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Add Projection screen  5

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A common type of Display device  5, especially in large-scale applications.

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  1. As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 04:48, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
  2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 07:40, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
  3. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 01:25, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
  4. Interstellarity (talk) 00:20, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
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Should Video projector be listed instead? Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 05:18, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

Projector  5 is already listed. feminist🩸 (talk) 06:11, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
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Add Digital video  5

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We list multiple digital video file formats but not the parent concept

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  1. As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 04:53, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
  2. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 05:18, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
  3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 07:41, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
  4. With this added, wondering if we could even trim the list of specific file formats. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 16:50, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
    I would support that. feminist🩸 (talk) 12:49, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
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Add Model  5

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Very important in the representation of information.

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  1. As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 15:19, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
  2. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 15:40, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
  3. per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 21:40, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
  4. Should be V4. starship.paint (RUN) 12:06, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
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Add Physical object  5

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Important concept.

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  1. As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 15:21, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
  2. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 15:40, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
  3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 12:07, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
  4. Rated High-Importance by WikiProject Philosophy and WikiProject Metaphysics. QuicoleJR (talk) 13:12, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
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Add Information security  5

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A related concept to Computer security  4, with the distinction that computer systems are not necessarily involved.

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  1. As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 04:43, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
  2. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 04:49, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
  3. Support, really good practical tech topic (and not just for computers). -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 22:59, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
  4. Yes, almost every midsize and large company have a team dedicated to this. Aurangzebra (talk) 21:47, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
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Add Hazard  5

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A major concept in Occupational safety and health  4.

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  1. As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 04:49, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
  2. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 09:52, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
  3. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 22:59, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
  4. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 01:51, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
  5. QuicoleJR (talk) 02:41, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
  6. Vileplume (talk) 02:47, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
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Delist Ceramic chemistry

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Removed 4–0. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 01:53, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

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Subdiscipline of Chemistry that is wholly encompassed by the article ceramic engineering. 12:33, 16 April 2024 (UTC)~

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  1. Reconrabbit 12:33, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
  2. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 02:26, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
  3. per above. starship.paint (RUN) 12:34, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
  4. Damn this may be the shortest Level 5 article I've ever seen. Aurangzebra (talk) 06:37, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
    It was about 5 paragraphs when first listed in 2022, but as mentioned below was complete advertisement and had no verifiable information and so was cut down to what you see today. Reconrabbit 14:51, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

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Neutral

Discussion

  • This article was created mainly to advertise someone's website. Ceramics#Properties describes most of the information that could be here. A better name for the article would be ceramic chemical processing, but the scope of this delisting is to make room for other things and allow for an easier merge.

Reconrabbit 12:33, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

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Add Common blackbird

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Extremely prevalent species of bird in Europe and that also consistenly appears in popular culture; 116 interwikis.

Support
  1. As nominator. The Blue Rider 01:51, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
  2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 12:05, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
  3. Per nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 15:42, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
  4. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 03:18, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
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Add Tamandua and Mara (mammal)

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Per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Vital_articles/Level/5/Archive_12 this article was removed, it was replaced by Megalonyx though no rationale was given for the addition other than personal opinion. Considering we are under quota and this is a widespread and behaviourally unique group of anteaters which is also decently common in captivity I think it deserves a place at this level. Maras are a widespread rodent in southern Patagonia that are also extremely widespread in captivity, considering we list other less known rodents from the region such as viscacha it would make sense to include the mara as well.

Support

  1. as nom Maykii (talk) 14:43, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
  2. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 01:36, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
  3. Makkool (talk) 09:29, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
  4. Interstellarity (talk) 00:22, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

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Discuss Maykii (talk) 14:43, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

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Add Appian Way

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Better known as Via Appia, the most important and well-known of Roman roads  5.

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  1. As nom. Makkool (talk) 17:05, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
  2. TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 02:44, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
  3. SailorGardevoir (talk) 03:09, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
  4. Interstellarity (talk) 00:14, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
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Remove Sydney Metro

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The Sydney Metro only opened in 2019 and only has an annual ridership of 19,738,171. Out of all the rapid transit systems listed as vital articles, the Sydney Metro has the second lowest ridership, only beating the Glasgow Subway. The only reason I can guess why the Sydney Metro is a VA is for there to be a token Australian transit system listed as VA. My first preference would be to remove Sydney Metro without replacement, but I would be open to replacing Sydney Metro with Sydney Trains as well. The Sydney Trains system has an annual ridership of 288.3 million, placing it much better compared to the rapid transit systems listed as VA. Steelkamp (talk) 14:54, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. As someone who has used the Sydney Metro, I support removing it from VA5. It is not something that the rest of the world needs to read about in an encyclopedia of 50,000 articles. Gizza (talk) 22:12, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
  2. Support swap with Sydney Trains Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 16:15, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
  3. Support swap with Sydney Trains. Interstellarity (talk) 00:08, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
  4. remove per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 05:30, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
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I don't want to say I support or oppose just yet but I do want to add that part of the reason for its somewhat elevated status might be because it is currently undergoing and is planned to undergo significant expansion. Most of the network is currently under construction as well so I would expect patronage to increase significantly soon. Takerlamar (talk) 21:51, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

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Add U.S. Route 66

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We don’t have any individual roads, and probably don’t need to, but I think this road is iconic enough to warrant discussion.

