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[edit]13:08:09, 23 May 2022 review of submission by PavanKishoreG
[edit]This page belongs a young, dynamic & honest politician from Tamilnadu, India. He belongs to the current ruling party. The name is Bharatiya Janata Party. Its very important that the Wiki page of this Gentleman is up and running. PavanKishoreG (talk) 13:08, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- And what is your question, @PavanKishoreG? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 13:19, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- Hi,
- The Above page Annamalai Kuppusamy is not getting published. Need help to get it published PavanKishoreG (talk) 13:51, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- @PavanKishoreG: this has been previously recreated so many times that the title has been protected. It has been deleted following an AfD discussion. Now several reviewers have looked at the latest draft, and it has been rejected. You should consider this the end of the road for this draft. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:01, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
13:20:30, 23 May 2022 review of draft by Luciasteele
[edit]- Luciasteele (talk · contribs)
Hello Owlf,
I am trying to creating entries for our journal, as I found similar sister publication listed in wikipedia. I am not very experienced, but I have created new introductory texts, which - like in this case - are not accepted. However, it is basically the journal presentation, I cannot say different things. What I don't understand is why a similar entry by a previous publisher of this journal was accepted (obviously, as it is an entry in Wiki: Drug_Target_Insights
Could you guide me in making this new entry possible? Thank you for your help.
Lucia
Luciasteele (talk) 13:20, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- Hi @Luciasteele: apart from the stated decline reason (promotional tone), this draft also fails for having no referencing, and therefore not establishing the notability of the subject — both cardinal sins in the world of Wikipedia. You need reliable sources to support all the material statements made (see WP:REFB), and for those sources to be independent and provide significant coverage of the subject, to demonstrate notability (see WP:GNG). -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 13:54, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks DoubleGrazing, I see what you mean. so it would be relevant that this notation was made from an independent supporter of the journal, right? as my guideline was Drug Target Insights (where I also suggested edits which were accepted) how was this started initially? is it possible to find out?
- thanks a million!
- Lucia Luciasteele (talk) 14:10, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- I'm not entirely sure what you're asking, but just to say that I wouldn't too much look to the Drug Target Insights article as the standard to aspire to, because I'm not at all sure that it meets the notability criteria WP:GNG / WP:JOURNALCRIT either. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:30, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
15:38:20, 23 May 2022 review of draft by Ashimneupaney
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Where do I need to make changes? Can you please pinpoint it? I have added a few independent sources too in the article. If you still have doubt about Nepal Live Today, you can check the website at nepallivetoday.com. It is an independent English-language news portal in Nepal, and has been covering news from Nepal and beyond. If the article still doesn't meet the guidelines of Wikipedia, please put the article for deletion. Thank you.
Ashimneupaney (talk) 15:38, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
16:50:09, 23 May 2022 review of submission by PenneSardi
[edit]- PenneSardi (talk · contribs)
We made some further changes to the page for review. Is there anything specific we can remove or add to allow the page to be published? This page seems to fit a standard of information as related to other restaurants so we are not sure what information is not accurate or backed up by a source?
Eg. Maggiano's Little Italy, Bojangles (restaurant), Prezzo (restaurant) - This page sites awards and positive information about the company?
Please help!
PenneSardi (talk) 16:50, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- Who is "we"? Accounts are strictly single person use only. The draft is just blatant advertising, it was rejected, it won't be considered further. Theroadislong (talk) 16:54, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
I am very confused how I could have described this festival and what it entails in any more neutral a tone or point of view than I already have. So I guess that's the first thing I seem to struggle with around here: I don't know how to sufficiently describe various facets of a subject in a way that gives a comprehensive account, without it somehow coming off as "advertising" to your reviewers.
Furthermore, there seems to be an an issue with the references I provided. However, two of them are The New York Times, another is a leading design publication, and the only reference made to a publication that was put out by the city of New York is about matter of fact pieces of info. So again, I struggle to understand, what could be considered more reliable than these sources. SleepyWhippet (talk) 19:58, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- “The festival is an eclectic mix of independently hosted exhibitions” and “the festival highlights a wide gamut of design related fields and activites” sound VERY promotional in tone. Theroadislong (talk) 20:07, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Theroadislong I guess that's my struggle, it is in fact quite eclectic and does indeed cover many types of design fields. So while I understand those attributes can be interpreted as promotional, sometimes they are just facts. How does one say them on wikipedia? I did try to reword that very sentence just now, but I'm still not sure if that's neutral enough for WP. SleepyWhippet (talk) 20:18, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- I think the answer is we don't say them! Wkipedia just requires the dry facts with no adjectives. Theroadislong (talk) 20:20, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Theroadislong thank you, that actually has been the clearest instruction I've received thus far! SleepyWhippet (talk) 20:24, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- I think the answer is we don't say them! Wkipedia just requires the dry facts with no adjectives. Theroadislong (talk) 20:20, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Theroadislong I guess that's my struggle, it is in fact quite eclectic and does indeed cover many types of design fields. So while I understand those attributes can be interpreted as promotional, sometimes they are just facts. How does one say them on wikipedia? I did try to reword that very sentence just now, but I'm still not sure if that's neutral enough for WP. SleepyWhippet (talk) 20:18, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
20:35:05, 23 May 2022 review of draft by Kostaru76
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Kostaru76 (talk) 20:35, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
Excuse me but what exactly is not correct with my sources? I used Harvard referencing style and sources are from Google scholar. These are academic and peer-reviewed journals. Thank you for your time! Looking forward to your guidance and support!
