Award
IGN	6.5/10<*ref>Miller, Greg. Dead Rising 2: Case Zero Review Right after this load screen, there's going to be a zombie, IGN, (August 31, 2010).</ref>
Official Xbox Magazine	8.5/10<*ref>Cohen, Corey. Dead Rising 2: Case Zero, Official Xbox Magazine, (September 1, 2010).</ref>
Electronic Gaming Monthly
GameSpy
Game Informer	88/100<*ref>Dead Rising 2: Case 0 Capcom Delivers A Deliciously Light Appetizer, Game Informer</ref>
GameSpot
Edge (magazine)
X-Play
1UP.com	100/100<*ref>Chick, Tom. Dead Rising 2: Case Zero Review Capcom's fitting prologue to the zombie apocalypse, 1UP, (August 31, 2010).</ref>
TeamXbox
Wired	8/10<*ref>Mastrapa, Gus. Review: Dead Rising: Case Zero a Bite-Sized Zombie Massacre, Wired, (August 31, 2010).</ref>
Destructoid	7/10<*ref>Review: Dead Rising 2: Case Zero, Destructoid, (August 31, 2010).</ref>
Compilations of multiple reviews
Game Rankings	8/10<*ref>Dead Rising 2: Case Zero (X360), Gamerankings, (August 31, 2010).</ref>
Metacritic	77/100<*ref>Dead Rising 2: Case Zero Xbox 360, Metacritic, (August 31, 2010).</ref>

(End Adamtheclown)

Removed "combo's" section

Section had poor grammar, had bad form and was not actually part of a paragraph. Xaerun (talk) 02:09, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Case Zero Redirect

Should Case Zero really redirect to this page? It's better known as a medical term. I like vidja games as much as the next guy, but it'd be like making Democracy redirect to the Killing Joke album. 97.96.1.103 (talk) 23:17, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Endings + Plot Discussion

Just wondering, since Case West made Ending A (not giving T.K. Zombrex) canon in a sense. Should ending S still be mentioned in the plot section or should it be removed entirely?

And while were talking about plot should Case West and possibly Case 0 be mentioned in the plot section? 217.18.23.2 (talk) 09:29, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

• There has been much debate about which ending should be deemed canon, but many feel that both could be considered canon (Ending S and Ending A) though Case West obviously picks up from Ending A. Also, Case West and Case Zero should be mentioned somewhere, perhaps in subsections (I haven't actually checked the page, just responding to talk posts). --173.61.86.167 (talk) 18:29, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Off the Record

I think Off the Record should have it's own page. More and more info is being revealed, and it is a full retail game, so I think it should have it's own wikipedia page. Does anyone else agree? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Supernerdybompop42 (talk • contribs) 02:19, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

I do, for what it's worth, but it would be best that if it is spun out whoever does so gets the article built up to a basic standard rather than just leaving a stub. Someoneanother 12:04, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

Well, in order it to not be a stub, the whole story should be evealed first, and the reception, so we should wait of till the game is released,but after that, I think one should be made. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Supernerdybompop42 (talk • contribs) 22:41, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

TBH it will probably happen when the in-depth previews start appearing, the earlier an article created the more it will need editing to bring it up to date and replace what is purported to be happening with what has actually happened. It's just that many will not see the point of it if it's just spun out as a stub and not expanded, but it is a full release and there will be reception, development and other information about it that just won't fit in an article on a separate game. In particular there's going to be meta-discussion about the game's nature, as well as what this means in terms of DR2's 'success' etc. It's not like 'remix' games of this nature are released often these days. Someoneanother 12:58, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

TBH? please don't use acronyms. Igottheconch (talk) 16:11, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

Ok, the launch trailer has been announced. I think it's time to make a full article. I would, but I don't know how to start a brand new article unless you type it in and it says "This does not exist but you can make the page." with a link. And when I type in Dead Rising 2: Off the Record, it redirects here. Supernerdybompop42 20:33, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

When you get redirected, there will be a little blue link just under the article title with "Redirected from yadda yadda yadda". Clicking on that will take you to the redirect page, which you can edit like a regular article.

That said, I would suggest drafting up the article in your userspace (create a page at User:Supernerdybompop42/Off The Record or your personal preference) and developing it fully before using the "Move" function to move your work over the redirect page. Added benefits for this method include being able to get everything together without the risk of having it merged back in or deleted while work is in progress, and you can bring it here for further opinions before making the Great Leap Forward. -- saberwyn 21:02, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

I agree it should be split. It appears like everyone here is waiting for user:somebody else to do it for them, including me. Igottheconch (talk) 16:10, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

Magic happens. Its basically a cut-paste of content from here with a brief intro and mostly-blank infobox. I'll leave it to people who've had a chance to play the game to expand upon the article. -- saberwyn 00:10, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Dead Rising series

Do you think an article, Dead Rising 2 (series), should be made? Me personally, I think so. Dead Rising is a series, with it's many games and info. Yes I do. DynasticAnthony (talk) 05:10, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

Ending A is not canon

It has been announced in a Dead Rising 3 interview that ending S the canonical Dead Rising 2 ending, not ending A. Here is a link to the interview: http://www.gamespot.com/dead-rising-3/videos/dead-rising-3-e3-2013-stage-demo-6410213/

He confirms it around 0:45 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.153.15.37 (talk) 19:37, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

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Downloadable Content - Could Case Zero and Case West get separate articles?

I'm just wondering if it is possible, perchance, that we could do separate articles for both Case Zero and Case West? I think it would be a good idea, because these are like separate games, but linked to this one in a way, and I do believe they have multiple ending as well. Anyone believe it a good idea to make an article of each?GUtt01 (talk) 11:22, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

Mentioning endings in the plot section

The plot section currently sits at over 1800 words, over twice of that recommended in the video-game article guidelines. This is easily fixed by removing the listing of all the endings. Since most of the endings mentioned are minor divergences from the main one, leaving them out other than a cursory mention seems like the best idea. Eik Corell (talk) 22:57, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

Did you check the other Dead Rising wikis? Their plot sections are gigantic, and that didn't stop them. Besides, they include all endings, so if we leave this one without the ending, it'll look weird. 170.79.34.9 (talk) 00:10, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

WP:OTHERSTUFF deals with this - This info being located on other articles or other Wikis is not an argument for keeping it on this one. This is where most other Wikis entries differ from Wikipedia -- They have no guidelines as to what kind of content or detailing thereof is appropriate, which is why game entries on wikis such as Wikia.com are usually excessively detailed; Anything goes there. Eik Corell (talk) 00:55, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

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