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  1. SailorGardevoir (talk) 22:13, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
  2. The most famous highway in the country. There are entire museums dedicated to it. QuicoleJR (talk) 21:28, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
  3. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 03:06, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
  4. Support, there's a reason it's one of the first things you see on Culture of the United States. Kevinishere15 (talk) 21:13, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
  5. TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:41, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
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  • Does Route 66 have any historical importance? For instance, did people used the route during the territorial expansion of the US? The Blue Rider 23:27, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
    It’s the first highway in the US to be fully paved. A lot of people used it to move to the West, especially a bunch of Okies escaping the Dust Bowl  4. Again though, I’m mostly suggesting it because of how famous it is. SailorGardevoir (talk) 00:12, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
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Add Chatbot  5

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Chatbots are one of the primary applications of generative AI models, but they have a long history. They started long before gen AI entered the spotlight, and have been used in customer support for a long time.

Support
  1. As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 07:10, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
  2. Per nominator. The Blue Rider 01:08, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
  3. Per nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 02:38, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
  4. Widely used. Interstellarity (talk) 00:19, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
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Add Injury in humans  5

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Passed 4–0. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 01:09, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

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The type of Injury  3 that humans are most concerned about.

Support
  1. As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 14:48, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
  2. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 16:50, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
  3. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 05:03, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
  4. Interstellarity (talk) 00:19, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
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Add Videotape

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No longer used, but still vital. Interstellarity (talk) 23:51, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

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  1. Interstellarity (talk) 23:51, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
  2. surprising omission. starship.paint (RUN) 15:11, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
  3. TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 12:31, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
  4. SailorGardevoir (talk) 03:09, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
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Add Audiobook

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Plenty of people listen to audiobooks every day. Interstellarity (talk) 23:52, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

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  1. Interstellarity (talk) 23:52, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
  2. surprising omission. starship.paint (RUN) 15:11, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
  3. TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 12:32, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
  4. --LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 14:58, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
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Swap: Remove Twitter, Add X (social network)

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Not added 3–1. Besides, X (social network) just links to Twitter now, so this is no longer needed. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 02:10, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

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There are two separate articles here, but I just wanted to open up a discussion here on which one is more vital. Interstellarity (talk) 00:06, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

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  1. It is absurd that two articles exist. X is too recent to be vital. The Blue Rider 03:20, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
  2. Should probably be merged together, but Twitter is the much more vital article between the two. QuicoleJR (talk) 22:06, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
  3. Twitter was much more vital and longstanding than X. As for the above points about why two articles exist, there was a major consensus to split Twitter into two articles. λ NegativeMP1 19:50, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
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  1. Interstellarity (talk) 00:06, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
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Add Solar panel  5

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Passed 4–0. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 02:14, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

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An increasingly ubiquitous technology, solar panels are the most widely used source of Solar power  4.

Support
  1. As nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 05:15, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
  2. We could use some more renewable energy topics on the list. QuicoleJR (talk) 16:33, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
  3. per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 22:39, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
  4. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 11:25, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
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Add emerging/futurism concepts

A bit sf-y, but discussed in science. The articles we have are generally about science, not sf treatment of those (fiction is generally relegated to seprate articles). Perhaps some of this belongs under physics and not technology, but that's a minor issue. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Add Emerging technologies  5

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The very concept. "Emerging technologies are technologies whose development, practical applications, or both are still largely unrealized... [but] are often perceived as capable of changing the status quo.". We list some of them already - artificial intelligence, robotics. But there's more to consider. 22 intewikis, ~450 daily page views. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. As nominator. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
  2. Per nom. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 03:14, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
  3. Support, good concept to add for more context around technology. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
  4. Support-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 17:18, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
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Add Mind uploading

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"a speculative process of whole brain emulation in which a brain scan is used to completely emulate the mental state of the individual in a digital computer". 20 intewikis, ~400 daily page views. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. As nominator. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
Oppose
  1. Oppose, still too sci-fi for me to support adding to Tech. I wouldn't oppose if this came up on the Society page with other ideas from speculative fiction. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
  2. Per Zar2gar1 -- Marchantiophyta (talk) 01:40, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
  3. Per Zar2gar1 Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 06:24, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
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Add Brain–computer interface  5

Added 4-1. starship.paint (RUN) 13:06, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

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"a direct communication pathway between the brain's electrical activity and an external device". Already tested on animals. 34 intewikis, ~700 daily page views. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. As nominator. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
  2. Support, still experimental, but AFAIK this is beyond animal-testing and into studies with people using these for prosthetics. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
  3. Already into human testing Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 04:53, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
  4. Why not? Interstellarity (talk) 00:15, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
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  1. I feel we shouldn't list any examples of emerging technologies, as the parent article is only V5. Makkool (talk) 06:37, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
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Add Terraforming

