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Duplication?

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Is the article Alconétar Bridge about the same bridge? It sounds very similar! - Denimadept (talk) 18:07, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actually those are 2 totally different bridges, a source for that is for instance O'Connor: Roman bridges (SP20 and SP21 in the book's bridge enumeration). However if you read the information you can conclude from the article as well, that the bridges are not identical as the much more famous Alcantara bridge was never relocated. Also note that the TAgus/Tajo is a rather long river, almost crossing the whole Iberian peninsula (Spain+Portugal) from East to West, which means you can expect lotsa Roman bridges over the same river (and indeed there are several). I remove the tags now.--Kmhkmh (talk) 03:57, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I noticed someone removed the tags. I figured they knew better than me. Oh well. At least I didn't create a duplicate article! - Denimadept (talk) 00:33, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Perpetuii or Perfeci?

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Is the slogan on the bridge "Pontem perpetui mansurum in saecula" or "Pontem perfeci mansurum in saecula"? There are sources on the internet for the latter, but also for the former. My Latin is very rusty, but my recollection is that the translation is "I have built a bridge that will last for centuries" (or maybe "for aeons"). I cannot get that from "perpetui", but there is clearly a perfectly good reference source for the slogan reading "perpetui". Does anyone have a photo of the slogan, or can anyone clarify the Latin verb and grammar? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.125.120.221 (talk) 11:12, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The slogan is right out of the book I got it from, and is shown by a reference right in the article. If the reference is wrong, you're welcome to add that the text may also be whatever you found, as long as you include a real reference. - Denimadept (talk) 14:39, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
My Latin is quite weak, so I'd appreciate any translation. So I imagine would the majority of readers. Piano non troppo (talk) 16:11, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It's definitely perpetui. It modifies mundi, i.e., perpetui mundi the genitive of perpetuus mundus, "the whole world". The whole inscription is Pontem perpetui mansurum in saecula mundi fecit divina nobilis arte Lacer, which means, Lacer, famous for divine art, made this bridge to remain for the ages of the whole world. Rwflammang (talk) 22:21, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sides

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The left/right side thing is from the original source I used when creating this article. It was removed by a later editor. I've now restored it. However, the original source doesn't specify left/right relative to what. - Denimadept (talk) 02:58, 11 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Modern use

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This reader would like to know, how is the bridge used today? Is it capable of bearing the weight of automobiles? 75.163.226.84 (talk) 05:35, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Cars, buses, trucks and trailers --88.22.95.110 (talk) 00:17, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Inscription

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I worked hard to find the Roman inscription written out in full, without the abbreviations. Then I hunted for a good translation. If some classics scholar, knowledgeable in Roman inscription abbreviations, can improve on what I did, then please do so. Nick Beeson (talk) 14:34, 3 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

In the section "Roman inscription on the archway" the center and right boxes don't contain/translate the first sentence in the left box. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.239.19.159 (talk) 15:32, 18 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Age of bridge?

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The bridge is declared to be Roman but a referenced line in the article says it was rebuilt in 1860 - so is not actually a Roman bridge but a C19th bridge! Geopersona (talk) 08:51, 12 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The reconstruction is only of one arch, the second on the right bank of the river, which was blown over by explosives. The bridge is from the year 104-105. --88.22.95.110 (talk) 00:23, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]