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Dumb question, if I reply to someone on my talk page, to they get a notification? Helloimahumanbeing (talk) 05:50, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

@Helloimahumanbeing: Not always, but if you ping them (using {{ping|user}}) they get an alert --DannyS712 (talk) 05:50, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

@Helloimahumanbeing: If they are watching your talk page, they will see it in their watchlist when you edit it, but otherwise there is no "notification" sent DannyS712 (talk) 05:55, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

How do I use {{ping|user}}? Helloimahumanbeing (talk) 06:01, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

@Helloimahumanbeing: - in this reply, I start with {{ping|Helloimahumanbeing}}, which sends you a notification. See more at Wikipedia:Notifications DannyS712 (talk) 06:02, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

@Helloimahumanbeing: It may be worth noting also that {{ping}} is an alias of the {{Reply to}} template. Also, there are other shortcuts, like {{re}} (which I used at the beginning of this reply). You can find more aliases and more templates with related functionality at the {{Reply to}} template description page. Happy editing! --CiaPan (talk) 06:18, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Another option to pinging is Template:Talkback. Just for reference, some editors really don't like to get pinged and are not shy about letting others know about this dislike; they may've even set their preferences to not receive any pings at all. So, try not to overdo it; if someone doesn't respond right away, give it some time. If they still don't respond, then perhaps they don't want to, are thinking about how to respond, or have their preferences turned off. Try not to be the person who stands at the counter who hits the bell over and over and over and over again to try and get someone's attention. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:25, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

How to create the wikipedia page

Hi,

How should I create the page for leading builder in India?

Please help me with this.

Thanks, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Viveksocial (talk • contribs) 07:00, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

@Viveksocial: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Successfully creating a new Wikipedia article is probably the hardest task on Wikipedia; it's even more so if you are associated with the subject you are writing about; I take "Vivek social" to mean that you represent a company called Vivek. If so, it is best that you not attempt to write about your company. This is what we call a conflict of interest. You would also be a paid editor and must comply with that policy per Wikipedia's Terms of Use. You will also need to change your username as usernames cannot be that of a company or position. You may change your username by visiting Special:GlobalRenameRequest or WP:CHUS.

You should not attempt to write about the company because, unlike social media, Wikipedia is not interested in what an article subject(or its representative) wants to say about itself. Wikipedia is only interested in what independent reliable sources state about article subjects that meet Wikipedia's special definition of notability; notable companies are defined at WP:ORG. Wikipedia is not for merely telling about a company; that should be done on social media or the company website. 331dot (talk) 07:55, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Help with good article review

Hello, I'm almost done with ==GA Review==

This review is transcluded from Talk:Rolling Acres Mall/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Helloimahumanbeing (talk · contribs) 06:51, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

1. Is it well written?

   A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:

   "Also, the cinema reopened under an independent group calling itself Blind Squirrel Cinema", this could be reworded

    Done

   B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:

2. Is it verifiable with no original research?

   A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:

   B. All in-line citations are from reliable sources, including those for direct quotations, statistics, published opinion, counter-intuitive or controversial statements that are challenged or likely to be challenged, and contentious material relating to living persons—science-based articles should follow the scientific citation guidelines:

   C. It contains no original research:

   D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism:

3. Is it broad in its coverage?

   A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:

   B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style):

4. Is it neutral?

   It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:

5. Is it stable?

   It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:

6. Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?

   A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:

   @Helloimahumanbeing: Just wondering why this one has a question mark next to it. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 14:00, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

   B. Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:

7. Overall:

   Pass or Fail:

   and I'm almost done. However, I'm new to reviewing articles and the one thing that isn't checked is something I don't understand. Where could I request help? Helloimahumanbeing (talk) 07:58, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Hacking DTM pages

WHY YOU HACKING DTM WIKI PAGES? YOU ARE AN IDIOT!— Preceding unsigned comment added by TheriusRooney (talk • contribs) 05:00, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi TheriusRooney. The Wikipedia Teahouse was set up to be a friendly place for people to come and ask questions about Wikipedia; so, (1) there's no need to WP:SHOUT, and (2) there's no need to insult anyone. If you've got a question about a particular article or edit, you'll probably find someone whose more than happy to help figure things out is you can just ask in a WP:CIVIL manner. It would also help if you could provide a link or at least the name of the article you have a question about. From looking at your contibutions history, I'm going to guess that DTM means Deutsche Tourenwagen Masters. I'm also not sure what you mean by "hacking" because there's really no need to "hack" a Wikipedia article because they can pretty much be edited by anyone from anywhere in the world at anytime. Perhaps you mean a disagreement over article content between you and some other editor or editor(s)? -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:28, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

@TheriusRooney: Who are you talking to? As far as I can see in the page history, at least 50 most recent edits in Deutsche Tourenwagen Masters, spannig about 12 days, were made solely by you. So, who is the hacking one...? --CiaPan (talk) 09:36, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Userpage

User:CptViraj - Can anyone help me to remove space at the top of Wikipedia User Template without moving babel and userbox? Thanks! CptViraj (Talk) 10:59, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

@CptViraj: You can use a DIV-container like <div style="position: relative; top: -XXpx">.....</div> around content to move anything within the container up (using negative values) or down (using positive values). Just replace "XX" with the amount of pixels you wish to have it moved. I hope that helps. Regards SoWhy 11:10, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