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Pretty classic in sf, but also subject to much scientific discourse. 47 intewikis, ~400 daily page views. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. As nominator. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
Oppose
  1. Oppose, still too sci-fi for me to support in Tech. Would definitely support something less speculative though like Afforestation and related articles. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
  2. Per Zar2gar1 -- Marchantiophyta (talk) 01:40, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
  3. Per Zar2gar1 Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 06:24, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
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Add Generation ship

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A realistic way to get to other planets. Sf trope too. 21 intewikis, ~175 daily page views. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. As nominator. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
Oppose
  1. Oppose, still too sci-fi for me to support in Tech; no opposition to it being in speculative fiction though. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
  2. Per Zar2gar1 -- Marchantiophyta (talk) 01:40, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
  3. Per Zar2gar1 Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 06:24, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
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Add Artificial gravity  5

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Not just a sf trope (and don't confuse with anti-gravity), can be created by rotation, etc. 25 intewikis, ~335 daily page views. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. As nominator. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
  2. Support, article isn't too speculative, has good details on microgravity training too. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
  3. -TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 00:10, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
  4. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 13:12, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
Oppose
  1. I feel we shouldn't list any examples of emerging technologies, as the parent article is only V5. Makkool (talk) 06:37, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
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Add Space industry  5

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Parent concept to the above. 9 intewikis, 89 ~daily page views. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. As nominator. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
  2. Strong support, but not under Tech. Probably best under Society like with Space tourism. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
  3. Per Zar2gar1 -- Marchantiophyta (talk) 01:40, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
  4. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 06:07, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
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Add Space elevator

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Not added 1-3. feminist🩸 (talk) 02:14, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

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Classic proposal/future invention. 50 intewikis, ~750 daily page views. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. As nominator. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
Oppose
  1. Oppose, another idea that is (while outwardly simple) a bit too sci-fi for me to support in Tech. Wouldn't oppose under Speculative fiction though. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
  2. Per Zar2gar1 -- Marchantiophyta (talk) 01:40, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
  3. Per Zar2gar1 Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 06:24, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
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Add Molecular assembler

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Same as above. 22 intewikis, but just ~65 daily page views. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. As nominator. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
Oppose
  1. Oppose, close to borderline for me, but article even says it's more focused on the speculative idea, not mundane things like ribosomes. Not opposed if it goes under Speculative fiction though. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
  2. Per Zar2gar1 Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 06:24, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
  3. I feel we shouldn't list any examples of emerging technologies, as the parent article is only V5. Makkool (talk) 06:37, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
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Add Molecular machine  5

Added 4-1. starship.paint (RUN) 13:13, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

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Continuing. 32 intewikis, ~135 daily page views. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. As nominator. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
  2. Support, first impression is the article could distinguish natural and artificial instances better (article split?) Doesn't make the concept less vital though. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
  3. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 04:53, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
  4. Interstellarity (talk) 00:16, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
Oppose
  1. I feel we shouldn't list any examples of emerging technologies, as the parent article is only V5. Makkool (talk) 06:37, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
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Add Self-replication  5

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Ditto, but somewhat broader concept. 19 intewikis, ~97 daily page views. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. As nominator. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
  2. Strong support, but under Science Basics, maybe around the same area we list System. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
  3. Support under Science Basics, per Zar2gar1. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 04:54, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
  4. Support under Science Basics - a broad enough concept to be listed. Makkool (talk) 06:37, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
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Add Megastructure

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Parent for a ton of interesting concepts related to future engineering. 12 intewikis, ~290 daily page views. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. As nominator. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
Oppose
  1. Oppose, seems like the article itself can't decide if it includes currently feasible structures or only more speculative, larger ones. However, would support an article that split out the more feasible bits or Megaproject. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
  2. Per Zar2gar1 -- Marchantiophyta (talk) 01:40, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
  3. Would rather list Megaproject instead. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 06:24, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
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Add Dyson sphere

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Perhapos the best known megastructure proposal. 42 intewikis, ~1,9k daily page views. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. As nominator. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
Oppose
  1. Oppose, another one too sci-fi for me to put under Tech. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
  2. Per Zar2gar1 -- Marchantiophyta (talk) 01:40, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
  3. Per Zar2gar1 Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 06:24, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
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Add Matrioshka brain

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More refined version of the above. 19 intewikis, ~315 daily page views. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. As nominator. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
Oppose
  1. Oppose, another one too sci-fi for me to put under Tech. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
  2. Per Zar2gar1 -- Marchantiophyta (talk) 01:40, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
  3. Per Zar2gar1 Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 06:24, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
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Add Technological convergence  5

ADDED
Added 4-0. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 06:20, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

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"the tendency for technologies that were originally unrelated to become more closely integrated and even unified as they develop and advance." 24 intewikis, ~86 daily page views. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. As nominator. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
  2. Strong support, another good article for context around technology. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
  3. Per Zar2gar1 -- Marchantiophyta (talk) 01:40, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
  4. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 06:52, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
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Add Text-to-image model

Not added 1-3. No comments in over 2 weeks. starship.paint (RUN) 10:43, 2 August 2024 (UTC) starship.paint (RUN) 10:43, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

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Covers DALL-E, Stable Diffusion and Midjourney. This type of AI in particular has sparked debate about human-made vs. AI art.

