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What days of the week were 31 January 1961, 21 December 1964, 3 December 1928 and 12 July 1935 please? Ann Stirland

Tuesday, Monday, Monday, Friday. ... (talk) 08:46, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is this officially the worst day of the year?

30th January sucks! Look at all the deaths, executions, assassinations, and the release of Windows Vista!

I am needing some information when it comes to the crash with the Kenya Airway that happened in 2000. I think I had family on there and I am needing to know the names of the victims that did not make it out alive. Thanks Alecia Dawson

I also found out that Jan 31st 1961 was a tuesday and december 21 1964 was a monday. the other two i could not find

2012 notes

Moved to Ineligble: Menai Suspension Bridge (maintenance)
Rescued from Ineligible (unused): MV Wilhelm Gustloff (already have another WW2 item on), The Hallé (fixed after update was done)
Omitted: Oliver Cromwell's head, San Francisco, William Goebel, Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi, Bloody Sunday (1972)
Included: Martyrs' Day (India) (new observance, first appearance) , Charles I of England (6th appearance, last in 2010), Radiosonde (5th appearance, last in 2010), Raid at Cabanatuan (2nd appearance, last in 2010), MS Hans Hedtoft (first appearance), Kenya Airways Flight 431 (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 23:24, 28 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

2013 notes

Omitted: Charles I of England; Radiosonde; Raid at Cabanatuan; MS Hans Hedtoft; Kenya Airways Flight 431
Included: Peace of Bautzen (first appearance); The Hallé (first appearance); MV Wilhelm Gustloff (first appearance); Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi (10th appearance, last in 2011); Elk Cloner (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 04:54, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

2014 notes

New articles (unused): Tet Offensive (moved from January 31)
Omitted: Peace of Bautzen; The Hallé (ineligible—maintenance); MV Wilhelm Gustloff; Elk Cloner
Included: Oliver Cromwell's head (2nd appearance, last in 2011); San Francisco (2nd appearance, last in 2011); January 1964 South Vietnamese coup (2nd appearance, last in 2010; 50th anniversary); Bloody Sunday (1972) (2nd appearance, last in 2011)
Repeats: Mahatma Gandhi (2nd consecutive appearance, 11 total)

—howcheng {chat} 11:44, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

2015 notes

Omitted: Oliver Cromwell's head; San Francisco; Assassination of Mahatma Gandhi (blurb previously featured Mahatma Gandhi, which is currently ineligible); January 1964 South Vietnamese coup; Bloody Sunday (1972)
Included: Charles I of England (7th appearance, last in 2012); Menai Suspension Bridge (5th appearance, last in 2010; rescued from Ineligible); Rudolf, Crown Prince of Austria (first appearance); MV Wilhelm Gustloff (2nd appearance, last in 2013; 70th anniversary); Tet Offensive (7th appearance, last in 2010)

—howcheng {chat} 08:06, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

2016 notes

Omitted: Charles I of England; Menai Suspension Bridge; Rudolf, Crown Prince of Austria; MV Wilhelm Gustloff; Tet Offensive
Included: Peace of Bautzen (2nd appearance, last in 2013); Richard Lawrence (failed assassin) (first appearance); Radiosonde (6th appearance, last in 2012); MS Hans Hedtoft (2nd appearance, last in 2012); Kenya Airways Flight 431 (2nd appearance, last in 2012)

—howcheng {chat} 06:51, 29 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

2017 notes

Moved to Ineligible: Elk Cloner (maintenance)
Omitted: Peace of Bautzen; Richard Lawrence (failed assassin); Radiosonde; MS Hans Hedtoft; Kenya Airways Flight 431
Included: Oliver Cromwell's head (3rd appearance, last in 2014); San Francisco (3rd appearance, last in 2014); Raid at Cabanatuan (2nd appearance, last in 2012); Bloody Sunday (1972) (3rd appearance, last in 2014); Naro-1 (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 08:26, 30 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

2018 query

Could the Barbara La Marr listing please be restored? I only put that in there a few days ago; it's never been featured, before. :-( Stolengood (talk) 02:34, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

2018 notes

Moved to Ineligible: Menai Suspension Bridge (maintenance); Rudolf, Crown Prince of Austria (maintenance); MV Wilhelm Gustloff (maintenance)
New articles (unused): Johannes Fibiger
Omitted: Oliver Cromwell's head; San Francisco; Raid at Cabanatuan; Bloody Sunday (1972); Naro-1
Included: Peace of Bautzen (3rd appearance, last in 2016; 1000th anniversary); Bristol Channel floods, 1607 (first appearance); Mahatma Gandhi (12th appearance, last in 2014; 70th anniversary; blurb previously featured Assassination of Mahatma Gandhi, which is currently ineligible); Tet Offensive (8th appearance, last in 2015; 50th anniversary); Kenya Airways Flight 431 (3rd appearance, last in 2016); Giovanni Pietro Francesco Agius de Soldanis (first appearance); Franklin D. Roosevelt (first appearance); Barbara La Marr (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 16:37, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