@SoWhy: Yep Thanks! CptViraj (Talk) 11:33, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

@SoWhy: It's not working, can you please do it for me? CptViraj (Talk) 11:40, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

@CptViraj: Done--PATH SLOPU 11:47, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Adding a picture to my page

Hi, I would like to add a new picture to my entry David Williams-Ellis but I know there are rules about what i can and can't do. Would I be able to do this if i own the copyright in the image or does someone else have to do it for me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by DavidWilliamsEllis (talk • contribs) 10:55, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

@DavidWilliamsEllis:Welcome to Teahouse. I think you mean adding (may be uploading) the image in your userpage. First of all, the images are uploaded in our sister wiki Wikimedia commons (though images can upload locally in Wikipedia).You can upload (here) images made by you in Commons if you are the copyright holder. If the images are copyrighted, please follow the licensing policy of commons. This pages may helpful--FAQ, first steps. Thank you.--PATH SLOPU 11:13, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Thank you @Path slopu - does that mean i can then upload an image belonging to me onto my own entry? DavidWilliamsEllis (talk) 11:24, 31 May 2019 (UTC)DavidWilliamsEllis

@DavidWilliamsEllis:You can upload images which is created by you. If that image is created by another (which have copyright) please follow the correct procedures. Also when replaying to other's post, feel free to start the post like this, {{ping|"User name"}}. You can see it in my reply. Best of luck! Thank you.--PATH SLOPU 11:34, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

P.S. It's not your own entry, it is an article about you that anyone can edit. David notMD (talk) 13:09, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

cuyahoga river fire 50th anniversary events

My committee has written a Draft article entitled Robert Walter Jones JD, focusing on newspaper articles related to the Cuyahoga River Fire 50th anniversary which is being celebrated with major events in Cleveland Ohio June 21-23 soon. The draft was submitted beginning of March so we are hoping it will be accepted soon. Any edits that may improve the article greatly appreciated although some experienced editors have already reviewed it and it appears ready. This article makes accessible to the public relevant old newspaper articles from 1970-72 available nowhere else on the internet it seems. Thousands of people will soon be interested in this primary source information and accessing the Wikipedia page. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Neuroctrkenosha (talk • contribs) 19:38, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

Convenience link: Draft:Robert Walter Jones JD.   Maproom (talk) 22:52, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

Comment: you say you want to focus on articles relating to the Cuyahoga River Fire, but your article is purportedly about Robert Walter Jones. This suggests that you are using Jones as a coatrack. The use of coatracks is disapproved by Wikipedia. Maproom (talk) 23:03, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi Neuroctrkenosha. Just going to add that it's not really the purpose of a Wikipedia:Article to makes accessible to the public relevant old newspaper articles from 1970-72 available nowhere else on the internet. It might be OK to cite some of these articles as sources if they qualify per Wikipedia:Reliable sources, but Wikipedia is not really a free web-host for image or data files, etc. Moreover, Wikipedia doesn't even require that sources cited in its article be avaiable online; only that they be reliable and accessible for verification purposes. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:29, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

The above comments are appreciated and duly noted and I emphasize that these issues are understood. The bottom line is a request for any editor, but especially those who may have an interest in the history represented by this article to improve the article with minor edits as needed. The committee involved with this article sincerely believe it is not a coatrack nor simply an archive for old newpaper articles as in fact the articles are archived on another site and the Wikipedia article just references it. However a Wikepedia article creates accessibility to history. No doubt. Neuroctrkenosha (talk) 20:00, 29 May 2019 (UTC)Neuroctrkenosha

Hi again Neuroctrkenosha. You keep making reference to some "committee", but Wikipedia articles aren't really created by committee at least not how you seem to be using the term. Moreover, a Wikipedia article is not intended to be for way to try and right some great wrong or let the world know about some great or noble cause; they're only intended to reflect verifiable content found in reliable sources (preferably secondary and independent) about subjects deemed to be Wikipedia notable. Articles are intended to be written in neutral voice and summarize what reliable sources have stated about their subjects and not everything which is true or even verifiable needs needs to be mentioned.

Articles aren't owned by their creators or their subjects as explained in Wikipedia:Ownership of content; so, even if your committee does manage to create an article, it will have no final or special editorial control over it. Content added to a Wikipedia article can be revised or removed by anyone anywhere in the world at anytime without prior discussion or approval as long as they do so in accordance of with relevant Wikipedia policies and guidelines, and any disagreements over article content are going to be expected to be resolved through Wikipedia:Dispute resolution, etc. These are some of the reasons why a Wikipedia article might not be the best way to accomplish what you and your community seem to be trying to accomplish; you might be better off creating your own wikia or website, etc. where you and your community have more control over content if your goal is to present this information in a certain way as some kind of historical record so as to make accessible to others. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:58, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

The above points are understood. The draft of this Wikipedia article has been reviewed and edited by many people (the committee) prior to submission. There are many people who feel that this article is highly suitable for Wikipedia. It is based entirely on historical facts and there is no agenda other than the Wikipedia agenda, bringing knowledge to the world. Of course we have disseminated much of this material now in many other ways and many of the committee will be participating in person in the history festival as a part of the Cuyahahoga 50 Neuroctrkenosha (talk) 13:51, 31 May 2019 (UTC)Neuroctrkenosha

Why were contributions stricken?