Support
  1. As Nom.--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 13:20, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
    Per nom. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 03:45, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
Oppose
  1. Per Aurangzebra. feminist🩸 (talk) 02:38, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
  2. Per Aurangzebra. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 13:33, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
  3. per Aurangzebra. starship.paint (RUN) 13:17, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
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  1. I think this could start a slippery slope where we will feel compelled to list all modalities when they are inevitably released widely (text-to-video model, AI code generation which does not even have a page yet etc.). Maybe we want to do this (after all, we already do have Speech synthesis  4 which is text-to-speech but this is a much more mature and widely used technology). But I feel like why bloat the list when your proposal for Generative artificial intelligence already covers all of these subfields and more. Aurangzebra (talk) 21:16, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
    Looks like I was only a week or so off: https://openai.com/sora. Aurangzebra (talk) 20:43, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
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Add Feature phone

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We already list Smartphone so this makes sense as a logical addition. Interstellarity (talk) 19:03, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. Interstellarity (talk) 19:03, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
Oppose
  1. Feature phones only came to be distinguished as "feature phones" upon the popularization of smartphones, at which point the category of "mobile phone that retains the form factor of earlier generations of mobile telephones" has become a relatively niche product. I think listing both Smartphone  4 and History of mobile phones  5 adequately cover the subject. feminist🩸 (talk) 09:57, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
  2. The concept of a feature phone is becoming more unimportant as time continues, and I think if we add it as a VA now, it will be removed in 10 years anyway. Mathwriter2718 (talk) 20:05, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  3. Per above. People are increasingly opting for smart watches, if they want a phone without smartphone functions. Makkool (talk) 09:28, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
Neutral
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Add Suicide intervention  5

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Added 4–1. Makkool (talk) 18:08, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

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The sibling topic to Suicide prevention  5, this is what you do to stop a suicide if you are past the point of prevention. It is a pretty important topic to Suicide  3, and appears a lot more than prevention in pop culture.

Support
  1. As nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 13:34, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
  2. Don't see why this wouldn't be Level 5. That said, while they technically fit under Death, would the suicide-related articles make more sense somewhere under Health? -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 21:38, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
  3. If Suicide prevention gets to level 4, my support will be stronger. Interstellarity (talk) 00:18, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
  4. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 21:59, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
Oppose
  1. A fairly common practice within the psychiatric field but not on the same level as for instance Kamikaze. The Blue Rider 19:46, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
    @The Blue Rider: I don't see why not, I would argue it is just as important as Suicide prevention  5, especially since it has more of a presence in culture due to being the default way of stopping a suicide in fiction. Besides, Suicide  3 is VA3 and this is a notable enough subtopic to make the list. As you said, it is a fairly common practice. The comparison to Kamikaze also doesn't make much sense to me, since that was part of the Japanese military and not something happening to everyday people. QuicoleJR (talk) 20:18, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
    Kamikaze is a type of suicide thus the comparison. It's a common practice in psychiatric but it's relatively minor, in the sense that it just consists in a couple of questions on whether people have suicidal ideation, a time and date, access to lethal means and if that's so they probably will get admitted to the hospital, but that's the minority of people. Most of the work to mitigate suicide is done through prevention. The Blue Rider 16:34, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
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Add Cell potency

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Not added, no votes in five months. Makkool (talk) 16:25, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

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Vital concept for understanding organism development at all stages, and differentiating between cell types in the adult organism. Also a vital concept for understanding in vitro cell cultures, early embryo development and more. GraziePrego (talk) 02:36, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

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Add Induced pluripotent stem cell

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Not added, no votes in five months. Makkool (talk) 16:25, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

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A huge milestone in in vitro modelling of embryo development that forms the foundation of huge amounts of research. GraziePrego (talk) 08:08, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

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Swap Tokyo Metropolitan Bureau of Transportation with Toei Subway

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Swapped 4–0. Makkool (talk) 17:17, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

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The Tokyo Metropolitan Bureau of Transportation is the operator of the much better known Toei Subway. Most (if not all) other rapid transit systems listed as VA are the transit systems themselves, rather than the operator of these transit systems. Notice how London Underground is listed as a VA, and Transport for London is not. Steelkamp (talk) 15:06, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. Nom
  2. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 03:43, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
  3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 05:30, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  4. per nom Makkool (talk) 09:28, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
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Neutral
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@Steelkamp: You forgot to add the customary at vital "support as nominator" vote. Also, please consider reviewing and voting on other VA proposals. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 18:25, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

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Remove Bay Area Rapid Transit

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Removed 4–0. Makkool (talk) 17:17, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

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It seems to be the least important of the US cities where their transit systems are listed. There really isn't anything standing out that make it vital. Interstellarity (talk) 21:45, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. Interstellarity (talk) 21:45, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
  2. feminist🩸 (talk) 15:35, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
  3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 05:30, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  4. Not famous or iconic Makkool (talk) 09:28, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
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Swap Indian Pacific out for The Ghan

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Indian Pacific removed 4-0. The Ghan not added 1–1. Makkool (talk) 09:28, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

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The Ghan is the more well-known Australian long-distance train in my experience. Though it is questionable whether either should be listed: the only other train service listed is the Orient Express  5.

