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Review: April 21, 2016. (Reviewed version).

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Reviewer: Jaguar (talk · contribs) 20:14, 20 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I shall be reviewing this against the GA criteria as part of a GAN sweep. I'll leave some comments soon. JAGUAR 20:14, 20 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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It is reasonably well written.
a (prose, no copyvios, spelling and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
It would be good if the lead could mention what months the season took place in

I done some minor cleaning in the Front office section

Too many red links in the body. It wouldn't hurt cutting down a few

The Undrafted free agents section could do with being split into two paragraphs, to improve prose flow

" Tennessee Titans vice president of player personnel" - Tennessee Titans' vice president of player personnel
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
No original research found.
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall:
Pass/Fail:

Overall the prose is well written and the article is definitely comprehensive enough to meet the criteria, so I'll pass this now. JAGUAR 10:44, 21 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Split

This article sits at a readable prose size of 102, over what is recommended for any article, and a lot more than what is needed for an article with a narrow focus like this. I suggest splitting off the game summaries into their own article and just summarising them here. I would be happy if there are other ideas or if someone wants to trim other sections. I feel the length of this article fails the focusc criteria for Good Articles and it would be a shame to delist it because of the length. @ZappaOMati: AIRcorn (talk) 23:14, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Aircorn: I'm not a fan of splitting the game summaries since there has never been any precedent of that. Best I could suggest is trimming the opening game preview paragraphs of said summaries (the ones that feature sentences like "The Bears should...") since those seem to be talking from a speculative point of view about the upcoming game, or at the very least, just removing those parts and retaining others like all-time record and statistics. Works fine for sports websites wanting to hype up fans, doesn't really seem to read too well when talking from an encyclopedic standpoint. Same could be said for the statistics section, particularly the position reviews since some of those can probably be moved to the relevant player/coach articles (like the quarterbacks coach's page when talking about the QBs). That's really all I can think of so far. Zappa⚡Mati 16:49, 3 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

We could set our own precedent. I don't think I have come across a more detailed season article so in some ways this is precedent in itself. It has obviously taken a lot of work and I would hate for that to be lost. What I was thinking of is a list type article List of Chicago Bears 2015 season games, which would consist of all the preseason, game summaries and a lead. We could then trim like you say above. However, it is your article so I will let you decide the best approach. AIRcorn (talk) 20:22, 3 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Compared to other NFL teams, the Bears articles seem to have a longer focus on the off-season than that of other NFL teams. Theoallen1 (talk) 14:00, 28 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with ZappaOMatic: the article should be trimmed, not split. Was this what you were going for as well, @Theoallen1:? – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 12:25, 2 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]