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Who has rights to delete entire pages?

Am collaborating with an artist on a major film project and was referring to his page. One day it was live and the following day it had been deleted. The artist did not remove it. Who has rights to delete an entire body of reference? The artist can be found on this dedicated website: jeffreymilburn.com/. Seems rather disrespectful and/or spiteful. TY. — Preceding unsigned comment added by KDallett (talk • contribs) 10:45, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

@KDallett: Administrators have the right to delete pages. Your article probably get deleted because it met one of the criteria for speedy deletion, which you can see here. If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to ask. Mstrojny (talk) 10:58, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

I assume that the page in question was Jeffrey Milburn, which was deleted after a community discussion here. It seems Milburn is not sufficiently notable for a Wikipedia article - something he has in common with a huge, huge majority of all artists and other people in the world. --bonadea contributions talk 11:06, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Report malicious edits

Hi, I found a wiki page on my village and the contents in it were not true as well as inappropriate. I tried editing it, but someone edited it back to the previous version. How/where can I report that editor/edits? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bigi Philip (talk • contribs) 12:29, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

@Bigi Philip: Reporting the editor/edits would not be the right thing to do. If you do not agree with another's edits, please discuss them on the article's talk page. Mstrojny (talk) 12:33, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Infobox

How do you make a infobox?Squid Ink Ultra (talk) 13:05, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

See Help:Infobox, WP:List of infoboxes, and also (if you are talking about making a new infobox template) Help:Designing infoboxes and WP:Infobox. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:12, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

I notice that a similar question was asked, and answered, at User talk:Inkling girl Squid#Infoboxes. Do you have any connection with that user? If so, please read WP:Sockpuppetry. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:17, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Hi want to make a page on Tejaswini Singh on wikipedia but got some problem . Can I get some help ?

(article text removed) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vicbro.arise (talk • contribs) 14:47, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

This isn't the place for an article text. Tejaswini singh is currently nominated for speedy deletion as it had no references and appeared to be merely an attempt at promotion. If the two "references" given here would serve to support any of the text in the article, they need to be included as references in the manner described in WP:referencing for beginners. You need to remove text which isn't supported by reliable sources, and in particular any text which is not written from a neutral point of view. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:13, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Note also that the first link is broken and gives a 404 error, and the second is not in English so you probably need to given an English translation to aid reviewers. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:17, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

George HW Bush Wiki

Hello, I think there is an error on the former president's wiki page. It says he signed NAFTA. Is that true? I think Bill Clinton signed it. Honest question. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:703:380:F38:7060:F3DE:E66F:C506 (talk) 15:30, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

The situation is discussed at NAFTA#Negotiation, ratification, and revision (1988–94). --David Biddulph (talk) 15:33, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

What counts as notable?

Hi there I've been working on a series of articles on suffragettes / suffragists in Scotland and England who appear in the history books but not online, inspired by the Wiki Women in Red Project.

I recently had an article rejected. Some of the feedback was very useful and I have since improved the format and developed the context. However, one of the issues was "why she is important besides being arrested in a protest". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Florence_Hull#Florence_Hull

This makes me wonder whether this suffragette - who was a branch secretary and served time in prison for her part in suffragette protests - is notable enough for Wikipedia. This will have an impact on other articles I'm working on - many of whom were the footsoldiers of the movement rather than the leaders. All of them have census information, newspaper articles from the time written about them, and are named in books about the suffragette movement.

I'd love some guidance on whether this is enough to make them notable before I resubmit.

Many thanks Gillaween (talk) 16:18, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Gillaween, and welcome to the Teahouse. The issue that the reviewer had with the draft was not that it was written, but how it was written. It simply needs some more context, especially in the topmost section (called the "lead"). A lead should serve as a summary of the topic. If someone reads only the lead, they should still have a pretty good overview about the topic. The draft is a bit short, but it still mentions many other things besides her arrest. For instance, you could mention her work as honorary secretary in the lead section. And that she wasn't just arrested and then released, but wrote about her experience; that could be mentioned in the lead too.