Support
  1. Support as nom. J947 ‡ edits 00:47, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
  2. Support removal Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 13:07, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
  3. Support removal. feminist🩸 (talk) 12:53, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
  4. Support removal, not as iconic as Orient Express  5 Makkool (talk) 13:18, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
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  1. Oppose addition. It's questionable whether any train service should be listed. feminist🩸 (talk) 12:53, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
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Add Toyota Corolla  5

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Passed 4–0. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 01:22, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

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With over 50 million units sold, it is by far the best-selling car in history. The Corolla is emblematic of the Japanese car industry much like the Volkswagen Beetle  5 is for Germany.

Support
  1. As nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 05:15, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
  2. Per nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 22:11, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
  3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 11:25, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
  4. Definitely. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 02:32, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
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Add some basic biological processes to Basics

All added 4-0, proposed over 20 days ago, no comments in 10 days. starship.paint (RUN) 15:03, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

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Add Breathing  4

Something you do extremely often, every day. starship.paint (RUN) 08:17, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. as nom. starship.paint (RUN) 08:17, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
  2. Basic concept, this is the reason Lung  3 is VA3. QuicoleJR (talk) 11:37, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
  3. Easy support. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 02:35, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
  4. Support. Mathwriter2718 (talk) 18:14, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
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Add Blinking  5

Something you do extremely often, every day. starship.paint (RUN) 08:17, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. as nom. starship.paint (RUN) 08:17, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
  2. Basic concept. QuicoleJR (talk) 11:37, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
  3. Easy support. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 02:35, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
  4. Support. Mathwriter2718 (talk) 18:14, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
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Add Cardiac cycle  5

The heartbeat. Something you do extremely often, every minute. starship.paint (RUN) 08:17, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. as nom. starship.paint (RUN) 08:17, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
  2. Basic concept. QuicoleJR (talk) 11:37, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
  3. Easy support. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 02:35, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
  4. Support. Mathwriter2718 (talk) 18:14, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
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Add Connected space

Proposal merged with the one to remove Clopen. Mathwriter2718 (talk) 02:54, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

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Connectedness is one of the fundamental concepts of point-set topology. Mathwriter2718 (talk) 13:10, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

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  1. Mathwriter2718 (talk) 03:16, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
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Add Copying  5

Added 4-0, no comments in 5 months. starship.paint (RUN) 13:29, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

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A broad concept relating to information. Place under information technology?

Support
  1. As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 06:06, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
  2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 15:19, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
  3. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 16:15, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
  4. Support outside of Tech, this is really such a general & basic process, I feel almost like it belongs more in Philosophy somewhere. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 16:50, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
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Add Aroma compound  5

Added 4-0, no comments in 5 months. starship.paint (RUN) 13:38, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

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Fragrances are a major product.

Support
  1. As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 07:07, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
  2. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 13:13, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
  3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 13:35, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
  4. Support in Chemistry, even if many are produced artificially. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 16:50, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
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Add Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders  5 and International Classification of Diseases  5

Added 4-0. starship.paint (RUN) 13:41, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

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The two most popular diagnostic manuals in the world surely deserve a spot in the vital list. The Blue Rider 22:27, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. As nominator. The Blue Rider 22:27, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
  2. per nom. However, I think the DSM belongs under Nonfiction books in Arts (this is where we put Gray's Anatomy  5 which is also a medical reference). ICD is fine in Health, Medicine, and Disease. Aurangzebra (talk) 22:45, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
  3. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 05:30, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
  4. Interstellarity (talk) 00:22, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
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Add Productivity software

NO CONSENSUS
Not added 1-1. Makkool (talk) 16:54, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

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Type of software Microsoft Office and LibreOffice are. Interstellarity (talk) 10:53, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

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  1. Interstellarity (talk) 10:53, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
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  1. Too general.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 00:28, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
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Add Nicotiana  5

Added 4-0 - no votes in a month. starship.paint (RUN) 14:19, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

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The genus of the plants that are used to make Tobacco  4. The Blue Rider 00:29, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. As nominator. The Blue Rider 00:29, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
  2. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 04:52, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
  3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 05:30, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  4. Makkool (talk) 18:30, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
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Add Physical activity  5

Added 4-0, no comments in over a month. starship.paint (RUN) 14:26, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

