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Nee is french for born, and this is an english article. should be changed — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.75.254.199 (talk) 14:28, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

It is standard practice in the English language to cite a married woman's maiden name by preceding it with the word née. :Although the word's origins are in the French language, it is a word in the English language, alongside such words as cliché, encore and fiancé(e), and appears in English dictionaries including the Oxford English Dictionary.PårWöet (talk) 09:15, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

Article formatting reversion

Hello @Synthwave.94:. Based on your edit comment, I think you were under the impression that I was redundantly re-tagging this article as day-month-year format. However I wanted to point you to policy on {{dmy}}, particularly the section that reads: After being tagged, and bearing in mind article evolution, periodic script or bot runs clean up formats, correcting any new introductions since its last visit, and updating the visit date on the template.. The "date" parameter in that template should be updated whenever a script has been run to correct the dating issues in any article. I actually ran several scripts on the page, which all served to update formatting, complete incomplete references, and make other helpful improvements to the article (diff). I've restored the improvements, particularly since this is a GA article, and should meet a certain standard. I look forward to seeing you around and working with you again--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 08:09, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

@Synthwave.94:I really hate to escalate this, because it is my MO to communicate and make articles better, but your reversions are not only violating policy on the use of templates and reversion, but are reintroducing errors and bad formatting into the article. I would hate to have to get a third-party involved. Are you open to reviewing the policies you are violating, and reverting your edits?--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 03:26, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for listing your dispute at Wikipedia:Third_opinion. I've removed your request for a third opinion, as there has not been extensive discussion on the article Talk page. Third Opinion requests depend on there having already been discussion via the article talk page, not just via edit summaries. They are also only for opinions on article content, not editor conduct. If you need to report a chronic, intractable behavioral problem, or edit warring, rather than a content problem, consider WP:ANI instead. PrimalBlueWolf (talk) 08:08, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

I've just now reverted the revert by User:Synthwave.94, as the changes seem an improvement to the article. If they continue to revert without consensus building attempts, it may be appropriate to follow WP:DE steps. PrimalBlueWolf (talk) 03:13, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

Minor correction

Deleted duplicate word "list" (lead section, lat word) Billfalls (talk) 04:58, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Ska missing from musical styles

Amy recorded a good 4-6 ska songs during a relatively brief recording career, yet there is no mention at all of this style on her main page. I propose including the genre in her infobox. While this genre is not prominent on either of her two studio albums, it is quite prominent in her deeper catalogue, which at this point is well known ("Monkey Man", "Our Day Will Come", and "You're Wondering Now" are all in her top 25 tracks according to last.fm: https://www.last.fm/music/Amy+Winehouse/+tracks?date_preset=ALL#top-tracks).

I propose working this into the main page by adding a sentence to the following:

A deluxe edition of Back to Black was also released on 5 November 2007 in the UK. The bonus disc features B-sides, rare, and live tracks, as well as "Valerie." Additionally, this disc brought attention to her interest in ska music, featuring four songs that would later be compiled on an unofficial release, The Ska Ep.

...or something to that effect. Newtack101 (talk) 16:36, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

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Madness also recorded tribute song.

Madness frontman Suggs (Graham) McPherson knew Amy and wrote a song about her and her death called “Blackbird”, which is on their album “Can’t Touch Us Now.” I think it should be included in the existing list of artists who paid tribute to her, which is under the subtitle “Death” in this Wiki article. Kessmarl (talk) 10:11, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Request to add the band “Madness” to list of tributes.

Madness frontman Suggs (Graham) McPherson knew Amy and wrote a song about her death (describing the last time he saw her), called “Blackbird”. It’s on their 2016 album “Can’t Touch Us Now.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Can%27t_Touch_Us_Now I propose this fact be added to the list of artists who payed tribute to her, which appears in this Wiki under the subheading “Death.” E.g....

“Many musical artists have since paid tribute to Winehouse including U2, M.I.A., Lady Gaga, Marianne Faithfull, Bruno Mars, Nicki Minaj, Keisha Buchanan, Rihanna, George Michael, Adele, Kelly Clarkson, and Courtney Love.[290] Fellow Camden artists Madness paid tribute to Amy and the last time frontman Suggs saw her alive, in the song “Blackbird”, and the punk rock band Green Day wrote a song in her tribute titled "Amy".” Kessmarl (talk) 10:45, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Just to add: I’m not sure why the references N°s 1 and 2 have been automatically added to the end of my post above. My post finished with the words “ ... in her tribute titled “Amy”.” I’m not really savvy on how this whole thing works, though I’m sure it’s clear to the rest of you, so thought I’d better mention it incase I’ve somehow invoked the references by accident. I just wanted to suggest the Madness song be added to the list. Thankyouverymuch. Kessmarl (talk) 11:08, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Fixed. They were refs in a post from earlier this year that were missing a bit of housekeeping code. Shearonink (talk) 17:52, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 August 2020