I just noticed my and some others' comments here were struck through in the edit history. Why does that happen? TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 22:22, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

It can happen when you edit a page which contains something that needed to be later removed and deleted or suppressed. It doesn't usually mean that you added the text, just that the revision of the page already contained it. Due to the nature of deleting things, no one's probably going to go into details about what was removed, but the policies should give you some ideas. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 22:30, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

I think in this case it was an email address. Eman235/talk 23:28, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

Strange - I see my responses to the queries are still there, but the strike history makes it incorrectly appear they were deleted. I guess no biggie. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 00:15, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

@Timtempleton: Yes, your questions or replies still remain in the current version of the page. But those old revisions in which you added them have been suppressed. Let's see an example (in chronological order, opposite to what Wikipedia page history shows):

• in the revision 1000 Sophie asks a question;
• in the revision 1001 Alice writes where Bob lives;
• in the revision 1002 John replies to Sophie's question;
• in the revision 1003 Taylor comments on John's answer;
• in the revision 1004 an admin deletes what Alice wrote to protect Bob's privacy.

Then the admin suppresses revisions with sensitive data, i.e. 1001 through 1003.

• revision 1000 Sophie asks a question;
• revision 1001 Alice writes where Bob lives;
• revision 1002 John replies to Sophie's question;
• revision 1003 Taylor comments on John's answer;
• revision 1004 an admin deletes what Alice wrote to protect Bob's privacy.

Now you can see the revision 1004 (or later) with Sophie's question, John's reply and Taylor's comment, but you can't see any revision with Bob's private address. Among those, you can't see the revisions in which John and Taylor added their contributions, because if you could, you would see Bob's data which needed protection.

Best regards, CiaPan (talk) 09:29, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

@CiaPan: Thanks! TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 13:53, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Grammy Award Winning Graphic Designer

Hi, I'm working on updating/editing/etc American graphic designers and was wondering if someone who otherwise isn't notable, but won a Grammy award for cover art would be seen as notable under WP:CREATIVE. Specifically, Sally Carns. I don't have much experience editing anyone related to music, so not sure if it qualifies. Thanks in advance 9H48F (talk) 13:56, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

@9H48F:The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor, or has been nominated for such an award several times come under WP:ANYBIO and they passes notability. Here Grammy Award is a well-known award. Regards.--PATH SLOPU 15:01, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Question on articles primarily maintained by students?

Hello! I'm quite new to editing, and while looking for pages to do some work on I found a bunch of articles that seem to be edited almost exclusively by users attached to college courses. I know that student editors aren't supposed to be treated differently than any other editor, but I'm a little hesitant to do any significant work on pages that seem to have been created and subsequently maintained by a bunch of different classes at a bunch of different universities. They're not necessarily bad articles, and overall they've gotten better over time, but they do seem to sort of perpetually get edited in a not-entirely-encyclopedic way, with little attention from regular editors. The specific articles I looked at are Sexuality in music videos, Misogyny in rap music, and Hip-hop feminism. Is the focus on these articles for classes intentional or accidental? It seems like some of it could be merged with other articles, or pared down, but I don't want to suggest big changes for an article that an incoming class will expect to be working on (or, honestly, an article that isn't very good but will just be re-created over and over). I feel quite conflicted, and a little confused, about this, so specific suggestions would be really helpful. Zojomars (talk) 11:49, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi Zojomars. I completely understand where you're coming from since I occasionally come across some articles as well. You might find some help about this kind of thing at Wikipedia:Education noticeboard. Not all students editing as part of a class project are participating in a Wiki Ed sponsored course, but many are and the Wiki Ed advisors are usually good people to ask about this kind of thing. -- Marchjuly (talk) 12:14, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Okay, thank you Marchjuly, I will do that! Zojomars (talk) 15:35, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

relevance-check?

Hi, dear people, in the german wikipedia, we have a place where we can ask whether a person seems to be relevant enough to write an article on him - do you have some place like this also? I have a painter in mind, but i'm not quite sure whether he is relevant enough. Kind regards, --Gyanda (talk) 14:21, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi Gyanda. I'm not sure whether English Wikipedia has a particular page for that kind of thing, but you might get some feedback from WikiProjects like Wikipedia:WikiProject Germany, Wikipedia:WikiProject Visual arts, or Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/Arts and entertainment. -- Marchjuly (talk) 14:37, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

@Gyanda:Also, please check the notability guidelines such as WP:ARTIST, WP:BIO to find that whether a person (here painter) seems to be relevant enough to write an article on him. Regards.--PATH SLOPU 14:46, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for your interesting answers. I did know already WP:ARTIST, WP:BIO - i didn't remember the Visual arts project and the other ones named. Will check there. Thank you very much! --Gyanda (talk) 15:48, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

How to source a book with multiple authors?

