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RfC on lettercase of heraldic mottoes

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Missing topics list

My list of missing topics about nobility and royalty is updated - Skysmith (talk) 15:29, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Ireland flag

There is a discussion about the Irish flag used during sporting events, which falls into your purview. Please join in the discussion here. Thank you. Primefac (talk) 21:22, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

Missing flag

In 1951, a new flag was created for use by the British Ministry of Transport. A defaced Blue Ensign, its design is described as "The flag, containing on the blue ground of a conventional ensign a red train wheel entangled with a white anchor surmounted by a crown". It appears that we need an image creating of this flag. Mjroots (talk) 06:37, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

This is the flag. Mjroots (talk) 16:51, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

Monclar, Lot-et-Garonne

Its coat of arms consists of something-I-can't-find impaled with an Occitan cross. Can anyone help resolve the problem which I left on the Occitan cross page? I'd wager that the dexter part before impalement includes a three-towered castle argent, as well as that crescent argent in chief and sun or in base. Narky Blert (talk) 23:57, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

Not sure what you‘re asking; the blazon as given in the description of File:Blason ville fr Monclar (Lot-et-Garonne).svg doesn’t describe the dexter side as halved or dimidiated, only the sinister. My translation: Parted [per pale], the first [dexter] Azure two towers connected by a wall, the sinister one taller, all Argent masoned Sable, between in chief a crescent Argent and in base a sun Or; the second [sinister] dimidiated Gules a cross clechy, voided and pometty of twelve pieces Or.—Odysseus1479 00:50, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

Azure two towers connected by a wall, the sinister one taller, all Argent masoned Sable, between in chief a crescent Argent and in base a sun Or. Whose arms are those? Narky Blert (talk) 22:35, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

Ongoing RM at Talk:National Emblem of the People's Republic of China

The RM at Talk:National Emblem of the People's Republic of China is still ongoing. I invite you to comment. --George Ho (talk) 00:39, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

Ongoing deletion discussion: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of flags by number of colors

A discussion is ongoing whether to include List of flags by number of colors in the encyclopedia. Requesting comments from members of the Wikiproject. RoCo^(talk) 22:27, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

Hello!

Hello guys!! I have recently found out how fascinating the study of Heraldry is so I'd like to ask you what book/books you have to suggest me in order to know more about....Also, how can I learn the terminology of this sciensce and is it easy for a beginner to do so??? Thanks in advance, StefSom (talk) 15:17, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

@StefSom: Admittedly from a British perspective - Arthur Charles Fox-Davies, s:A Complete Guide to Heraldry. The rules in continental Europe and in other parts of the world were and are different, but that 1909 book is a classic. Narky Blert (talk) 02:14, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

The Greek heraldry is so completely different to Dutch or English heraldry... I realy wouldn't know what book or books to advice. Isn't there a heraldry project on the Greek Wikipedia? I know there is one on the Dutch, but that's also focused on the Dutch and Belgian heraldry. The Dutch (Dutch: Nederlands) language is mainly spoken in the Netherlands and Belgium. Dqfn13 (talk) 09:41, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

Ongoing RfC at Talk:Flag

A request for comments has been raised at Talk:Flag about keeping or removing the newly created section Similar flags. You are invited to join. --T*U (talk) 16:31, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

Somali "ethnic flag" issue

Hi. I've started a discussion at Talk:Somalis#Somali ethnic flag about whether the flag of Somalia can also be considered the ethnic flag of the Somali people. Expert input would be welcome. Cordless Larry (talk) 15:58, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

Mauritania

Mauritania has officially changed it's national flag via referendum, so the flagicon image will have to change as well. Polopolus (talk) 09:59, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

Coat of arms of Fez, Morocco

Hi,

I'm looking for the coats of arms of the city of Fez.

I've found coat of arms of Moroccan cities here: Fez, geneawiki FR but without any explanation (Blazon, source, ...). Does anybody have informations about heraldry in Morocco ?

PS: I'm a member of French Heraldry project.

Thx in advance,

--Benzebuth198 (talk) 08:16, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

How to use coat of arms template

Hello, I am working on User:Ergo Sum/sandbox/Louis-François de Rohan-Chabot and am trying to render the coat of arms properly. The individual was a Cardinal Archbishop and was a Duke and peer of France. His coat of arms should appear as it does on the French Wikipedia (here), but when I use {{Arms with common ornaments}} in the coat of arms parameter of {{Infobox Christian leader}}, I am not able to achieve this. So, there are three layers that should be superimposed: the Cardinal Archbishop layer, the Duke and peer layer, and the shield layer. Does anyone know how to do this? Ergo Sum 17:20, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

Need help with a blazon

I'm busy at Commons categorizing arms from Germany, Austria and Switzerland, also adding the occasional blazon when I find a reliable source. The problem is that the relevant armorials are either written in German or French (e.g. Rietstap). I've come across File:AUT Scharndorf COA.png where the joints in the brick wall in fess are explicitely blazoned in the German-language source. Is there any heraldic term in English describing a brick wall and its rabbets, mortar gaps, joints, etc. in particular or would you use "normal" language? De728631 (talk) 12:11, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

@De728631: the usual term for the tincture of mortar-joints is masoned. See Parker for example, and the first instance that comes to my mind is Coat of arms of Edinburgh, which includes a door & windows of a third colour. (I don’t actually see where the mortar is mentioned in your example, just that there are three rows in the wall, but my German isn’t very good.)—Odysseus1479 14:30, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. I was thinking of masoned too but wasn't sure about it. As to my example, you're right that there are no mortar-joints mentioned in that case but the blazon mentions "stone cubes" which is why there are joints visible in the depiction. This, however, made me think a lot as well. Actually, as in most cases, the French blazon there is very close to the English heraldic terms, so I could have guessed it: "D'argent au château de sable, maçonné d'argent." De728631 (talk) 17:17, 21 October 2017 (UTC)