But in short, the problem the reviewer mentioned was not with notability, but style of writing. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 16:39, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback Gillaween (talk) 17:20, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Painting of Emperor Willem II yacht in Molde harbour in 1901

We have a painting by Jean Playfair Evans of German Emperor Willem II yacht in Molde harbour painted in the summer of 1901. In the text presenting Molde, there is a mention that the Prince of Wales and the Emperor visited Molde. We think it would be interesting to include the painting in the Molde Wikipedia entry, alongside Nico Wilhelm Jungmann's 1904 painting.

The link for the painting is: http://jeanplayfair.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/NORWAY_ALBUM_28.jpg — Preceding unsigned comment added by JEAN PLAYFAIR (talk • contribs) 16:14, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

The fact that Wilhelm II visited Molde is a very, very, very, very small part of the article about Molde, and in my opinion does not warrant the addition of an image of a painting of his yacht. David notMD (talk) 20:28, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Хочу создать страницу одного талантливого, молодого футболиста, но не знаю как.

Помогите пожалуйста с созданием странички. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Manujoon (talk • contribs) 15:57, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

A rough translation from Russian:

== I want to publish a page of one talented, young football player, but I don't know how ==

Please help (me) with publishing the page.

User:Manujoon

(transl. by CiaPan (talk) 16:57, 22 February 2019 (UTC))

Based on the user's sandbox I suppose it's about https://ru-ru.facebook.com/kimatsho.muminshoev --CiaPan (talk) 17:01, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

I have posted a request for help at Wikipedia talk:Embassy/Archives/2022/June#Help needed for a Russian-speaking newbie. In case that is not the best place, please copy or link it elsewhere. --CiaPan (talk) 17:23, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

Also copied to Wikipedia talk:Local Embassy#Help needed for a Russian-speaking newbie. --CiaPan (talk) 21:17, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Grammar and Spelling check

Is there a grammar and spelling checker for writing and editing content on Wikipedia?, like the Grammarly Ad On for Mozilla. If yes please tell me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prashantmore209 (talk • contribs) 12:57, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Prashantmore209. I don't believe there is. But note that Wikipedia is not a browser like Mozilla Firefox: it is a *(huge) website, which you can acceess via any browser (including Firefox). I'm not familiar with how Grammarly works, but I would have expected that if you edit Wikipedia with a browser to which you have added Grammarly, it would report on the spelling and grammar. --ColinFine (talk) 22:03, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

I am new to Wikipedia. Please guide me

My article on an actor was rejected because of the following reasons 'This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.' Can you simplify the statement? Also, my counter argument on notability was that I have seen pages of actors and actress of less significance and hence choose this topic. I could even name a few actors in Malayalam field example Drishya Raghunath, who has acted in two films and has not achieved any award to be a significant notability. So why is a piece on the young and upcoming actor Adwaith rejected?'. I have also given references to the statements in the article I posted about the actor from various sites and newspaper articles. Do help me out here. Thank you Anjana T S (talk) 18:56, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

Anjana T S, First, many of the references don't link to a specific article. That needs to be fixed. The refs that do work (I.E. the IMDB one) are not reliable sources, nor do they show that the subject is notable. WelpThatWorked (talk) 19:03, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Anjana T S. There are many substandard articles in Wikipedia - often because they were created before we became as careful about notability, or because somebody somehow got an article through without being noticed. If you find an article which does not establish the subject's notability, you are encouraged to do something about it. You could nominate the article for deletion (though the process is a little tricky, and you should really search for sources before doing so; or you could add the template {{notability}} to the top of the article, which will draw people's attention to the fact that you think its notability is questionable. If you do this, please make sure you put something sensible in the edit summary, so that it will not look like vandalism. Please see Other stuff exists. --ColinFine (talk) 22:14, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

When "Why?" appears in an article!