I am barely experiencing with editing and cited a book on Eduardo A. Roca where not only Andrès Cisneros was the author but a couple of more people. How to add them? Hope to get my message across. Kind regards & Best wishes. --LLcentury (talk) 15:09, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello LLcentury! I would use the ref toolbar, see Help:Referencing_for_beginners#Using_refToolbar. If you choose "cite book", there's a big green + that lets you add as many authors you want. If you have an isbn or a gbook url, try using that and click the little magnifying glass, that often works well. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:31, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

You can also do that manually if you like. Template {{Cite book}} has provision for listing multiple authors. (I am not sure about the limit). You can achieve that by using |first1= and |last1= for the first and surname of the authors respectively. For the first author you can use only |first= and |last= without the number but for any subsequent name you have to add that as well as incrementing it to have |first2=, |first3= |first4= and so on. – Ammarpad (talk) 15:44, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Thank you so much both! --LLcentury (talk) 15:53, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

How to know?

Thanks for inviting me here at the tea house! Well, may I know on how to know the size of a picture and how much longer does a draft be approved or published? Once again, thank you for inviting me here. (signed already the invitation) — Preceding unsigned comment added by MysteryMrHandsome (talk • contribs) 9:46 pm, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

@MysteryMrHandsome:Hi greetings, you can find the size of an image from the wiki markup of image like 100px, 200px, etc. For example [[File:Wikipedia-v2-logo.svg|thumb|150px]].

Also if the draft is in article for creation reviewing, it will take time to reviewed by experienced users. The draft will accept or declined after completing reviewing process. Thank you.--PATH SLOPU 16:54, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Well, thank you so much Sir! Now I am waiting for the approval of my draft. MysteryHandsome 17:03, 31 May 2019 (UTC)MysteryHandsomeMysteryHandsome 17:03, 31 May 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by MysteryMrHandsome (talk • contribs)

@MysteryMrHandsome:You're welcome. No need of addressing any user with salutations such as Sir/Madam. We all are equal in Wikipedia. Best of luck!.--PATH SLOPU 17:07, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

"The page has been restored."

I added something to a talk page, but instead of seeing "Your edit was saved", I saw "The page has been restored". Can someone explain why this appeared rather than the usual message? Thank you. –Roy McCoy (talk) 13:26, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

@Roy McCoy:Please mention the page that you had seen that. Regards.--PATH SLOPU 13:56, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

@Path slopu:Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style. Thanks. –Roy McCoy (talk) 14:06, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

@Roy McCoy: How and when did you start the edit? You got MediaWiki:Postedit-confirmation-restored which should be shown after a user restores a page to a previous revision. Maybe it's also shown if you edit an old version and make changes before saving. Your diff shows removal of another section added three hours earlier. A diff to an older version before that seems more likely to be the changes you made in the edit window. But your edit summary hints that you made a section edit which should only be possible on the current version at the time, unless you manually wrote /* Matching commas on attributive nouns in titles */ at the start of the edit summary. Did you start the edit many hours earlier? Did you get an edit conflict while saving? PrimeHunter (talk) 14:25, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, PrimeHunter. There was some confusion with the editing on this, and I did manually write (or rather, pasted) the section title. I've been doing this because of problems with editing sections, when the usual edit conflict dialog doesn't appear (in fact I've never seen it myself, though others do) and I've inadvertently reverted someone else's edit. This has happened only once or twice; but it's nonetheless something I've wanted to avoid, and editing the entire page rather than the section, and then pasting the section title into the edit summary, has seemed a good way to do this. If writing or pasting the section title into the edit summary can cause other problems, however, I won't do this anymore. I'm not sure how I'll handle editing text within a section, though. Shall I edit the section and then not be able to check for changes in the whole page, edit the whole page and then not have an indication about the section in the edit summary, or what? Thanks! (Like right now, for instance. I'm editing the section, so I don't know whether a change has been made elsewhere in the page or not. So I have to submit to the usual inconvenience: assume that there likely has been a change, copy my text, cancel, hit Edit again. Only then I make take a few minutes rejiggering the message and have to repeat this again. You'll understand that this is or at least seems unfortunately inconvenient.) –Roy McCoy (talk) 16:13, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

@Roy McCoy: It's fine to write a manual edit summary hinting a section edit if you only edit that section. But the diff indicates you either started the edit seven hours earlier or edited an old version. The latter happens if you click edit on an old diff or version like [1]. If you do then there should be a pink warning box saying "You are editing an old revision of this page. If you publish it, any changes made since then will be removed. You may wish to edit the current revision instead." Help:Edit conflict#Prevention means there will rarely be problems if you make a section edit. Apart from software errors, you will never change edits to other sections. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:35, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

someone removed an addition how do if find out why

Thank you for looking and responding to this. This morning I was looking up Past Life Regression and under "Modern Era" there was no mention of Brian Weiss, MD who is truly single handily responsible for a resurgence in the area of past life regression and is, without a doubt and provable, a best selling author of "Many Lives, Many Masters" and is an MD who was Head of Psychiatry, Mount Sinai Medical Center, Miami. Dr. Weiss, MD is listed in Wikipedia himself, as an expert in the field of Past Life Regression.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Past_life_regression

Below is what I saw when I looked at "view history"

curprev 14:53, 31 May 2019‎ Nblund talk contribs‎ 19,249 bytes -1,293‎ Undid revision 899660360 by DonReed (talk) unsourced and fringe-y undothank Tag: Undo

curprev 13:58, 31 May 2019‎ DonReed talk contribs‎ 20,542 bytes +1,293‎ →‎Modern era: Brian Weiss, MD former Head of Psychiatry, Mount Sinai Medical Center, Miami published the book "Many Lives, Many Masters" which became a best selling authority on the subject of Past Life Regression. undo Tag: Visual edit

I am not Brian Weiss, MD, this is not to promote anything other than giving credit to where credit is due. If you are going to mention "Modern Era" of Past Life Regression and you mention Bridey Murphy but not Brian Weiss, MD you are not looking at the whole story.

