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01:44, 30 December 2023 review of submission by M066690

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Sir/Ma'am,

BLUF: I am trying to contribute to the knowledge of society concerning an official US Government Organization operating in Japan. The mission of MSC Japan is important and having a Wikipedia page is important for the public record. I respectfully request to know a more in depth reason why this article was denied publishing. I'd prefer not to keep the public in the dark about this organization and request "reference" assistance to make corrections in order to move forward. Thank you in advance for your assistance.

Denial reasons are below, however, references given were official government websites (reliable), US Military Public Affairs websites and Stars & Stripes, an official Military News reporting organization (in depth). These articles include an impartial description of the Command and its mission, and are not part of the Command in question (i.e. secondary). If you google "MSC SSU Japan" or "MSC Japan" you will see all several related articles. But as with many government Organizations, the government does not provide many official websites with additional information due to cost savings.

Article was denied publishing due to the following: This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are: 

   in-depth (not just passing mentions about the subject)
   reliable
   secondary
   independent of the subject

I've used Wikipedia for the last 20 years, and I've never had such an issue with contributing knowledge. Please assist me with making whatever necessary corrections to successfully get this article published. I have a copy of the official Command Brief (unclassified), however I don't believe this will assist as were only trying to site items already on the internet and not contribute new information.

Thanks & Very Respectfully, m066690 M066690 (talk) 01:44, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@M066690: the decline reasons contain sufficient information about what needs to be addressed. Please read them and make the necessary improvements accordingly. – DreamRimmer (talk) 05:21, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The point is, M066690, that Wikipedia is not interested in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. Your references are all to official sources, which are not independent of the operation. You need to find books, newspapers, or learned journals, which discuss the operation, and base your article on those. ColinFine (talk) 13:29, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
M066690, we already have a fairly detailed article Military Sealift Command. I do not see the need for a separate article about this organization's activities in just Japan. Cullen328 (talk) 22:36, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Cullen328. I respect your opinion, but isn't Wikipedia's goal to be a comprehensive collection of all of the knowledge in the world? Isn't it to be a widely accessible and free encyclopedia comprehensive of information on all branches of knowledge? Why hinder that effort? What is achieved?
Military Sealift Command (and that article) is about just the headquarters for separate Command's located throughout the world which all have separate mission sets. Military Sealift Command Japan is an entirely separate Command which is responsible for operations throughout an entire Country and a Fleet of over 50+ US Military vessels. MSC Japan has been in operation since the end of WWII and was a huge component of supporting military operations during the Korean War, Vietnam War, and War on Terror.
I'll take your suggestion as a request for more historical information and I'm open to additional suggestions to improve this article. Thank you & V/r M066690 (talk) 02:27, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I think a better use of this knowledge would be at most a section in the article Cullen linked. blueskiesdry… (cloudy contribs…) 02:28, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your opinion, but once the article is complete, it would be too long to add as a section. You're really helping me see what I need to do to complete the article, thank you. M066690 (talk) 02:32, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

02:34, 30 December 2023 review of submission by Therefortheroom

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To edit and approve the submission Therefortheroom (talk) 02:34, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Therefortheroom: your submission was declined, and the reason for this decline is that it does not meet notability criteria and doesn't cite any sources. Please note that the content of every article, especially BLPs, must be backed up by reliable sources. Now, you need to establish its notability by adding reliable sources that provide significant coverage of this subject. I noticed you included external links in the body of the article; you might want to add them as references. For guidance on proper citation, you can refer to WP:CITE. – DreamRimmer (talk) 03:39, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you pointing out about the external links. I misread that by adding them that they were also added as references. I’ll go back to the drawing board when I have more time and make the corrections. Again, very helpful. Thank you. M066690 (talk) 08:56, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Don't hesitate to reach out—I'm always here and more than happy to assist you anytime you need! – DreamRimmer (talk) 10:36, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

02:50, 30 December 2023 review of submission by Rimithapa

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I am unable to write and submit. Is there any wiki writer who can help me publish. I have all the supporting citations. Rimithapa (talk) 02:50, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

We appreciate your effort, but unfortunately, your submission was declined. The reviewer mentioned that it seems to have been generated by an LLM and resembles a CV. It requires some manual improvement. Remember, LLM content shouldn't be directly added to Wikipedia; you can use it for grammar checks, etc. Take a moment to review the decline reasons provided by the reviewer in the grey box within the template and in the comment section. Make the necessary improvements, and then click on the resubmit button at the end of the template to give it another shot for review. – DreamRimmer (talk) 03:17, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

03:42, 30 December 2023 review of submission by EvgeniyGolubev

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Could you please tell me why my article was declined? EvgeniyGolubev (talk) 03:42, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

read the decline notice. ltbdl (talk) 03:54, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

