Talk:Dave Stewart (baseball)

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Repetoire

What pitches did Dave Stewart throw while he was with the Jays in the early 90s? I would greatly appreciate the repetoire as well as the velocities and (if possible) the pitch trajectory.-Dylan Bradbury 22:49, 12 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

not sure about the jays, but in the late 80s he through a forkball, fastball, and a slider. apparently the forkball, developed after a few years pro, saved his career. his fastball earned him the name "smoke" but i don't know if he ever threw it any faster than about 93. though the teams measured them, pitch speeds weren't as publicized back in those days. Justforasecond 15:05, 13 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks man!-Dylan Bradbury 21:55, 13 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

He used the same repertoire with the Blue Jays as he did in Oakland. About 85-90 percent of his pitches were fastballs and forkballs; he only used the slider as an occasional change of pace. As for what turned his career around, I think it had more to do with finally having a defined role and getting regular work. A lot of times, when a pitcher makes a huge leap forward in mid-career like this, it's as simple as that. The same think happened for David Wells when he stopped being jerked around between starting and relief. Stewart himself has said as much, that Tommy Lasorda and Doug Rader mismanaged him, while Tony LaRussa gave him a defined role and sent him out there every five days to do it. If he'd gotten a fair chance before he was 29, he'd probably be in the Hall of Fame now, but as it was, his productive career is a little too short. Jsc1973 05:01, 2 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

At least twice, on different occasions, I heard Yankee radio announcer John Sterling (THEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Yankees win!!!!!) mention that Stewart was doing some kind of work for Planned Parenthood, which would seem to make him a VERY RARE example of a baseball/football player publicly stating he's pro-choice (and would apparently make Sterling pro-choice as well.) It's not unusual, of course, for other such athletes to hold views consistent of the religious right instead. 216.179.123.198 (talk) 00:20, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Impressive" ERA?:

I omitted the reference to his 1987 ERA of 3.68 being 'impressive'. The league leader, Jimmy Key, had a 2.76 and, in that period, ERAs over 3.00 were considered to be the mark of a mediocre pitcher (this is in the pre-steroids, juiced ball, tiny ballpark era) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.253.190.42 (talk) 19:55, 19 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Arrest

I question using news reports from decades ago. If it was significant, it would appear in more recent sources. Neutrality requires use to provide the same weight as reliable sources, which in this case is apparently missing. TFD (talk) 00:24, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Leopold and Loeb, The Lindbergh Baby, Sputnik, John Glenn orbiting the earth, the Apollo I fire, the Chicago Fire, the St. Valentine's Day Massacre. All notable incidents, none really mentioned today in more recent sources. An incident occurs and was covered at the time it occurred, but because it's not mentioned in recent sources it's not notable nor is it verfiable? That's never been a requirement in Wikipedia. If it's verifiable (even from sources decades ago), it's good enough to be included. -- Winkelvi ● ✉ ✓ 00:35, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Winkelvi. As long as it's neutrally-worded and well-sourced, there's no problem with the arrest being a part of this article. LHM^{ask me a question} 01:48, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It was a fairly significant event in his career and has been mentioned in more recent articles about him also. Spanneraol (talk) 03:30, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

As currently written, it seems overly detailed to me, but that´s my opinion. It sucks a bit that it dominates the personal life section. Make it a section of its own, perhaps? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:31, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm working on a major expansion of the article and I have more to add to his personal life section, but I haven't quite gotten to that yet.Spanneraol (talk) 14:34, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A section of its own would be WP:UNDUE, which would be worse, not better. If the personal life section were expanded, that will help. -- Winkelvi ● ✉ ✓ 16:49, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

1 of the greatest starting pitchers in Major League Baseball history

Dave Stewart is 1 of the greater starting pitchers in the history of Major League Baseball, under the nickname: "Smoke." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mooneyhill165 (talk • contribs) 22:21, 12 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Personal Life

Dave Stewart is not currently married. Though there are some media assumptions that he was/is, there is no actual marriage other than to his ex wife with whom he has 2 children. Search for a marriage certificate to Lonnie Murray (which would be public record) and there will not be one found. I am unable to cite a source on this, because it is not possible to cite something that does not exist. The only way to find the truth is that no record is found. The article currently cited with the statement that he is married includes tweets from Dave Stewart, none of which does he refer to "his wife". It is unfortunate that wikipedia is citing "fact" that comes from media assumptions. The statement that he is currently married should be removed.

An awful lot of media sources call her his wife.. can't just take your word for it.. how do you know they aren't married? Spanneraol (talk) 03:01, 27 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Confirming, he is not currently married. Wife references for professional purposes only. Alst17 (talk) 19:50, 26 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Please site reference to additional daughter, Symone. Alst17 (talk) 19:51, 26 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]