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Section size for Climate change in the United States (44 sections)
Section name	Byte count	Section total
(Top)	10,476	10,476
Greenhouse gas emissions	4,219	4,219
Impact on the natural environment	1,442	50,821
Temperature and weather changes	4,896	4,896
Extreme weather events	7,913	27,400
Heat waves	8,453	8,453
Droughts	6,957	6,957
Megafloods	1,379	1,379
Weakened polar vortex jet stream	2,698	2,698
Sea level rise	14,559	15,683
Locations in the US with low elevation above sea level	1,124	1,124
Freshwater ecosystems	1,400	1,400
Socioeconomic impacts	7,730	37,659
Agriculture and food security	2,144	2,144
Cost of disaster relief	4,500	4,500
Culture	775	775
Health impacts	1,466	1,466
Immigration	993	993
Indigenous peoples	6,914	17,894
Hawaii	2,032	2,032
Alaska	8,948	8,948
Insurance	79	79
Security	2,078	2,078
Mitigation and adaptation	31	70,579
Mitigation	19,290	27,198
Carbon emissions trading schemes by state and regional programs	7,908	7,908
Adaptation	6,280	10,183
Traditional Ecological Knowledge (TEK)	3,903	3,903
Policies, legislation and legal actions	3,834	16,398
State and regional policy	5,013	5,013
Legal actions	7,551	7,551
International cooperation	16,769	16,769
Society and culture	81	39,974
Public opinion about climate change	12,729	20,854
Grouping into six categories	8,125	8,125
Political ideologies	14,207	14,207
Activism	1,248	1,248
Research and educational institutions	2,015	2,015
Business community	1,569	1,569
Climate change by state or territory	446	446
See also	594	594
References	73	627
Works cited	554	554
External links	442	442
Total	215,837	215,837

Wiki Education assignment: Introduction to Policy Analysis

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 28 March 2022 and 30 May 2022. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Milkncooki (article contribs).

Incorrect Linkage

In the introduction paragraph, Paragraph 1 the word 'Climate Action' takes you to an incorrect link, leading you to the Climate change Mitigation wiki page. I have removed the incorrect link and tried linking it to the corresponding page but there are no links leading to 'Climate action'. Salmaismail222 (talk) 00:27, 21 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Under the section 'See also' there are multiple links corresponding to the correct page but when clicking on 'Hurricane Katrina and global warming' you are referred to a wiki page titled "Tropical cyclones and climate change". Salmaismail222 (talk) 01:03, 21 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

In the International cooperation section of the article there are some outdated and some missing sources. I would advise you add some new climate policies that are being incorporated internationally. Milkncooki (talk) 17:30, 23 April 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Underrepresented Viewpoint

Under "Climate change by state or territory, " more elaboration should be added. Understanding how climate change policies work in different states and territories is extremely crucial and significant to understanding the basis of Climate change in the United States. The viewpoint seems underrepresented within the article. Salmaismail222 (talk) 00:57, 21 April 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Under "Impacts on animals and wildlife" the section should have more emphasis on the impacts on animals and wildlife, adding more details and reliable sources that are more relevant; the sources are linked to 2015 and although it may seem somewhat relevant as Climate change continues to grow and shift there should be more relevant sources and analysis linked as the topic is underrepresented. Salmaismail222 (talk) 01:09, 21 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Under "Economic impact" There seems to only be one line explaining the impacts the economy has undergone from climate change. This is very relevant since the economy is the basis of the United States and should be elaborated further on. Salmaismail222 (talk) 01:16, 21 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Under "International cooperation" it would make sense to add climate change policies not only that the United states are enforcing but also what other countries are putting in place for their own climate regulations and see if the U.S. could learn anything from these policies. Milkncooki (talk) 17:44, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Also within the "International Cooperation" section of your article, you could utilize how new electric cars and renewable energy sources are becoming more available leading people across the world to producing less carbon emissions throughout the world. Milkncooki (talk) 17:53, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry there won't be any Teslas left for you Americans as new PM Albanese will ship them all down under. Chidgk1 (talk) 15:34, 29 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Trade embodied emissions

"the EU, the U.S., and Japan are the largest net recipients of trade-embodied carbon dioxide emissions." In other words countries export pollution (and climate change) though the importing of goods.

https://news.mit.edu/2014/calculating-chinas-carbon-emissions-from-trade

I would like to add this to the entry but don't know where?

