Talk:Blue (Pokémon)

Blue manga

Blue-Pokemon character in the Pokemon Adventures manga

Blue is the cocky rival of Red, who lives in Pallet Town with Blue. In the first volume, the two boys go to Professor Oak's(Blue's grandpa) lab and pick their own Pokémon. Red picks Charmander and Blue picks Squirtle. Red wins their first battle, making Blue more stubborn than ever. His training with Squirtle soon evolves it into a Wartortle, as seen near the end of the first volume, when he appears at Lavender Town's Pokémon Tower. The rest of his team is revealed in the second volume. He has these Pokémon:

Pidgeotto-Level 30 Exeggcute-Level 30 Growlithe-Level 29 Rhyhorn-Level 30 Kadabra-Level 32 Wartortle-Level 34

These Pokémon are accidentally switched with Red's Pokémon, which is this:

Pikachu-Level 33 Charmeleon-Level 34 Poliwrath-Level 32 Snorlax-Level 31 Pidgeotto-Level 30 Butterfree-Level 32

Blue raises his Pokémon in a more barbaric manner, and usually Pokémon that have been trained under him are grumpy afterwards.

Later, Blue is forced to team up with Red to defeat the evil Rocket Elite Koga. He appears later at the Pokémon League, where he loses to Red.

Green? Not so much.

The following is an excerpt from a conversation at WT:PCP:
I was a part of that dispute. I said that it should have been Green, since, IIRC, his "official" name in the remake is Green, not Blue. - A Link to the Past (talk) 14:28, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, this being the English Wikipedia, I'd say it would make more sense to use the English name where applicable. The Green vs. Blue thing... well, I would personally stick to the Blue thing, being the official English name. While I'm all for Japanese names, I think it would be easier for the reader to identify with "Ash" or "Blue" than "Green" or "Satoshi". Jerichi~Profile~Talk~ 21:42, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

But I'm talking about LeafGreen, which has been released in English though. - A Link to the Past (talk) 23:31, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Um, actually, his default name in LeafGreen is Red. Additionally, his default name in Red was Blue, and in Blue, as in the later LeafGreen, it was Red. It is Green in FireRed, but let’s not forget that he was officially known as Blue in the English versions of Gold, Silver, and Crystal. So the final count is Green:1, Red:2, Blue:4. You can’t argue that it was “Green” most recently, because it was “Red” again at the same time. And, let’s not forget that both of those were merely default names for a player-named character. As an already-named NPC, he was Blue each time. Not to mention Pokémon Adventures( the English-language translation of Pocket Monsters SPECIAL, the manga considered to best represent the game world). IF the G/S remakes name the last Gym leader “Green”, and/or they publish additional/reprint volumes of PA calling him Green, then I would concede a need to change. But as it stands, he is most commonly known as Blue in English, by far. --WikidSmaht (talk) 01:15, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Hopefully this clears things up for all but the most stubborn otaku. His most common name in English is and remains Blue. Green is his name in Japan, it has only occured in English once, precisely contemptorary with an occurence of the slightly-more-common Red. --WikidSmaht (talk) 06:38, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

3rd Gen

Added a 3rd Generation section because it didn't have one. -I PWN U ALL 22:01, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Gary

Should we add some Gary information in here? Since they are basicly the same person. It would help fill it up a bit. You can use this page to salvage some information from. [1] --Blake (talk) 17:50, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Green/Blue (whichever you prefer) and Gary are both characters based on the protagonist's rival in Pokemon Red/Green/Blue/Yellow. However, they are two different mediums and the characters are different. It wouldn't make any more sense to include information on Gary in this article than it would to include information about May on Sapphire's page, or Ash on Red's page. MelicansMatkin (talk) 17:57, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Well, it wouldnt be mixed together, but it could have its own section within the article. --Blake (talk) 18:10, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

But what point would that be? They are two different characters. It wouldn't make any sense to include the information. MelicansMatkin (talk) 20:09, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Because all the info Gary has right now is here. Gary Oak. Its not much. I bet that more people would like to see info about Gary then Blue. --Blake (talk) 01:06, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Then that information about Gary should go on the Gary Oak page. This is the article about Blue, not Gary. As I've already said, they are two completely different characters. It would be akin to putting information about Dawn on the Mewtwo article. MelicansMatkin (talk) 01:36, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Although I agree with you and want to end this arguement, I would like to point out that information about Jimmy is on the Gold page. They are "not the same person" yet they are merged together because they resemble each other. --Blake (talk) 01:48, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Then the information on Jimmy should be removed since they are two different characters. I'd suggest moving the information on Jimmy to the List of Pokemon characters page, or simply remove it altogether. MelicansMatkin (talk) 02:32, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

There are alot of pages that have more then one person on them. For example Red (Pokémon) has Red from the Games and Manga. They obviously are two completely different people if you look at the pictures. I think they should all be kept together though because they are the same PERSON, but in different universes.--Blake (talk) 13:32, 26 March 2009 (UTC)