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Lifespan of Chinchillas

A Chinchilla's Life Span usally consists of a mininum of 15 years, some have been said to have lived for up to 30 years. As a result of irresponsible animal husbandry practices originating from the early twentieth century when fur coats were at the height of popularity for the middle class, dental problems affecting proper natural tooth wear are common in the domesticated species. Chinchillas that develop dental problems, particularly at a younger age, do not experience the longevity that is cited; uneven tooth wear results, which if regular tooth trims cannot effectively manage the condition, results in dental abcesses that drain into the lung cavity causing fatal pneumonia. It is more accurate to give a broad range of longevity: 3-5 years if dental problems present would be more typical (up to 10 years with extensive veterinary intervention and extraordinary efforts on the part of the pet owner), and 15-20 years with good dental genetics (30 years is absolutely unsubstantiated).

Look under the section "Health." The individuals responsible for the site, Betti Cogswell, RN, Lani Ritchey, and Roxane Beeman, have privately published a booklet called "The Joy of Chinchillas" that is in its 6th edition now. I merely mention it because it was cited in the veterinary book by Elizabeth V. Hillyer, DVM, and Katherine E. Quesenberry, DVM, in their first edition (1977) of "Ferrets, Rabbits, and Rodents: Clinical Medicine and Surgery" (by W. B. Saunders Company). (The Hillyer & Quesenberry book has since been updated, but I cannot keep up with every edition that is published when I am not a veterinarian.) Betti, Lani, and Roxane have worked with chinchillas for a long, long time, from show chinchillas to rescues. They have been researching the health needs of just chinchillas.

It is necessary for an individual contemplating a chinchilla as a companion to know that the commitment may be for a long time. To help keep your chinchilla healthy, purchase safe, quality supplies at tjschinchillasupplies.com.

Why is this in the talk section, unsigned, with an advertisement? Jaydubya93 (talk) 12:47, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 February 2014

94.71.122.110 (talk) 08:15, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Not done: as you have not requested a change.
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a question of number

Chinchillas are currently listed as a critically endangered species

If the listing applies to both species, I'd suggest removing the words "a ... species". —Tamfang (talk) 00:00, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

Hours sleeping?

I think the article should say how many hours chinchillas sleep for each day. 31.48.191.252 (talk) 09:48, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Page Redirect

When searching for Reno, Nevada on Wikipedia the link (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reno,_Nevada) actually directs you to this page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinchilla) and there doesn't seem to be a way to view the Reno page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HydroLemon1989 (talk • contribs) 18:48, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

@HydroLemon1989: Thanks, this was vandalism, and now I fixed it. Blue Rasberry (talk) 20:20, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

Wrong year?

″Populations in Chile were thought extinct by 1953, but the animal was found to inhabit an area in the Antofagasta Region in the late 1900s and early 2000s.″

I think there's a typo : the year should refer to the late 1990s rather than the late 1900s. However, no source is explicitly cited. Could anyone verify if this is the case (or even better, find the exact year)?TehUniverse (talk) 08:38, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 May 2017

Under PETS

Chinchillas are normally diurnal in the their wild habitat, but when domesticated, chinchillas have shown an adaptation to a diurnal lifestyle. Chinchillas are normally known as agile and playful, but can be timid and give trial bites when exposed to new people or environments. Similar to other rodents, chinchillas enjoy environments where they are capable to climb and jump as well have access to gnawing materials. [1]

[1] The Laboratory Rabbit, Guinea Pig, Hamster, and Other Rodents.Leanne C. Alworth, Stephen B. Harvey. American College of Laboratory Animal Medicine,2012, Pages 955–966. https://doi.org/10.1016/B978-0-12-380920-9.00039-0 Brosmit (talk) 19:38, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. JTP ^{(talk • contribs)} 01:42, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

@Brosmit: Please consider requesting confirmed status for your WikiEd program. JTP ^{(talk • contribs)} 01:44, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

Name

In the introduction, the article says the name 'literally means clay' with no citation, then later in the same paragraph says the animal is named after the Chincha people. As far as I can tell, the name has nothing to do with clay, so shouldn't this be removed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scyrene (talk • contribs) 13:08, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

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Display Parvorder in Taxo Box?