Thank you and I look forward to your response.

Don — Preceding unsigned comment added by DonReed (talk • contribs) 19:20, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

DonReed, your addition, of quite a long paragraph, cited no sources. That was a sufficient reason for its removal. Wiikipedia is not based on what its contributors know, but on what has been written in reliable independent sources. Maproom (talk) 19:35, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

How to create a journal

I have been ask to create a journal and don’t see the steps to how to create one — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tiara.jackson (talk • contribs) 2019-05-28T17:10:46 (UTC)

Hi, I'm a student in your class. The information below is very helpful. However, if you are still confused or have any other questions please do not hesitate to contact Helaine (Wiki Ed). Just login and click help, it's a direct messaging system, so the layout is easier to communicate than on Wikipedia @Tiara.jackson: --AmaniSensei (talk) 20:52, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Tiara.jackson. I'm not sure what you mean by "create a journal" but it doesn't suggest to me anything that we do at Wikipedia. You realise that this is one of the pages for asking for help in editing Wikipedia? --ColinFine (talk) 16:21, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

@Tiara.jackson: If you have been asked to create a bespoke 'book' based upon the content of selected Wikipedia pages, I should advise you that the book creation tool has not been functioning for well over a year now. I do know that a new tool is under development, but don't hold your breath! I think it's still possible to create pdfs of individual pages and then to use an external tool to merge them together. You can learn more at Help:Books. Hope this might be what you were after. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 16:40, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

The journal you have been asked to keep will be a sub-page of your user page (like a sandbox). The instructions for your course are at your tutor's website (click here). Your journal will not be a Wikipedia article, but will record your progress in editing Wikipedia as part of your course. Ask your course tutor, or ask again here if you need further guidance. We could create your journal page for you, but it looks better if you create it yourself. Just click on User:Tiara.jackson/Journal and start typing to record what you have done. Dbfirs 18:30, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

References

a new page

why if I automatically want to start a new page, I get a sandbox? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Barbie Tingz (talk • contribs) 20:27, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Barbie Tingz Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. New users initially cannot create articles; you must have at least 10 edits and your account must be at least four days old; you do have more than 10 edits, but you have 3 more days before you can directly create articles. Until then, you may use Articles for Creation to submit a draft for review. 331dot (talk) 20:57, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Also note that successfully creating a new article is a very difficult task, probably the hardest on Wikipedia. You should read Your First Article. 331dot (talk) 20:58, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Template and Articles, need help because I'm a beginner

Hello, I started a Japanese Voice Actor English page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoshiki_Nakajima and it was deleted, somehow it came back again this month. I was wondering why the article deleted, it was still on progress and that Japanese Voice Actor is notable Voice Actor in Japan with leading roles. Now I'm afraid to start another English page for other Japanese Voice Actor.

I also confused how to change the template on the article. There are few articles without template and I want to edit the articles but have no idea how to use the template properly. I tried to make the template but the result are irregular and at the end I cancelled the template. - — Preceding unsigned comment added by Juliet6884 (talk • contribs) 16:07, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

@Juliet6884: Hi welcome to the Teahouse! Looking though Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yoshiki Nakajima and Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2018 July 26 it looks like initially Yoshiki Nakajima did not meet the notability criteria (this one specifically Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Entertainers also known as WP:ENT). However, the reason why its back was because during the few months while the article was deleted he ended qualifying for notability. So, as long as the other Japanese article meets WP:ENT it terms of notability I think you can create that article. Also, I will be more then happy to help you with the template, what exactly are you looking to add to it? You could also look at Template:Infobox person for help with the template. Hope you find this helpful! OkayKenG (talk) 19:41, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

@OkayKenG Thank you for the information. I'm having trouble with the Template:Infobox person. I tried to use the template in a wikipedia page but when I edited the result of the preview became irregular and I canceled the template. How to edited page and input template on the page? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Juliet6884 (talk • contribs) 16:15, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

@Juliet6884:. No problem, I responded over at your talk page User talk:Juliet6884. Thanks for your question. (also if other editors see this, could they please check to make sure the directions look okay?) OkayKenG (talk) 06:48, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Constantly changing (wikimania) banner