Please suggest or help Flibbertigibbets (talk) 01:21, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki Education assignment: College Composition II

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 16 January 2024 and 11 May 2024. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Oliviahowe07 (article contribs).

— Assignment last updated by Lindseybean28 (talk) 21:25, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Volume of content re insurance

@CommonKnowledgeCreator: Your recent edits add about 33% to an article that is already long. Much of your content is incredibly detailed and of short-term interest, especially the year-by-year, and even quarter-by-quarter statistics. I don't have the link, but there is a Wikipedia guideline that we should include content only if it will be notable for readers in ten or twenty years. If you want to persist in anything close to this level of detail, probably it's best to start an article like Insurance and climate change in the United States, and leave only a very concise summary here. —RCraig09 (talk) 21:34, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well, after looking for academic research using Google Scholar and looking for news content to create the subsection for several months now, I don't know how much more content there really would be to add to the subsection because this is basically all I found that identifies a clear relationship between climate change and insurance in the United States. However, how climate change is impacting the provision of insurance in the United States is one of the main ways in which it is impacting the U.S. economy, so I'd argue that detailed coverage is justifiable. I acknowledge that the annual statistics will become outdated in time, but the statistics cited are fairly recent and until there are secondary sources that cover long-term impacts of climate change on the provision of various categories of insurance (e.g. reports from financial regulatory agencies or journal article by professional economists who study the insurance sector in the United States specifically), I am not aware of lot of reliable sources for it.

As for your concerns about the length of the subsection, I think that's more defensible since the subsection is 22 kb of readable prose out of an 86 kb readable prose article. The subsection lede could be easily just excerpted in this article after a split. However, I'd just add as side-note that I've raised complaints about other articles (e.g. the Facebook article is 99 kb of readable prose) and my complaints have largely gone unheeded, and that the WP:SIZE and WP:SPLIT policy articles appear to have been changed. -- CommonKnowledgeCreator (talk) 21:57, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

— @CommonKnowledgeCreator: I agree that climate change's effect on insurance is notable—notable enough for an independent article (maybe Effect of climate change on insurance). But notability of a topic does not imply that "detailed" coverage is "justifiable".

— Insurance should not occupy 25% of this article, which is about climate change per se and not insurance per se. Look at the Table of Contents and compare insurance to all the other topics and subtopics. Climate change may be important for insurance, but insurance is not as important a subtopic for climate change.

— You seem to imply you've included "basically all (you) found that identifies a clear relationship between climate change and insurance in the US". We simply can't include "all" that we "find". See WP:SIZERULE and WP:NOTNEWS and, especially, WP:UNDUE.

— You are condemning other editors to cleaning up outdated, short-term micro-statistics in the future. (This clean-up would be required, even if you break out a sub-article, but especially heere.) I'd rather not bother other editors with a formal WP:Request for comment, and I think if you stand back and look at this article objectively as a whole, you'd see your recent addition is an extreme outlier. —RCraig09 (talk) 17:05, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've already acknowledged that the subsection's length would justify a split and would not have a problem with a split. My only complaint is that when I've raised the same issue with a different article, the policy has not been enforced. You've gone a lot further in your complaints about my contribution than is necessary to get across your concerns, and the tone of the language you've used to describe my contribution is more than a little uncharitable. It's a topic I myself will continue to follow in the news, so as long as I continue to contribute to Wikipedia, it will be updated. However, I think your application of the WP:NOTNEWS and WP:UNDUE policies here is largely conditional on the assumption that insurance is not a sufficiently important sub-topic of climate change even though you acknowledge that it is a notable topic. The subsection is not original reporting about a breaking news topic and does not feature coverage of routine announcements, but descriptions of market pricing trends over time. However, if you still feel that this too much detail, then I'd reiterate what I said in my initial comment: the subsection lede can simply be excerpted on this article following a split. -- CommonKnowledgeCreator (talk) 17:57, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry you viewed my remarks as uncharitable. (I couldn't quite follow which side of the issue where you were on, when you said you raised complaints elsewhere.) I agree it would be a good idea to transclude or duplicate a brief intro to a separate sub-article. —RCraig09 (talk) 18:59, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki Education assignment: Linguistics in the Digital Age

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— Assignment last updated by Amazingpolarbear777 (talk) 19:55, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki Education assignment: HNRS 2000Critical Analysis and Social Responsibility

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— Assignment last updated by Khall93 (talk) 06:32, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]