Anyone know how to get the Parvorder to show in the automated taxobox? Bod (talk) 04:16, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

Edit request

Add the names of the 2 species (C. chinchilla and C. lanigera) to the lede. And then say that the domestic chinchilla is a subspecies of C. lanigera, also in the lede. Probably also include brief descriptors for each. 2601:647:CB02:5034:8CDE:EA34:2AD:30B7 (talk) 21:35, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

 Done Noting the species and the descent of the domestic form in the lede makes sense. I did not add a description though - too specific for the summary. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 21:46, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, much improved. 2601:647:CB02:5034:8CDE:EA34:2AD:30B7 (talk) 01:47, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Edit request image caption

Change the top image caption to: Chinchilla lanigera at the Wrocław Zoo in Poland

Because the date is confusing and not needed and no parentheses are needed. 2601:647:CB02:5034:8CDE:EA34:2AD:30B7 (talk) 01:53, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

 Done NiciVampireHeart 15:34, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Edit image caption

Change "Andean chinchilla habitat in Chile" to "Chinchilla habitat in the Andes mountains of Chile" 2601:647:CB02:5034:954A:5D0A:20BD:EA46 (talk) 03:26, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

 Done NiciVampireHeart 15:35, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Request link 2 species in lede

Please link C. lanigera and C. chinchilla in the lede. 2601:647:CB02:5034:954A:5D0A:20BD:EA46 (talk) 03:28, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

 Done NiciVampireHeart 15:36, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Edit request Image of C. chinchilla

Please use this image: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Chinchilla_brevicaudata-Verso-PhotoJimenez.jpg on the page to show the other species. 2601:647:CB02:5034:8CDE:EA34:2AD:30B7 (talk) 02:00, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

 Done NiciVampireHeart 15:41, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Un Italicize the title

I've come to the conclusion that the title of the page should not be in italics. That will make it more about the common word "chinchilla" and less about the genus Chinchilla. Note the first word in the article... 2601:647:CB02:5034:A9D9:C859:43B3:99D4 (talk) 05:47, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. DannyS712 (talk) 07:44, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Okay. 76.102.7.183 (talk) 17:11, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Add wild long-tailed chinchilla image

Please add

Wild-caught young long-tailed chinchilla

as a rare example of a wild specimen to really improve the article. (Now on C. lanigera page). 2601:647:CB02:5034:A9D9:C859:43B3:99D4 (talk) 02:49, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Gangster8192 01:55, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 May 2019

OLD- The chinchilla has the densest fur of all mammals that live on land. In the water, the sea otter has a denser coat.[5] This is going to a broken link.

NEW- Chinchillas are known to have the densest fur of all mammals that live on land. In the water, the sea otter has a denser coat.[5] New source https://chinchillacorner.com/what-is-a-chinchilla/ Chinchilla Information Resource. Shaunb84 (talk) 19:29, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

Have linked to an archived version of the previous source. "Chinchillacorner" looks to be a blog and it would be better to cite a more reliable source – Þjarkur (talk) 20:48, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

Image Caption

Can you change the caption to:

Classified as "Endangered" by the IUCN, this short-tailed chinchilla was found wild in Chile in 2007.

71.198.89.109 (talk) 22:57, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

 Not done for now: Change which caption? Please provide your request in a change X to Y format, not change X. Gangster8192 00:47, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Image Caption

Can you change the caption of the image under Conservation that reads A Short-tailed chinchilla in Chile in 2007; the species is classified as "Endangered" to:

Classified as "Endangered" by the IUCN, this short-tailed chinchilla was found wild in Chile in 2007.