Frankie Vaughn the singer and actor was Amy Winehouse's uncle - her mother's brother. Nietzsche99 (talk) 19:24, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. —KuyaBriBri^Talk 20:14, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

I had never heard it mentioned that Frankie Vaughan [note spelling] was Amy's uncle. Frankie Vaughan was a big name in the UK entertainment world, in his time, so it's a bit surprising that this relationship isn't better known. The main basis for it seems to be an interview in the Daily Record (a Scottish tabloid) with David Sye, who states that he is Vaughan's son. (The Wiki article on Frankie Vaughan does mention a David Sye as one of his children. 'Vaughan' was of course a stage name. The original family name was Abelson, and Vaughan's other son uses that name. I don't know where 'Sye' comes from.) In the interview Sye states that 'my father's sister Carol married Neville Winehouse'. If Neville Winehouse was Amy's father's brother (which I haven't been able to verify) that still wouldn't make Vaughan Amy's uncle in the usual sense: i.e. either a brother of one of her parents or the husband of a sister of one of her parents. (Though Vaughan's sister Carol would count as Amy's aunt, as the wife of an uncle.) But these terms are often used loosely. Vaughan came from the same kind of Russian-Jewish-London background as Amy's family. The Daily Record interview is dated 7 May 2015. I haven't linked it as it has horrible pop-ups, etc. 2A00:23C8:7903:2B01:A9BB:2ACC:70E4:D155 (talk) 18:42, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

Removing the link to The 27 Club in the lede

The link to the 27 Club in the lede presently serves no purpose. Is the link included because Winehouse, specifically, is a notable example when discussing the 27 club, or simply because she died at 27? If the former, perhaps some expansion upon this is necessary beyond a link.

I see no reason why the link should be included without clarification as to how it adds to one's understanding of Amy Winehouse or the 27 Club itself. 184.188.64.226 (talk) 00:27, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

Agreed: I've removed it. Such a link certainly doesn't belong in the lede at all, and if it is to be linked anywhere in the article, it would need explanation, and a citation to a source that discussed Winehouse & the 27 Club in detail. AndyTheGrump (talk) 00:49, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 August 2022

Would like to add a link to the Reclaiming Amy Wiki page in the "Filmography" subsection. Zoraxia (talk) 16:14, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: Reclaiming Amy does not exist so no point in linking to it. WP:WTAF Cannolis (talk) 16:56, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 19 May 2022

May I suggest the insertion of a new main section named "Television" after the section named "Filmography" in which it is noted that Amy had a brief speaking part in the "Competitive Dad/School Play" sketch in episode 2 of series 3 of "The Fast Show" in 1997.

(External link: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00c5nnp) 80.225.58.48 (talk) 01:22, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Are there any secondary sources discussing this? ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:11, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Reliable sources request: If a reference to Amy Winehouse appearance in S03E02 of The Fast Show, "Competitive Dad" A Midsummer Night's Dream School Play sketch is still warranted suitable for inclusion in the main text, here is a link to a Daily Mail published piece. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-491784/Amy-Winehouse-TV-BEFORE-infamous.html Colinc1000 (talk) 22:30, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 23 April 2023 (2)

Changing "the the Rolling Stones" to "the Rolling stones" (by removing "the") Alan K Seltzer (talk) 19:05, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

 Done Cannolis (talk) 19:12, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

Too Many Sections

I see this article is of Good Article (GA) status. As someone who has been involved in assessing articles nominated for GA, I would have failed this one on account of its incoherent structure, despite its being comprehensive in scope. Billsmith60 (talk) 22:04, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

Questionable attribution of influence

At the end of the "early life" section, a source is mentioned in connection to how Winehouse listened and was inspired by certain artists. I read the two original articles and they do not seem to mention these artists by name, and as such seems to me to be conjecture.

"She was influenced by Sarah Vaughan and Dinah Washington, the latter of whom she was already listening to home."

Whilst I agree that this is not at all implausible in her field of jazz singing, the cited sources does not explicitly mention this, and as this is a protected article I am not able to edit it myself. I am also confused by the wording of "the latter of whom" which does not seem to have any basis at all in the cited article. Gedigen Varelse (talk) 03:17, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the alert! Figuring there would be some valid influences described somewhere in sources, I looked at a few nearby footnotes and found a good interview with Access All Areas in which Amy names the singers that most affected her style. I also removed a blog post per WP:SPS. I hope my change suits your request. Binksternet (talk) 07:02, 30 January 2024 (UTC)