I find the constant changing of the wikimania banner extremely annoying.
I would appreciate if it had, at least, a "Close!" button.
I would also apreciate if a close of this banner once, or any other banner, which one is closing once, would prevent it from EVER appearing again, for me, respectively any other registered and logged-in user, who has closed this banner once, respectively for an IP user for the rest of his/her session.
A "Close!" button and a "close once and forever" function should be standard and mandatory for any banner.
Steue (talk) 08:28, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello Steue Welcome to the Teahouse. I feel your pain in this, and in your related post immediately above it. But I'm not feeling it myself, probably because I've got my User Preferences set to "suppress banners" in the 'Gadgets' tab. Have you tried ticking that option? I must admit that whenever I do see a banner, like the recent Wikimania one, there's always been a corner box to suppress it, and I don't see it coming back in that session. I can't offer a suggestion why you're having that problem, except to suggest trying a different browser and then reporting the issue at WP:VPT. (I'm using Safari and iOS) Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 11:00, 1 June 2019 (UTC) Archived.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 20:04, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Hey thank you :)

Wow so much kindness here, the completely opposite of the german wiki :)

here is my question: What you think about this ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales#Dear_Godfather_of_Wikipedia%2C --WikiVerwelkt (talk) 21:42, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

@WikiVerwelkt: I think that discussion is better kept with German speaking editors, whether on the German Wikipedia or elsewhere. This is a forum for helping on the English Wikipedia. Happy editing. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 22:12, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Its impossible to dicsuss on de.wikipedia.org you get blocked immediately and the contribs deleted .. :( Its really really bad there Too bad that english isnt my mother language ... WikiVerwelkt (talk) 22:55, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

To: WikiVerwelkt: As for the kindness: This was my impression too.
Steue (talk) 08:54, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

To: WikiVerwelkt: I left you a message on your talk page. To find it, just click on "talk" between any of your signatures, here around, and the time. In case you have any problem finding it, let me know here, either in English or German.
Steue (talk) 11:41, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Table question

Hi! I was wondering, say I want to create a table that is used in multiple locations.... How do I do that so I can then implement the same table in multiple articles; but only have one copy of the table? (i.e. so that if changes are made to the table, then the changes appear everywhere....) An example is the WP article Relative permittivity which in the very beginning has this in the source: {{Relative permittivity table}}. (An aside question is also, say I want to view the source of this table {{Relative permittivity table}}, how do I do that.......... I was not able to find that actual table!) Thanks, -- Blue.painting (talk) 22:22, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Blue.painting. We have a separate 'namespace' for templates, so the one in double curly brackets that has been transcluded into that article can be found at Template:Relative permittivity table. Using the searchbox, you'll need to type Template: followed by the template name. You can easily create a table of your own and test it in your own sandbox first, before moving it over into the template namespace. (e.g. User:Nick Moyes/sandbox/template). Does that answer your questions? Nick Moyes (talk) 23:39, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi Nick Moyes, thanks for the response, that totally makes sense! Best, -- Blue.painting (talk) 00:15, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

And, Blue.painting the answer to your first question you find in Help:Template .
Steue (talk) 08:44, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi Steue: ok, thanks! -- Blue.painting (talk) 12:39, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

About COI

I've got a message on Instabook of Indian writer to write about him on wikipedia. I've not replied him yet because I don't want to get into advertising & promotional stuff. The question is if I write and Not taking any money and also not asking him about any personal information, only the information I'll get from google I'll write down will that be the case of COI or Paid? Because writer is pretty known as his two shows are Biggest shows according to sources.

Writer is Abhijit Guru (Marathi Television Shows Dialogue Writer) Siddharth 📨 12:49, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

@SidPedian: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. If that person asked you to write about them, it would be a conflict of interest that you would need to disclose. If they are not paying you at all, be it money or any form of compensation, you would not need to comply with WP:PAID. You would need to use Articles for Creation should you choose to write about the person. 331dot (talk) 12:53, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Cool Thanks, I ain't writing about him. Not now nor in the future. Just wanted to know how this works. Thank you Siddharth 📨 12:57, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Probable picture error

On the Unity Mitford page I am almost certain the photograph is that of the film star Greta Garbo rather than Unity Mitford or any of her sisters. I don't have the confidence to correct the page and wonder if anyone could check, perhaps confirm (or otherwise) and make the change if necessary. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bertsboy (talk • contribs) 11:51, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Have you seen any of the pics labelled as another person anywhere else? I'm not seeing much of a likeness to Garbo in any of the photographs. The infobox portrait is one of a series of all the sisters, and clearly labelled as Unity in the original. The second comes from the Sun, and while I'm not sure "fair use" is applicable, it looks like Unity to me. The third is from the Netherland archives, where they have labelled it as Unity Mitford, and they all resemble other images of her if you do a google image search. Curdle (talk) 14:47, 1 June 2019 (UTC) Oops sorry, forgot to ping you @Bertsboy:. Curdle (talk) 14:52, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Where do i go?

What is the best destination on Wikipedia for requesting the unprotection of a page? 2405:204:A49D:DD98:0:0:D43:B8AC (talk) 15:48, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Well, those instructions can be found on WP:RFPP. Just scroll down to the "Reduction in Page Protection" section, but please read the instructions in that section before making any requests. CLCStudent (talk) 15:50, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Help with article creation

Hello, I would like to create an article on the Loudenslager Laser 200 aircraft (currently in my sandbox). Should I go ahead and move it into article space, or submit it somewhere for review first? Thanks, Gorkypickeral (talk) 18:48, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Some information about this plane is already in Leo_Loudenslager article. Is the subject sufficiently notable to warrant a separate article? Ruslik_Zero 19:50, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello Ruslik0, the aircraft was basis for for most modern aerobatic monoplanes. It was also the primary reason behind the move to monoplanes from the biplanes that had previously dominated. I do have sources for it as well. Is this enough to make it notable? Thanks, - Gorkypickeral (talk) 20:51, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

What makes a subject Notable in Wikipedia editing jargon is not how important something is in the Real World, but how well it has been documented by Reliable sources.