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Notable omission. Interstellarity (talk) 19:33, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. Interstellarity (talk) 19:33, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
  2. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 08:04, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
  3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 05:30, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  4. Support. Mathwriter2718 (talk) 18:25, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
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Add Pharmaceutical industry  5

Added 4-0 - no comments in over a month. starship.paint (RUN) 14:22, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

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Pretty important alongside Pharmacy. Interstellarity (talk) 21:45, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. Interstellarity (talk) 21:45, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
  2. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 03:16, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
  3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 05:30, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  4. Support. Mathwriter2718 (talk) 18:25, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
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Food additive additions

All added 5-0 Food additive, 5-0 Sugar substitute, and 6-0 Food coloring. No comments in a month. starship.paint (RUN) 14:08, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

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These are a well-known part of everyday life that most people are at least familiar with, and they should be listed.

Add Food additive  5

Examples include Vinegar  4, among others. 59 interwikis.

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  1. As nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 13:04, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
  2. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 13:10, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
  3. per nom. Interstellarity (talk) 00:14, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
  4. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 05:30, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  5. Per nom Mathwriter2718 (talk) 20:09, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
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Add Sugar substitute  5

Commonly used additive to get the sweetness of sugar with less calories. 37 interwikis, rated High-Importance by WikiProject Food and Drink.

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  1. As nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 13:04, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
  2. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 13:10, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
  3. per nom. Interstellarity (talk) 00:14, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
  4. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 05:30, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  5. Support. Mathwriter2718 (talk) 18:16, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
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Add Food coloring  5

Adds color to food. Ask almost anyone, and they will know what it is. 35 interwikis.

Support
  1. As nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 13:04, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
  2. TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 02:46, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
  3. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 13:10, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
  4. per nom. Interstellarity (talk) 00:14, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
  5. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 05:30, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  6. Support. Mathwriter2718 (talk) 18:16, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
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Add Mobile computing

NO CONSENSUS
Not added 1-1. Makkool (talk) 16:54, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

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Very common topic in today's society especially with the rise of mobile devices. Interstellarity (talk) 00:48, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

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  1. Interstellarity (talk) 00:48, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
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  1. The term "mobile" as the opposite of "desktop" is an vital term. However, I think it refers to Mobile operating system and to a lesser extent Mobile device  4. One of those needs to be vital. Mobile computing sounds like it should be vital, but I don't really think it is.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:58, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
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Add Pioneer plaque

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Not added 1-0. Makkool (talk) 16:54, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

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Similar reasons to the voyager golden record. Interstellarity (talk) 21:42, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

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  1. Interstellarity (talk) 21:42, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
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Merger discussion of Boot (medicine) and Walking boot

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Boldly swapped in Orthopedic boot Makkool (talk) 12:11, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

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Please join the discussion at Talk:Boot_(medicine)#Merger_discussion.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:28, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

I have restored this notice. The bot noticed it was 60 days old with no comment. This restarts the clock.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:19, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
  • This discussion was finally closed with Boot (medicine) being merged into Orthopedic boot. I nominate that the latter replace the former on this list
    • I think that we can edit this boldly without voting. Our apparent consensus has been that redirects shouldn't be on the vital articles list. Boot (medicine) had enough support to be included back in January, and I don't think anyone would want it removed instead. So let's just swap orthopedic boot with it. Makkool (talk) 14:07, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
Support
  1. As nom. --TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:09, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
  2. Support adding Orthopedic boot and removing Boot (medicine). IDBLWK (talk) 04:06, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
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Add Zeppelin  5

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Added 4-0. Makkool (talk) 17:36, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

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A common type of airship, especially back in the day. Yes, we already have Rigid airship  5 listed, but I feel like this is different enough to also be listed, plus it has more interwikis and gets more pageviews on average than rigid airship. This should go alongside rigid airship, which is under Aviation [1].

Support
  1. As nominator. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 03:45, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
  2. per nom Makkool (talk) 09:28, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
  3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 12:05, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
  4. per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 23:06, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
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Add Civil aviation  5

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Added 5-0. Makkool (talk) 17:20, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

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We list Military aviation  5, but not its opposite. I think it's vital as well at this level.

Support
  1. As nom. Makkool (talk) 09:34, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
  2. I agree. Interstellarity (talk) 19:53, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
  3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 12:05, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
  4. feminist🩸 (talk) 05:54, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
  5. Makes sense. GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 03:33, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
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Add Animal testing  5

REDUNDANT
Withdrawn a duplicate proposition. Makkool (talk) 19:23, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

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A major issue not yet listed. Not sure of the place, maybe Science: Basics?

