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Working on a season-by season synopsis

for the sake of avoiding uneccesary duplication of effort, i'm just letting anyone who comes along to edit this page that i am working on a season-by-season synopsis here. i'm trying to write it as dryly as possible so anyone who is confused can have a concise recap of the most important game events. most of the citations will come from TGB newsletters, the Blaseball fan wiki, and Cat Manning's coverage of Blaseball.

Neonpixii (talk) 20:57, 25 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

One note: fan wikis usually aren't used as reliable sources, so I would refrain from using them. The whole list itself feels a little crufty; imo the plot and development should be listed in prose, cut down to the most important bits, while a small table with season dates and champions would suffice. Mcrsftdog (talk) 21:16, 25 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

As opposed to the way the wiki uses lore, this article should talk about the actual gameplay aspect... we just gotta avoid lore.starsandwhales (talk) 00:59, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think we should focus on the activism, art culture, and real world effects of the fanbase, as they have been doing a lot of good work through e.g. the garages albums, blaseball cares and spies organise. --143.159.231.91 (talk) 17:14, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Teams

Considering the unnecessary reasons for excluding or including certain teams, would recommend removing any and all partial lists and instead add a table with all teams. Previous editor also seems unaware of page's subject and why teams were chosen and would recommend rendering discussion moot my including all teams as the league's teams have remained largely stable anyway. Bedroomhymns (talk) 02:40, 1 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies for typos, sent the message early. Bedroomhymns (talk) 02:41, 1 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The "reasons" for the (partial) listing is to provide a handful of examples, highlight the unusual / fictional names, and provide a quick contrast vs real-world baseball teams - NOT to show favoritism or otherwise "exclude" certain teams. Deferring to the citation is a simple way to head off further discussion, though I wouldn't be opposed to removing the list entirely as it isn't necessary to understanding the topic.

While I did give a suggestion of adding a table, after thinking it over that may be getting close to "Wikipedia is not a Directory" and "Wikipedia is not a Game Guide"; in addition, any citation for the list of teams would almost certainly refer to the site itself or one of its side projects and thus may be poor citations as "sources too close to the topic". Hornpipe2 (talk) 03:32, 1 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I get that, but it doesn't seem particularly helpful. In this case, given that the team experience is a central aspect of Blaseball as a game, it seems reasonable to include all teams, just as the MLB page as all MLB teams and many media pages contain a list of characters. Bedroomhymns (talk) 04:54, 1 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

MLB teams have individually linked teams because they have enough per-team info to justify a complete Wikipedia article. Blaseball does not. My suggestion is to simply remove the shortlist, if people cannot be happy with the current one, and not bother with a "table of every team" either: a full listing of teams is not notable, nor pertinent to understanding the gist of the game. I don't think there are hard-and-fast rules about noteworthiness here, but do consider if adding a table of teams is trending the article towards WP:FANCRUFT - Wikipedia article tone should be focused on reception, outside cultural impact, etc. and not lists of things. Hornpipe2 (talk) 05:23, 1 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

After unilateral changes to the page from another editor (citing a discussion that did not happen here? what??) I have removed all teams from the intro paragraph. Someone add the table and be done with this. Hornpipe2 (talk) 02:11, 2 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, by discussion I meant previous edits adding the Lift with justification. I can get on adding a table. SimLibrarian (talk) 03:26, 2 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for taking care of that. Sorry for being gruff, I saw people joke-editing the page and don't have much patience for that :) I see now what you were saying with the edit descriptions. Hornpipe2 (talk) 17:16, 2 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

PS, I can see your posts about this. Malicious compliance indeed ;) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hornpipe2 (talk • contribs) 23:10, 2 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Game marked as "horror"

This game isn't really a horror game, looks like it might have been added as a joke? 69.47.82.160 (talk) 16:23, 26 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Game Band themselves invariably describe the game as being a horror game... just from what I can find with Google, other sources do so rarely ([1],[2],[3]), though admittedly they seem to usually be quoting The Game Band on it ("absurd" or "absurdist" seem to be more common descriptors given by secondary sources). I don't see any reason it shouldn't be listed as horror, but maybe prioritising absurdist fiction or minimalism (as in visual style, which it's described as fairly often) would make more sense? (For a subjective i.e not really admissable on Wikipedia argument, in my view Blaseball isn't really traditional horror, but many aspects of the narrative definitely fit: people being "incinerated" at random intervals, powerful and malicious "gods", the very end of the Expansion Era with its rising tension/desperate scrambling, etc. Not that this is why it should say "horror" on Wikipedia here, just if you were wondering what sort of possible reasons there are for calling it that.) twotwos (talk) 02:38, 27 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]