When I come upon an article that has a "Why?" in in....how do I put in an answer I've found? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Danthebeachman (talk • contribs) 22:01, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Danthebeachman, and welcome to the Teahouse. An article that has a "Why?" in it should almost always be changed: one portion of the Manual of style for Wikipedia says "Do not address the reader with the Socratic method by asking and answering questions. Did Bacon write Shakespeare? Then who wrote Bacon?" So it is almost always appropriate for you (or anybody else) to remove the question. Whether or not it is appropriate for you to put an answer to the question depends on two things. 1) Do you have a reliable published source for the information you want to add? You usually can't add information from personal knowledge, unpublished papers, social media, forums or wikis. 2) Is the information actually encyclopaedic and relevant to the subject of the article?

Questions like this are often not clearcut, so if you think the answer to both is yes, feel free to add the information (with a citation to the published source); but others might disagree, and revert your edit: in which case, you can start a discussion on the article's talk page. --ColinFine (talk) 22:35, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

How do you change a Redirect

Ok so I want to add the English language to this wiki page https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Speedrunner_Assembly but when I do it tells me "Could not save due to an error. The save has failed. The link enwiki:Speedrun is already used by Item Q1500337. You may remove it from Q1500337 if it does not belong there or merge the Items if they are about the exact same topic."

And when I looked deeper it says "Speedrun From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 (Redirected from European Speedrunner Assembly)"

So I was wondering how do I get rid of the redirect(I know there is a redirect page but I was unsure if this fell under it), is there a way for me to get here through mobile, and can you add the language on mobile? Thanks for looking at this sorry if this isn't in format I'm new to this asking page --Zebrazach20062 (talk) 23:39, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

You are actually talking about d:Q19605481 on WikiData. I found it by going to the svwiki page linked by you, and clicking on Wikidataobjekt on the left sidebar. There is in fact only it + sv on d:Q19605481, and maybe you try to add Speedrunner.
That's a disambiguation page, for d:Q19605481 you need an exactly matching page (same topic European Speedrunner Assembly ), everything else belongs to other Wikidata items (= other weird Q-number).
If you are sure that d:Q19605481 and d:Q1500337 (for Speedrun) are the same thing you can ask for a merge on the d:Wikidata:Project chat, use {{Q|Q19605481}} and {{Q|Q1500337}} when talking about it on Wikidata. –84.46.53.3 (talk) 01:01, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

They aren't the same thing though and also what do you mean by "try to add Speedrunner"?

All I did was put En into the gray box then put European Speedrunner Assembly next to it, then clicked accept and it errored me

I would attempt to do it again but it's not the same on mobile as it is on computer when I try to edit it.

Sorry if I'm confusing at all

Also can you ping me when you talk, so I can know that someone has responded to this :P Zebrazach20062 (talk) 17:42, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

@Zebrazach20062: Check out Help:Interlanguage_links#Adding_a_new_link, the last statement in this section could be what you are looking for, the complete help page explains how it works.
As long as svwiki has nothing in the direction of w:en:Speedrun and enwiki has nothing in the direction of w:sv:European Speedrunner Assembly you're stuck. –84.46.53.3 (talk) 22:50, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Ok thank you for helping me I was on that article and I must have skipped over that section by accident, if I decide to try that again I will use that information :) Zebrazach20062 (talk) 23:03, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Looking for academic metrics

Can anybody suggest a reliable way to get a count of how many papers an academic has published? And ideally how many citations of those papers? I'm looking for something I can put in their article along the lines of: "X has published Y academic papers, which have been cited Z times." If I could have all my wishes it would be great to have something like the h-index as well because it gives an indication of how influential they are in their field. Or is there a risk that some of this may count as original research? --Gronk Oz (talk) 01:11, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

For scholar.google.com results need human review (mixing up unrelated authors in unrelated fields with the same name, etc.), and it's never complete. I don't know CiteSeerX apart from the name. No, you won't get what you want in a form suited for enwiki, but you can get fresh ideas for a bibliography section on a WP:BLP.
Apart from WP:OR it's also against WP:STATS and, broadly construed, WP:NUMFRIENDS, there's an US-centric bias in those metrics, it will constitute racism and violate the WikiMedia TOS (terms of use) no matter what you do, so clearly no, unless it's a very simple field with exact numbers like "RFCs published". –84.46.53.3 (talk) 01:32, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