- Kostaru76 The issue is not the sources you have used, but much of the draft appears to be unsourced. If the unsourced portions are supported by the existing sources, you need more inline citations. 331dot (talk) 20:53, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
20:38:08, 23 May 2022 review of submission by 2601:240:DB7F:F8D0:4438:686F:16CE:F6D1
[edit]Greetings! I am William S. Bike, and I am asking you to reconsider your rejection of my draft of a Linda Howe page for Wikipedia, and that you will allow it to be posted.
You called Ms. Howe not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. I would like to respectfully disagree with this point. Ms. Howe is the author of four books—two with Sounds True Publishing and one with Hay House, which are major publishers in the self-help genre. Her fifth book will be published next month by yet another publisher, Modern Wisdom Press. Her books are therefore desirable among competitive publishers. Her book How to Read the Akashic Records is ranked #65 in the Parapsychology category on Amazon.com. Ms. Howe has sold thousands of books over the years. She therefore is a significant author.
Ms. Howe is the first person to make the Akashic Records (a subject long ago accepted for a listing on Wikipedia) accessible to the masses in several countries. She therefore is a significant pathbreaker. Since Wikipedia has that entry on the Akashic Records, if the Akashic Records are a significant enough subject for Wikipedia to allow an entry on it, it seems logical that a top author of books on the subject should be included on Wikipedia as well.
She also is one of the leading teachers of the Akashic Records in the world, having taught thousands of students in several countries. This makes her internationally significant.
Ms. Howe has won four awards from the Coalition of Visionary Resources, making her acknowledged as a significant figure from an important outside organization.
Let me give you some information about my own credentials. I’ve been successfully posting on Wikipedia for about 15 years. I am a career journalist and media expert. I’ve been published in over 65 venues, including the Chicago Sun-Times and university publications at Loyola University Chicago, DePaul University, the University of Chicago, the University of Illinois Chicago, the University of Illinois Springfield, and the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign. I’ve been published in several peer-reviewed/refereed journals: the Delta Epsilon Sigma Journal, Nine: A Journal of Baseball History and Social Policy Perspectives, and the Review of Pacific Basin Financial Markets and Policies. I have appeared on CNN, and been quoted in Forbes, USA Today, Epoch Times, and other major media. I am the author of four books. I’ve earned more than 60 journalism awards, including the Peter Lisagor Award—the top honor in Chicago journalism. As a career journalist, media commentator, and contributor to referred journals, I understand the importance of accurate and viable sourcing and information, and I believe sources and information about Ms. Howe are sound.
Wikipedia already has an entry on Linda Moulton Howe, a journalist and film maker who covers aliens, cow mutilation, and crop circle conspiracies. I believe differentiating two authors who happen to have similar names is important to both of them.
So I hope you will reconsider rejection of this article about Ms. Howe and allow it to be published. I would welcome any advice about suggested changes that will help the article be accepted for Wikipedia. Thank you for your attention to this matter, and I hope you have a great week!
2601:240:DB7F:F8D0:4438:686F:16CE:F6D1 (talk) 20:38, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- The sources for the draft are, as the reviewer notes, inappropriate. No amount of editing can fix that. 331dot (talk) 20:48, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- The sources are dire, the tone is inappropriate and the awards are not notable Second Runner-Up Award? Theroadislong (talk) 20:59, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- If you can find a single review of any of her books in a reliable third party publication, you can add the book with source to the Akashic Records article in a "Literature" section immediately after the history section. TechnoTalk (talk) 23:50, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- The sources are dire, the tone is inappropriate and the awards are not notable Second Runner-Up Award? Theroadislong (talk) 20:59, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- The sources for the draft are, as the reviewer notes, inappropriate. No amount of editing can fix that. 331dot (talk) 20:48, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
22:23:02, 23 May 2022 review of submission by Ximeesc
[edit]Can someone help me check if my sources are following the criteria correctly? I want to prove that my submission qualifies for a Wikipedia article and that all the sources are reliable, secondary and independent of the subject but also show significant coverage. Thank you. Ximeesc (talk) 22:23, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- FYI - I'm helping TechnoTalk (talk) 23:44, 23 May 2022 (UTC)