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  1. As nom. Makkool (talk) 18:32, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
@Makkool: There is already an active nomination for this higher up on the talk page. QuicoleJR (talk) 19:05, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
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Add Least squares

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Added 4–0. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 18:20, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

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Most common way to do a Regression analysis  4. The Blue Rider 16:21, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

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  1. As nominator. The Blue Rider 16:21, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
  2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 12:05, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
  3. Famous. Mathwriter2718 (talk) 20:06, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  4. 🍋‍🟩 OhnoitsvileplumeXD (talk) 02:24, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
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Add Document

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Added 4–0. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 18:21, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

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We type documents every day. Interstellarity (talk) 23:46, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

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  1. Interstellarity (talk) 23:46, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
  2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 15:11, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
  3. QuicoleJR (talk) 02:00, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
  4. Obviously. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 02:19, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
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Add Mohs scale (potential swap with Friedrich Mohs  5)

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Added Mohs scale 4–0. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 18:23, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

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This is probably the best known hardness scale for minerals. (Also, I know that this is paradoxical, but I would kind of like to remove the guy who created it. His page is very short, and it doesn't seem like anyone has bothered to write more than a couple of paragraphs on him.)

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  1. Support addition first and foremost. Support removal secondary. SailorGardevoir (talk) 04:44, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
  2. Support add, oppose removal. Aurangzebra (talk) 05:09, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
  3. Support add per nom, oppose removal as unnecessary. QuicoleJR (talk) 14:52, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
  4. Support addition, oppose removal. Interstellarity (talk) 00:02, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
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Add Airliner

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Added 4–0. Makkool (talk) 18:57, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

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We should list this since this is basically a passenger plane. Interstellarity (talk) 00:00, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

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  1. Interstellarity (talk) 00:00, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
  2. Millions ride on these every day. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 03:48, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
  3. Considering that Passenger aircraft redirects there. feminist🩸 (talk) 05:55, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
  4. Makkool (talk) 17:36, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
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Add Animal testing  5

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Added 4–0. Makkool (talk) 19:23, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

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The use of animals in scientific experiments.

Support
  1. As nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 05:15, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
  2. Obviously. QuicoleJR (talk) 16:50, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
  3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 11:25, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
  4. Mathwriter2718 (talk) 03:21, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
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Add Toothpick

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Added 4–0. Makkool (talk) 10:17, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

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Important material in dentistry. Interstellarity (talk) 13:29, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

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  1. Interstellarity (talk) 13:29, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
  2. Sure. feminist🩸 (talk) 14:36, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
  3. QuicoleJR (talk) 01:20, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
  4. per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 17:03, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
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Add Clearcutting

WITHDRAWN
Proposing logging instead. Makkool (talk) 06:57, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

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According to the article, "the most common method of logging". Weird that it's not listed before. Add to Technology/Agriculture/Trees and forestry.

Support
  1. As nom. Makkool (talk) 18:10, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
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  1. It would make more sense to nominate Logging, which isn't a VA. Mathwriter2718 (talk) 12:03, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
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Remove Keystroke logging

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Removed 4-0. Makkool (talk) 17:36, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

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Too specific? Keyloggers are undeniably common, but it's always usually bundled in Spyware  5 (which it's a sub-article currently) and doesn't seems notable as a function on its own. 49p (talk) 17:51, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

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  1. 49p (talk) 17:52, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  2. Makkool (talk) 09:28, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
  3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 14:44, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
  4. feminist🩸 (talk) 07:08, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
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Remove HD DVD

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Removed 4-0. Makkool (talk) 10:23, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

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It lost the war for a high-definition optical disc format. I don't see how a format that lasted 2 years could be vital.

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  1. 49p (talk) 02:19, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
  2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 12:05, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
  3. feminist🩸 (talk) 07:01, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
  4. Makkool (talk) 06:12, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
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Remove EDonkey network

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Removed 4–0. Makkool (talk) 11:54, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

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A very (now) uncommon format, with BitTorrent  5 basically being a more popular option. I don't think it needs to be listed as it has little legacy.

Support
  1. 49p (talk) 02:24, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
  2. per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 22:36, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
  3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 12:05, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
  4. feminist🩸 (talk) 07:01, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
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Add Mathematical statistics  5

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Added 4–0. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 18:23, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

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An important area of mathematics.

Support
  1. As nominator. To probability and statistics. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 02:52, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
  2. Per nom. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 00:34, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
  3. per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 15:18, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
  4. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 12:05, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
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Remove .exe

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Removed 4-0. Makkool (talk) 10:23, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

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Not really seeing a reason to list it under a sub-VA5 of Executable  5. We don't even list Executable and Linkable Format. (ELF files). It doesn't make sense to list types of executable as all executables are tasked "to perform code" and different formats don't have much differences than the operating systems they run in.

Support
  1. 49p (talk) 02:33, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
  2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 12:05, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
  3. feminist🩸 (talk) 07:01, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
  4. Makkool (talk) 06:12, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
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Add Actinote zikani

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Not added 1-4. Makkool (talk) 17:17, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

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An extremely rare butterfly previously thought to be extinct, is now listed on the IUCN's The world's 100 most threatened species list. To be honest, every species on that list should probably be VA5'd, due to their significance in the field of extinction.