If two or more of the sources you cite are published (and therefore potentially consultable by article readers), and are entirely independent of the subject (so neither published by entities connected with it nor based on publicity material from or interviews with them), and discuss it at some length (at least a couple of paragraphs, not passing mentions or inclusions in lists), then the subject passes the notability criteria.

Your draft currently has (only) two cited sources. Both of them look reliable and substantial to me, but finding a third of comparable quality would I think remove all doubt. Something from an actual aviation journal (rather than an aviation modelling journal), would be ideal. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.122.2.132 (talk) 10:23, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the help! I'll see what other sources I can gather. - Gorkypickeral (talk) 17:04, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

What to do when an article is deemed more of an advertisement than an encyclopedia entry...

Hi,

I am assisting an acquaintance - who owns and runs an eponymous jewelry label - with publishing an article about her company on Wikipedia.

I worked on what I thought was a neutral entry with multiple references to media mentions, but the article has been declined after the first round.

My questions are: are certain types of sources not reliable or not deemed 'strong' enough to use as valid reference points? Is there anything that absolutely can not go in a brand's Wikipedia article?

Any help much appreciated - thank you in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nickremsen (talk • contribs) 20:10, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

@Nickremsen: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. I would first note that since you state you are editing on behalf of someone else, you will need to review and comply with the conflict of interest policy. If you are being compensated in any way for this, you also must comply with the paid editing policy.

In looking at your draft, it seems to be more about the person than the jewelry label. Either way, what is needed are independent reliable sources that give significant coverage of the subject, and show how it meets Wikipedia's special definition of notability. The sources you have given are brief mentions and an interview(which is a primary source and does not establish notability). Wikipedia is interested in what third parties state about article subjects in depth. 331dot (talk) 20:17, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Nickremsen. The draft in question is User:Nickremsen/sandbox/Nigora Tabayer. Two of your references are to the Daily Mail which is not accepted as a reliable source on Wikipedia. Please read WP:DAILYMAIL. One reference to a publication called The Jewellery Editor says that it is "sponsored" which essentially means that it is a paid advertisement and is not independent. Sources that consist of interviews with the owner/designer are also not independent and do not establish notability. All of the sources that you have referenced appear to be the result of marketing and promotional activity by the company, and are therefore of poor quality. You have included two external links in the body of the article. They do not belong there. Experienced editors are going to be skeptical of the notability of a company that was established less than three months ago. Please read Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies). Also strange is the assertion that the designer is from "Central Asia", a gigantic region consisting of five or six countries. Perhaps this mysterious vagueness is part of the jewellery company's marketing plan but it looks bizarre to me in an encyclopedia article. As for what absolutely cannot go in any article about a brand, the answer is nothing that uninvolved editors conclude is added for promotional, marketing or advertising purposes. In conclusion, please read Your first article. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 01:00, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

• Is there a list, in one place, of media sources that aren't permitted as references? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nickremsen (talk • contribs)

Once you post to this page, it must remain in order to be archived, in case others have the same questions later. 331dot (talk) 02:04, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

To answer your new questions, I know of no specific list of sources that are not permitted- and it would likely be unworkable to create such a list for this global website. The only source I am aware of that is specifically prohibited is the Daily Mail, as noted above. In general, sources are acceptable if they are independent reliable sources(please review that link) that have a reputation of editorial control and fact checking. As noted above, sources that simply republish press releases, or allow users to pay for posting/publication, are generally not permitted. 331dot (talk) 02:05, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

There is a list of sources whose reliability is often discussed at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources. (Not all of those are proscribed, but it is a helpful list.) Eman235/talk 03:07, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review

Hi,

I'm new at writing articles and have used the AfC submission but as my latest article Gaztransport & Technigaz was not reviewed after a month I used my autoconfirmed status to move it to MainSpace where it was disambiguated by a New Page reviewer, so I assume it is suitable?

Also, the Page Information says that indexing by robots is allowed.

My question is why does it not appear on Google?

Is this because it needs to be marked as reviewed?

Will it only be indexable after 90 days from creation?

Apologies if I've made any procedural errors and thanks in advance for any help.