71.198.89.109 (talk) 18:49, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: There is no indication that the chinchilla in the photo was "found wild". NiciVampireHeart 21:28, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Image caption

Can you fix the capitalization and make easier to read the caption: A Short-tailed chinchilla in Chile in 2007; the species is classified as "Endangered"

to: A short-tailed chinchilla (C. brevicaudata), classified as "Endangered" by the IUCN, in Chile in 2007

THanks. 71.198.89.109 (talk) 21:54, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

 Partly done I left out "(C. brevicaudata)" because that appears to be a former name. aboideau^talk 14:48, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 November 2019

Please remove the single-source template from the Conservation section, since the whole section is now dependent on two sources. 208.95.51.53 (talk) 14:08, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

Also, could you accept or decline the request in the section just above this one? The person forgot to request an edit. 208.95.51.53 (talk) 14:09, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

 Not done References 15 and 16 actually seem to be dead, so the tag is correct. aboideau^talk 14:48, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

 Done I found more references, so removed the tag. aboideau^talk 14:55, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 February 2020

An edit I would suggest is for the “as pets” section of the article. This section briefly covers how chinchillas are cared for as pets but it does not go into detail, such as the proper diet they should be eating and chew toys they should have to help with the constant growing of their teeth. This section also does not cover the kind of habitat an owner should provide them with (such as a large cage and a wheel for exercise) and a cage mate because chinchillas do not like to live alone. Relecteurj (talk) 13:03, 19 February 2020 (UTC) Relecteurj (talk) 13:03, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

​We don't give guidance to pet owners as such, but we can describe how they are kept as pets. If you can find a reliable source about this, you can suggest additions here on this talk page on the form "please change X to Y" and reopening this request. – Thjarkur (talk) 13:22, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

Why they should not be pets

Dangerous for kids 68.192.145.79 (talk) 18:42, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

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Audiology

Hello @Max Vestappen: You added two WP:PRIMARY sources and so this certainly does appear overly detailed to Elmidae. However Kuhl is one of the most cited studies I have seen and Spotorno is also highly cited. If you include WP:SECONDARY sources this would show why this is justified coverage in the article. Invasive Spices (talk) 25 October 2022 (UTC)

Actually I'm less objecting to the use of primary sources - those do end to pop up in STEM topics more than in other articles - but the excessive and, to the reader, pointless detail in terms of measurements and values. The entire addition could probably be condensed to something like "The inner ear of the Chilean chinchilla has an unusual morphology with ossicles suspended in balanced positions, enabling perception of high frequencies (ref Spotorno)". Leave out the first paper and the number parade. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 19:22, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for your feedback. I'll find better resources. Max Vestappen (talk) 18:20, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Evaluation

The links to the sources work and they come from a variety of sources, from journals to pages about caring for chins. GinnyThePiggy (talk) 18:15, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

Thank You so much! If I find another reliable resources to support the sentences that I added, would you still delete my sentences? Jiguguji (talk) 18:33, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

@Jiguguji: (bit randomly placed, this - I assume it refers to the latest reversion?) I assume the sources you meant to add are actually suitable and valid, but you somehow managed to place the wrong URL links in the references. Can you paste the links here and we can check what's up with that? --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 19:00, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Sure! I will copy and paste the link Jiguguji (talk) 19:17, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Cite: Houston, J. Chinchilla care. Read Books Ltd, 2013.

Link: https://books.google.com/books?hl=zh-CN&lr=&id=NUR9CgAAQBAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PT13&dq=chinchilla+care&ots=BjuhFopwzD&sig=sn7oL-nuV5KTuen2Z5JjvvEB0dM#v=onepage&q=chinchilla%20care&f=false

Is this source available? Jiguguji (talk) 19:25, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Extinction?

"Their use for fur led to the extinction of one species": I can't find any evidence to support this statement. No third species is listed anywhere alongside C. chinchilla (= C. brevicaudata) and C. lanigera. Myopic Bookworm (talk) 10:55, 16 May 2023 (UTC)