@84.46.53.3: Thanks for your reply, though I would to clarify if I may. It sounds like you're arguing against the relevance of citations, but WP: ACADEMIC says that "The most typical way of satisfying Criterion 1 (for notability) is to show that the academic has been an author of highly cited academic work." My question is about where are the best sources for that information. Gronk Oz (talk) 07:20, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

@Gronk Oz: Yes, sorry if that was unclear, relevant publications you put in a bibliography section of a BLP are good. If you find a reliable, relevant, independent (=WP:42) source saying that somebody has a major impact it would be even better. What you can't do is say so on your own based on obscure metrics, that would be OR / STATS / SYNTH / ….
Unless it's something established in other articles, e.g., allegedly professional music or film ratings (stars) are supported in infoboxes for albums / films, alexa page rank is still accepted for web sites, and followers for YouTubers are in the process of being removed (from the infobox) as not good enough. –84.46.53.3 (talk) 23:23, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Why isn't my article up?

Hey guys this is what I have put up. Please help me with this. Did I put it in the right place? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ManDan2019/sandbox?action=edit

Can someone help me out? Why hasn't this been up yet and how can I make it go up?

Thanks. ManDan — Preceding unsigned comment added by ManDan2019 (talk • contribs) 05:46, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Hi ManDan2019. Drafts are not automatically upgraded to article status. If you feel the draft you're working is ready, then you can (1) WP:MOVE it yourself or (2) submit it for review. I highly recommend that you submit your draft to Wikipedia:Articles for creation for review; this will give an experienced reviewer the chance to assess the draft and make suggestions on things that might need improving. Articles submitted for review via AfC seem to have a better chance of avoiding being deleted since AfC reviewers pretty much never accept drafts which don't at least meet the basic requirements for a stand-alone article. You might also want to take a look at Wikipedia:Your first article for suggestions on how to write a proper Wikipedia article. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:14, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

GA/DYK count

Hey there, I was wondering if there was a way to check a user's GA and DYK count. So, could you kindly let me know if there is any? Thank you! Adityavagarwal (talk) 07:55, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Adityavagarwal. That's a great question, and one I tried to answer about 24 hours ago for you - but I was using a smartphone and right at the end managed to lose all my edits! Anyway, I gave up, but am now on a desktop, so welcome to the Teahouse. The answer is necessarily in two parts , as they need to be considered differently:

DYK This is a fairly easy one to answer as anyone submitting a DYK nomination has to create a DYK nomination template. Thus, you need to use this page creation analysis tool to list all the pages they have created in the Template namespace, and look for and count those with "Template:Did you know nomination" in the title. This is my list of 11 DYK nominations out of 13 new templates created in total, and this is your list of 22 nominations. (Great work there!) I must highlight that nominating an article for DYK isn't the same as it actually getting it accepted at DYK. (My count includes one currently active DYK nomination, so would want to count that one, or not, I wonder? So, to be really accurate, you would have to manually check each article to check it got through OK. I see you have 24 DYK's listed on your userpage, not 22. My guess is that you might have co-nominated two other articles, but that another user actually created the nomination template page? (I'd be interested to know.)
GA count. This subject to interpretation as to what actually constitutes a "GA count". This could mean:

a page that you created that has subsequently become a Good Article, irrespective of whether it was your own input that took it there.
a page someone else created, which you subsequently worked on considerably, and which you nominated and took through to Good Article review
a page someone else created, which you subsequently worked on considerably, but which another editor took through to Good Article review
a page some else created, for which you acted as the GA reviewer

Because it is such a movable feast, I doubt there is a way to analyse editor data to produce a simple breakdown as for DYK. The only workaround I could suggest is to list all the users contributions on one page and do a word search for the string "/GA1". But this would yield multiple results for multiple page edits. For example, this is a list of every one of your 7,000+ edits, with 515 edits (spread over two pages of results) made to talk pages with /GA1 in them, such as Talk:Frank Dux/GA1.