--Jonoweltman (talk) 15:07, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

New articles are NOINDEXed until either 90 days have elapsed or it has been reviewed through the new page patrol process. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:51, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi Jonoweltman, welcome to the Teahouse. It's a known problem phab:T157747 that "Page information" claims indexing is allowed on new unreviewed articles. The only reliable method to test whether indexing is disallowed on an article is to look for noindex in <meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow"/> in the html source of the rendered page. The view source feature of my browser shows Gaztransport & Technigaz currently has this code. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:50, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Thank you @David Biddulph: and @PrimeHunter:. I can't seem to find my article in the list of new pages waiting for review. Is this because the article creation date is over 30 days? Is there a way I can request a patrol or review using tags? Should I use subst:submit? Again I really appreciate the help!--Jonoweltman (talk) 23:03, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

You'll find the article if you put your username into the filter at Special:NewPagesFeed. There are over 8000 pages awaiting new page patrol, so it's just a question of patience. --David Biddulph (talk) 06:17, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Thank you @David Biddulph: I was concerned that it might not be listed for review as the page was visited by an editor with New Page Reviewer rights and he disambiguated some links but did not review the article which I thought strange. I'll just be patient. --Jonoweltman (talk) 08:05, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: Can we use __INDEX__ magic word to index any new page? I am using it to index my userpage. If you reply here, please ping me by adding {{u|Masumrezarock100}} to your message, and signing it. Masum Reza^📞 17:26, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

@Masum Reza: __INDEX__ has no effect on mainspace articles. See Wikipedia:Controlling search engine indexing#Indexing of articles ("mainspace"). PrimeHunter (talk) 22:03, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Jumping main vertical menu

Obviousley, due to the automatic repettitive change of number of lines in the wikimania banner (every 3 seconds), the main vertical menu (on the left side) is jumping up and down. I find this extremely annoying and distracting. Please DO repair this bug ASAP.
Steue (talk) 08:10, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Answered above below. Nick Moyes (talk) 11:01, 1 June 2019 (UTC) Archived.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 20:04, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

I suppose the easiest way to fix this behaviour would be to give the part (of the banner) with two lines a third line. Steue (talk) 12:34, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

@Steue: Well, I've just viewed the banner in both Chrome and Firefox and I don't experience the changing depth of the banner at all. It cycles round, but retains the same number of lines. Nor can I recreate what you describe by zooming in the page. Out of interest, what are you viewing it on? Nick Moyes (talk) 17:46, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

I am using Firefox (67.) and Windows 8.1. I have tried your tip and changed something in the gadgets. First I had no result, but meanwhile, maybe due to closing and restarting Firefox, I see no banner anymore. And if this remains the case then I will be happy.
Steue (talk) 22:21, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Newly created accounts

Hey, Teahouse folks,

Not a new editor but I have a question and so many editors circle by this page, I hope someone can provide me with a quick link. I've come across a list of newly created accounts which I sometimes scanned to see if there were any username issues. But I can't find it any more. I've looked at Special:SpecialPages where I thought it was located but I can only find a general active users list (which is organized alphabetically, not chronologically). Can any of your wide circle of helpers here recall where new accounts list is located? If so, many thanks!

P.S. I use to hang out here quite a lot years ago when I was a new editor and, frankly, I probably would have quit editing if it wasn't for the patience and help of regulars here. Thanks again to all of the editors who spend a little time answering questions like this. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:04, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Liz: I think you need to go to Special:ListUsers and check "Sort by creation date" and "Sort in descending order" (though the list of oldest accounts is interesting!) Eman235/talk 04:43, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for your answer, Eman235. Much appreciated! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:04, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Should I put an About template before or after a pre-existing Multiple issues template?

There's a Multiple issues template on the page, followed by the content of the page. The page needs an About template too. Should I place it above, or below, the Multiple issues template that already exists? Epic style editor (very cool) (talk) 16:16, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

@Epic style editor (very cool): Generally, the About template goes above the multiple issues DannyS712 (talk) 17:08, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, @DannyS712:. I'll add the template above then. Epic style editor (very cool) (talk) 17:46, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

@Epic style editor (very cool): A good page to reference for things such as this is WP:ORDER; similarly, for article talk pages, WP:TALKORDER is good to look at. -- Marchjuly (talk) 23:26, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Skelton Grange Power Station

This page is now labelled as a stub, because part of the page, including HISTORY is missing. However, the complete page, including HISTORY was available to read, before vanishing. Please advise. (Visual Editor) George Sidebottom 82.23.101.49 (talk) 17:13, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Skelton Grange power station is not marked as a stub, nor has it had any large scale removal of content according to its edit history; are you referring to a different page? 331dot (talk) 17:18, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

331dot is right to say that the article, Skelton Grange power station, has never had a history section, nor has any major content ever been removed. However, it is definitely marked as a stub, although it might now merit being changed to start-class. Nick Moyes (talk) 00:08, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Picture tag issue (country specified)

Hello all! Have a nice day!. I want to know If I did it correct or I messed up. A picture of a man that was taken in the UK in 1912. It's therefore free in the U.S. but the U.S. tag asked me to specify permission from that country (UK), and I ended up adding the following visible tag. Picture Thanks a lot & Best wishes. --LLcentury (talk) 23:20, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Done friends, I sorted out by Live Chat. Feel free to delete this request for help. I am sorry. --LLcentury (talk) 02:03, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Pleased to hear it's sorted, LLcentury. We don't delete completed help requests as the problem or solution is likely to be of interest to other editors. We only remove way off-topic or inappropriate posts here. Cheers, Nick Moyes (talk) 02:14, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

History

Was history. nice? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moiidthg (talk • contribs) 13:32, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Moiidthg Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. It's not clear to me what you are asking. Do you have a question about using Wikipedia? 331dot (talk) 13:52, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Nevermind — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moiidthg (talk • contribs) 04:37, 2 June 2019 (UTC)