05:01, 30 December 2023 review of submission by GriffinRosinski

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How can I make it better? GriffinRosinski (talk) 05:01, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@GriffinRosinski: This draft has been rejected and won't be considered further. – DreamRimmer (talk) 05:05, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

10:56, 30 December 2023 review of submission by 2409:40C4:EE:8D6F:1067:33FF:FE22:5C48

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I am new here ..plzz give some ideas or assistance.. 2409:40C4:EE:8D6F:1067:33FF:FE22:5C48 (talk) 10:56, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This draft has been rejected and will therefore not be considered further. Please note that Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not a cookery book or how-to-guide. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:59, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

11:41, 30 December 2023 review of submission by "Jhony777"

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we have imdb reference link for the movies where this artist work for and fm links kindly tell us what we need to add in our article as reference we need your guide Thanks. "Jhony777" (talk) 11:41, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@"Jhony777": Your draft has been rejected and will therefore not be considered further. It's important to note that IMDb, being a self-published source, is not considered reliable. – DreamRimmer (talk) 13:57, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

13:42, 30 December 2023 review of submission by Nerdofhistory

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darft getting rejected Nerdofhistory (talk) 13:42, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Nerdofhistory: your draft has been rejected and won't be considered further. If you have additional information or sources that could establish its notability, you may directly message the rejecting reviewer. – DreamRimmer (talk) 13:50, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nerdofhistory, assistant inspector-general of Registration and Stamps is not a plausible claim of notability. Cullen328 (talk) 22:25, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

16:41, 30 December 2023 review of submission by 98.186.55.18

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Can you Please Upload the 2025 NCAA men's Final Four Logo please i would accept it. 98.186.55.18 (talk) 16:41, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This isn't the appropriate venue for requesting file uploads. – DreamRimmer (talk) 16:51, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

16:49, 30 December 2023 review of submission by Rahulbumperkumar

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Sir Sir please help me sir please Rahulbumperkumar (talk) 16:49, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Rahulbumperkumar: your draft has been rejected and will therefore not be considered further. – DreamRimmer (talk) 16:53, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

16:59, 30 December 2023 review of submission by Jackeyed One

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I was given the following editorial advice to: "External links should also be removed or converted to inline citations where appropriate. Greenman (talk) 16:03, 23 December 2023"

I substituted several of the references that were external links to citation links in relevant passages. The external links are visible in read mode but when I go to editi mode the eternal links are not visible. Please advise. Jackeyed One (talk) 16:59, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Jackeyed One, your draft violates the Neutral point of view, which is a core content policy. You have written a hagiography, not a neutral encyclopedia article. You need to remove all the excessive praise in Wikipedia's voice. It is not appropriate. Cullen328 (talk) 22:08, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Jackeyed One, you seem to be confusing references with external links. Read Referencing for beginners, and format your references to display bibliographic information rather than bare URLs. Take a look at Wikipedia:Good articles/Media and drama, in particular the section at the very end: "Theatre, musical theatre, dance, and opera". Take a close look at a few articles there to see the correct way to write neutrally, and to structure references and external links. Cullen328 (talk) 22:20, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

18:36, 30 December 2023 review of submission by Vesper.and.Twilight

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Hello -- I am trying to rename (move) the page title "Mark Steven Morton" to "Mark Morton" since that latter name is the one this author uses on his published works. However, when I try to do so, I receive the following message: "You have not specified a target page or user on which to perform this function." Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. 

Vesper.and.Twilight (talk) 18:36, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Vesper.and.Twilight: that article was published two months ago, whereas this help desk is for drafts undergoing the AfC review process.
In any case, you cannot move this to 'Mark Morton', since a disambiguation page already exists at that title Mark Morton. You could perhaps move it to something like 'Mark Morton (author)', but I would actually suggest leaving it where it is, as that seems as good a way of disambiguating as anything. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 19:00, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, DoubleGrazing -- What you suggest (leaving it as is) sounds like the best option. I appreciate your guidance. Best wishes, Vesper Vesper.and.Twilight (talk) 00:32, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

19:49, 30 December 2023 review of submission by 2600:1016:B072:C478:2CCA:5CEA:B674:BF59

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I want people to know the backstory of this channel 2600:1016:B072:C478:2CCA:5CEA:B674:BF59 (talk) 19:49, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is NOT the place to do that, we only report on topics that are notable. Theroadislong (talk) 20:00, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

23:26, 30 December 2023 review of submission by Encyclopédisme

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Please review my draft. Encyclopédisme (talk) 23:26, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You have submitted it and it is pending. 331dot (talk) 00:03, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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