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Requested move 21 December 2023

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) NmWTfs85lXusaybq (talk) 03:51, 29 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]


This follows on the RM that spectacularly failed in moving a drink article from the "drink" disambiguator to the "beverage" disambiguator. There was significant agreement among editors that the disambiguator "drink" is the WP:CONDAB (Use consistent disambiguators for similar kinds of topics), and a disambiguator being the common disambiguator means that that disambiguator should be exclusively used. The disambiguator "beverage" is used for 30 articles, but "drink" is used for 153 articles:

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Alizé (drink), Apo (drink), Applejack (drink), Ara (drink), Arak (drink), Araqi (drink), Arnold Palmer (drink), Artos (drink), Avena (drink), Backdraft (drink), Baikal (drink), Balsam (drink), Bandung (drink), Bangla (drink), Barbican (drink), Batini (drink), Battery (drink), Beat (drink), Bejois (drink), Beverly (drink), Black water (drink), Blow (drink), Bobby Burns (drink), Boost (drink), Borg (drink), Borgoña (drink), Brisk (drink), Caribou (drink), Caro (drink), Carpe Diem (drink), Cement mixer (drink), Chapman (drink), Cheerio (drink), Chelsea (drink), Chinotto (drink), Chocolate Soldier (drink), Citra (drink), Cocaine (drink), Cronk (drink), Diabolo (drink), Floats (drink), Frisco (drink), Frosé (drink), Full Throttle (drink), Garage (drink), Gold Strike (drink), Guarapo (drink), Guaro (drink), Gunfire (drink), Handia (drink), Hit (drink), Hoppy (drink), Inka (drink), Irish moss (drink), Jaffa (drink), Janda pulang (drink), Jigarthanda (drink), Joya (drink), Jun (drink), Kanji (drink), Kas (drink), Kem (drink) Kopi (drink), Koso (drink), Krambambula (drink), Kuat (drink), Lumumba (drink), Mahia (drink), Mahogany (drink), Match (drink), Mate (drink), Mazagran (drink), Mercy (drink), Milo (drink), Miske (drink), Momchilovtsi (drink), Mora (drink), Mors (drink), Mother (drink), Nalu (drink), Nectar (drink), Negus (drink), Nightcap (drink), NOS (drink), Nutcracker (drink), Oasis (drink), Oghi (drink), OpenCola (drink), Orbitz (drink), Paso de los Toros (drink), Patio (drink), Pimp Juice (drink), Pog (drink), Pox (drink), Prime (drink), Punch (drink), Punica (drink), Queimada (drink), Reign (drink), Relentless (drink), Reload (drink), Rev (drink), Revo (drink), Robinsons (drink), Rockstar (drink), Roy Rogers (drink), Semtex (drink), Shani (drink), Shirley Temple (drink), Shooter (drink), Shrub (drink), Sisi (drink), Ski (drink), Slice (drink), Sling (drink), Smart (drink), Snakebite (drink), Sobia (drink), Soma (drink), Sparkle (drink), Sparks (drink), Sprite (drink), Squash (drink), St. Vitus (drink), Starry (drink), Stoney (drink), Street King (drink), Surge (drink), Suso (drink), Suze (drink), Swerve (drink), Tab (drink), Taboo (drink), Tamarindo (drink), Tango (drink), Tarkhuna (drink), Tilt (drink), Ting (drink), Tom and Jerry (drink), Top Deck (drink), Trip (drink), Trocadero (drink), Urge (drink), V (drink), Vault (drink), Viche (drink), Victoria (drink), Vio (drink), VK (drink), Wests (drink), Yazoo (drink), Zarex (drink), Zima (drink)

It is not by accident that "drink" and not "beverage" is the common disambiguator. The word "drink" is better as a disambiguator because of MOS:COMMONALITY. "drink" is a universally accepted term. "Beverage" is "chiefly Canada, US". "Drink" is perfectly fine and natural in American English and "beverage" is comparativelyh less natural in British English. Due to the practical usefulness of disambiguators being uniform, whenever they can be, it is especially in the area of disambiguation that commonality applies. If considering whether American and Canadian drinks' articles predominantly use the "beverage" disambiguator, they already do not. For some examples, see these articles about American drinks: Prime (drink), V (drink), Vault (drink), Mother (drink), Cocaine (drink), NOS (drink), Reload (drink), Rockstar (drink), Battery (drink), Tango (drink), Robinsons (drink), Urge (drink), Full Throttle (drink) (there are more). So there are already many more articles about American drinks with "drink" than with "beverage".
The vast majority of the proposed targets are surpisingly redlinked (as of submission of this RM). Instead of creating those redirects, what should be done is moving and having the "beverage"-disambiguated name redirect to the "drink"-disambiguated name. —Alalch E. 23:48, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: WikiProject Food and drink has been notified of this discussion. —Alalch E. 00:01, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: WikiProject Disambiguation has been notified of this discussion. —Alalch E. 00:02, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: WikiProject English Language has been notified of this discussion. —Alalch E. 00:06, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support all per everyone above and the nominator. 120.28.229.213 (talk) 13:37, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Move ZICO (beverage) to Zico (drink) per MOS:TM / WP:TITLETM / MOS:ALLCAPS. There is no good reason for the all-caps. The third-party sources use "Zico". —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 15:22, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support all per WP:CONSISTENT but move ZICO (beverage) to Zico (drink) instead, as the sources always use Zico. GabrielPenn4223 (talk) 22:52, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.