Talk:Batman: Anarky

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October 31, 2008	Good article nominee	Listed
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The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Batman: Anarky/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

==Start rating==

I put it at Start, but it still needs citing. MwNNrules (talk) 16:51, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

==GA rating==

Now GA rated, after successful Good Article nomination. --Cast (talk) 22:44, 1 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Last edited at 22:44, 1 November 2008 (UTC). Substituted at 09:06, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

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GA concerns

After reviewing the article, I am concerned that this article no longer meets the GA criteria. Some of my concerns are listed below:

There is some uncited text
The "Reception" is very disorganised and needs to be reduced.

Is anyone interested in fixing up the article? Z1720 (talk) 01:55, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA Reassessment

Batman: Anarky

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Result: Delisted. Hog Farm _Talk 01:29, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is uncited text throughout the article, and the reception section is too long and disorganised. Z1720 (talk) 02:11, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oof aye, this article has problems, definitely major enough that I don't think they can be easily fixed. The reception section, aside from being too long, consists largely of very confusing and contextless block quotes. The "themes" section might as well be written off as original research, as it is almost entirely cited to the comic itself, so it appears as though this is the editors own interpretations of the comic. It is severely lacking in citations to reliable, secondary sources, citing only a hand full. And as the nominator said, a lot of the text is entirely uncited, in sections you'd expect to be fully sourced. This is definitely a delist from me. --Grnrchst (talk) 09:39, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A lot of the "unsourced" bits aren't really unsourced. Here's an example: Cam Smith, Ray McCarthy, and Josef Rubinstein completed the ink work for "Anarky: Tomorrow Belongs to Us", "Anarky", and "Metamorphosis, respectively. That might be false, but it's not unsourced - the front of each issue will say who inked it. If there are other parts that are a problem, can you point them out specifically? I've only just skimmed it, but it's things like that that I found, so they're fine.

I removed the disorganized part of the reception section and it already looks way better. I haven't followed up with any of those sources though, nor have I checked to see if there are major omissions in that section. -- asilvering (talk) 23:46, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Asilvering: I have added cn tags to the article. If the article is citing the comic as its source, it will need an inline citation (with the exception of the comic's plot summary). I agree with Grnchst above that the Themes section should not be citing the comic, but rather what secondary sources have said about the comic. Z1720 (talk) 00:35, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delist for breadth. Biggest issue for me is the Themes section based on primary sources. It's synthetic/original research to say that those primary source mentions constitute a theme. We need secondary source analysis to warrant those conclusions. czar 22:04, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sources that could be useful to fix up some of this:
Klaehn, Jeffery (1 July 2020). "An interview with Alan Grant". Studies in Comics. 11 (1): 193–204. doi:10.1386/jem_00021_7.

Berns, Fernando Gabriel Pagnoni; Veteri, Eduardo (2023). "Batman, Defender of the Status Quo?: On Anarchy and Anarky (Guest Villain: The Ventriloquist)". In Favaro, Marco; Martin, Justin F. (eds.). Batman's villains and villainesses: multidisciplinary perspectives on Arkham's souls. Lanham: Lexington Books. ISBN 1-66693-083-0.

asilvering (talk) 21:02, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

- Asilvering do you intend to continue working on this article? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:48, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  No. -- asilvering (talk) 17:34, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.