2019 notes

Use Charles I (featured article), 370th anniversary of his beheading, for the picture. Made a number of other changes. Feedback welcomed. Jonathunder (talk) 23:42, 22 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- @Jonathunder: Nice work. Some notes:
  1. The fact that Assassination of Mahatma Gandhi has {{refimprove}} is not a reason to take it out, because it's not the bold article.
  2. Normally I like have two pre-20th century articles (three at most), but we have four here. The 1018 item didn't need to repeat because there's a large number of eligible articles in the pool, so let's replace that with a more modern one.
  3. Because we have a large pool of eligible articles, look at the notes from previous years so that we can show articles that have been left off for several years.
  4. I picked a different image because 1) as a TIFF, it was kind of fuzzy in the thumbnail, and 2) that one had a lot of dead space.
- Thanks. —howcheng {chat} 23:04, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

2019 notes

Omitted: Peace of Bautzen; Bristol Channel floods, 1607; Mahatma Gandhi; Tet Offensive; Kenya Airways Flight 431; Giovanni Pietro Francesco Agius de Soldanis; Franklin D. Roosevelt; Barbara La Marr
Included: Wareru (2nd appearance, last in 2013; previously appeared on April 4); Charles I of England (9th appearance, last in 2017; last time appeared on January 4 because we were desperate for articles that day); Richard Lawrence (failed assassin) (2nd appearance, last in 2016); MS Hans Hedtoft (3rd appearance, last in 2016; 60th anniversary); Everard Digby (first appearance); Johannes Fibiger (first appearance); Arthur Chu (first appearance)
Repeats: Kenya Airways Flight 431 (2nd consecutive appearance, 4 total)

—howcheng {chat} 18:26, 30 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

2020 notes

Omitted: Wareru; Charles I of England; MS Hans Hedtoft; Everard Digby; Johannes Fibiger; Arthur Chu
Included: Oliver Cromwell's head (4th appearance, last in 2017); Raid at Cabanatuan (3rd appearance, last in 2017; 75th anniversary); Rudolf Caracciola (first appearance); Patrick Heron (first appearance; 100th birthday); Professor Longhair (first appearance; 40th anniversary)
Repeats: Richard Lawrence (failed assassin) (2nd consecutive appearance, 3 total); Kenya Airways Flight 431 (3rd consecutive appearance, 5 total; 20th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 16:45, 31 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

2021 notes

Moved to Ineligible: William Goebel (maintenance)
New articles (ineligible): 30 January 1939 Reichstag speech/Hitler's prophecy (TFA for 2021); Balthild (date not certain)
Omitted: Richard Lawrence (failed assassin); Raid at Cabanatuan; Kenya Airways Flight 431; Rudolf Caracciola; Patrick Heron; Professor Longhair
Included: Peace of Bautzen (4th appearance, last in 2018); Bloody Sunday (1972) (4th appearance, last in 2017); Naro-1 (2nd appearance, last in 2017); Giovanni Pietro Francesco Agius de Soldanis (3rd appearance, last in 2020; also appeared on October 30, his birthday); Franklin D. Roosevelt (2nd appearance, last in 2018); John Bardeen (first appearance, 30th anniversary)
Repeats: Oliver Cromwell's head (2nd consecutive appearance, 5 total)

—howcheng {chat} 03:53, 2 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

2022 notes

Moved to Ineligible: San Francisco (maintenance)
Omitted: Peace of Bautzen; Oliver Cromwell's head; Naro-1; Giovanni Pietro Francesco Agius de Soldanis; Franklin D. Roosevelt; John Bardeen
Included: 1607 Bristol Channel floods (2nd appearance, last in 2018); Richard Lawrence (failed assassin) (4th appearance, last in 2020); 30 January 1939 Reichstag speech/Hitler's prophecy (both: first appearance; rescued from Ineligible); William More (died 1600) (first appearance); Angela of the Cross (first appearance); Abdullah II of Jordan (first appearance)
Repeats: Bloody Sunday (1972) (2nd consecutive appearance, 5 total; 50th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 06:56, 31 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

2023 notes

Copying over an unresolved WP:ERRORS discussion:

Richard Lawrence (failed assassin)
"1835 – Richard Lawrence became the first person to attempt to assassinate a sitting US president when he failed to kill Andrew Jackson at the US Capitol (assassination attempt pictured) and was subdued by the crowd."

The word "sitting" is ambiguous here. Did the attempted assassination occur while he was in office, or while he was on a chair? Maybe there's a better word we could use? -- RoySmith (talk) 00:56, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
Replace "sitting" with "current"? Schwede 66 02:42, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 02:55, 31 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

And another:

1607 Bristol Channel floods The SA guidelines state "the event should have occurred on the day in question in the calendar in use at the time (per MOS:JG)". England did not switch to the Gregorian calendar until 1750 so this should feature on 20 January - Dumelow (talk) 06:42, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 02:57, 31 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]