Support
  1. As nominator. Sir MemeGod :D (talk - contribs - created articles) 20:17, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
Oppose
  1. Despite its sad situation of being almost extinct it has close to zero biological and cultural influence. The Blue Rider 22:07, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
  2. I am really not sure why the rarest species would be the most important. starship.paint (RUN) 12:05, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
  3. Per The Blue Rider and starship.paint. Yes, it's an extremely rare species, but I can't see adding all of the 100 most threatened species, especially when it lists obscure stuff like Bazzania bhutanica. We can definitely add the more well known ones (if they aren't already listed), but not all of them, especially the ones with extremeley low interwikis and pageviews like this one. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 18:34, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
  4. The list referred to is a book that was published in 2012, by ZSL London Zoo in partnership with IUCN. It has not been updated since, and this species does not currently feature on the IUCN Red List. There are many, many Critically Endangered species including the once-common-with-my-lifetime European eel which potentially deserve it more. Big Blue Cray(fish) Twins (talk) 14:06, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
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Reason I V5R'd it is because it is on the list of The world's 100 most threatened species. All of these species are extremely significant in the field of extinction, and are, well, the world's 100 most threatened species. I don't see how they aren't significant.

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Remove Rutherford scattering

REDUNDANT
Was already removed. Makkool (talk) 15:37, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

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The article was merged into Rutherford scattering experiments  4. IDBLWK (talk) 04:24, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. IDBLWK (talk) 04:25, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
  2. Per nom. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 18:39, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
  3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 13:40, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
  4. Makkool (talk) 06:12, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
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Remove Plastics engineering

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Removed 4–0. Makkool (talk) 11:54, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

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The article was merged into Polymer engineering  5. IDBLWK (talk) 04:28, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. IDBLWK (talk) 04:28, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
  2. Per nom. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 18:40, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
  3. Per nom. GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 03:31, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
  4. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 13:40, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
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Add Mpox

Last comment 29 days ago. Added 6-0. QuicoleJR (talk) 18:51, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

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Add to Wikipedia:Vital_articles/Level/5/Biology_and_health_sciences/Health#Viral_diseases. Seems like a vital article since it is an epidemic in Africa. Interstellarity (talk) 00:41, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. Interstellarity (talk) 00:41, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
  2. Absolutely. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 01:24, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
  3. 49p (talk) 02:21, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
  4. --LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 07:51, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
  5. per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 15:18, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
  6. Very important African disease. QuicoleJR (talk) 19:46, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
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Add biogeographic realms

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No interest Makkool (talk) 12:14, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

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Add all 8 individual realms under Biogeographic realm  5. We have still plenty of space in Biology to include them.

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  1. As nom. Makkool (talk) 19:57, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
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Add Birth defect  5

Last comment 2 months ago. Added 4-0. QuicoleJR (talk) 12:49, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

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More properly known as congenital disorders. “Birth defects affected about 96 million people as of 2015”.

Support
  1. As nominator. Tabu Makiadi (talk) 18:15, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
  2. Easy support. JpTheNotSoSuperior (talk) 00:41, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
  3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 02:00, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
  4. Basic parent topic. QuicoleJR (talk) 13:47, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
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Add emerging/futurism concepts (remaining nominations)

A bit sf-y, but discussed in science. The articles we have are generally about science, not sf treatment of those (fiction is generally relegated to seprate articles). Perhaps some of this belongs under physics and not technology, but that's a minor issue. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Add Asteroid mining

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Added 5–1. Makkool (talk) 18:06, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

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Big industry of the future, unless we self-destruct :) 22 intewikis, ~375 daily page views. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. As nominator. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
  2. Per nom Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 06:24, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
  3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 05:30, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
  4. per nom. Interstellarity (talk) 11:59, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
  5. Support, comment below  Carlwev  13:36, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
Oppose
  1. I feel we shouldn't list any examples of emerging technologies, as the parent article is only V5. Makkool (talk) 06:37, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
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  • I think this fits in OK with other articles already listed. Although it is an educated guess, the concept is very likely going to happen in the future, and it's not exceptionally theoretical, like other concepts. We list time travel at lev 4 and at lev 5 we list space colonization and worm hole, the latter theoretical like time travel, and the former is possible, just difficult and not quite here yet unless you count the space stations. Asteroid mining will probably be significant in the not too distant future, and regardless of when and if it ever happens I'm sure the concept will be written and read about, studied and discussed a bit. Even if we still aren't doing it in 50 years, that argument hasn't stopped us listing time travel, worm hole or space colonization.  Carlwev  13:36, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
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Add Self-replicating machine

NO CONSENSUS
Not added 1-2. No new votes in 123 days. Makkool (talk) 18:06, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

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Some key concepts related to Nanotechnology  4. 14 intewikis, ~150 daily page views. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Support
  1. As nominator. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
Oppose
  1. I feel we shouldn't list any examples of emerging technologies, as the parent article is only V5. Makkool (talk) 06:37, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
  2. We added Self-replication  5. @Zar2gar1: any change in opinion? starship.paint (RUN) 13:05, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
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