But if all you wanted to know was how many articles other people created that you had done a GA review of yourself, then that's much easier: Just go and analyse how many Talk pages you have created in the Talk namespace, and then search for "/GA1". In your case, it's 26. See here. Does any of this give you the answers you sought? If not, maybe this question is one best asked at Wikipedia talk:Good article nominations? Hope this helps a bit, and sorry for the long wait for an answer. Please let me know if you find a better one!Nick Moyes (talk) 03:22, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Hey Nick Moyes, thank you very, very much for your detailed and invaluable response, and for taking the time and effort to re-write your answer! For the DYK count, I have 22 in addition to two hooks those had two articles each. So, there are 20 articles with a separate DYK hook for each and 4 articles with 2 hooks only (Bar-tailed cuckoo-dove and Mackinlay's cuckoo-dove; Barred cuckoo-dove and Little cuckoo-dove). So, it might be that as only 2 templates for the 4 DYK articles were created, it shows two fewer DYKs. Also, the Philippine cuckoo-dove and ruddy cuckoo-dove had a solitary hook, although due to some bot error at the time, the credit was only given for the Philippine cuckoo-dove and not for the ruddy cuckoo-dove (again, only 1 template created for two DYK articles). So, that makes it 25. For the GA count, I was asking for the number of articles a user had promoted to a GA status. The technique that you have mentioned to check for "/GA1" in the edit summary is wonderful. What I could do is just check for those edits opposed to checking all the edits of a user. Also, thanks for the bonus answer of checking a person's GA review count. For me, yes, 26 is accurate!

Adityavagarwal (talk) 03:55, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

You're very welcome, Adityavagarwal. That explanation of DYK count makes sense. Keep up the great work you're doing. Nick Moyes (talk) 08:46, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Nick Moyes You too, keep doing the amazing work you have been doing!

Adityavagarwal (talk) 08:54, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

How to Page title?

I am not able to figure out, how to give Main title to my submission ? can anyone help me with that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MuktaOjha (talk • contribs) 08:07, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

You have submitted your sandbox draft for review, and (as it says in the brown box on the page) "Review waiting, please be patient. This may take 8 weeks or more, since drafts are reviewed in no specific order. There are 2156 pending submissions waiting for review." While you are waiting, there are a number of points which you can address to improve the draft. You need to remove the misplaced external links. You can consolidate where the same reference is used more than once. You ought to add a section heading for the references, and a {{reflist}} template. You can address the CS1 error reported for invalid access date; in the error message there is a help link to assist you. --David Biddulph (talk) 09:30, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

How to create a new page?

Hello everyone, can anyone guide me on how to make a new page on Wikipedia? The format, font and all other mandatory details section that we commonly see in all the pages.

Thanks and Regards, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ilhaamze (talk • contribs) 06:18, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Hi Ilhaamze. There are quite a few of different types of Wikipedia pages, but if you're interested in writing an WP:ARTICLE, then you can find some tips on doing that at Wikipedia:Your first article. You probably should take a look at Wikipedia:Notability and Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not as well since a Wikipedia article should only be written about certain subjects. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:06, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Ilhaamze Hello and welcome. I noticed that you used "we" in your post. If "we" is the group or organization that you want to write about, you will need to read about conflict of interest. 331dot (talk) 08:19, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

@331dot: I guess you mean Conflict of interest? Aditionally, if "we" referes to you company, WP:PAID. Victor Schmidt (talk) 09:57, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Victor Schmidt Indeed. Thanks for pointing that out, I have fixed my typo. 331dot (talk) 10:13, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

How do I enter date or information into Wikipad? Carl Walter -

How do I use or enter data or information into Wikipad? Carl Walter - — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.80.40.114 (talk) 04:19, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

The Teahouse is for questions about editing Wikipedia. Wikipad is nothing to do with Wikipedia. --David Biddulph (talk) 10:15, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

How to Write a Article/Bio about a Celebrity?

How to Write a Article/Bio about a Celebrity? I want to publish some content about a celebrity. How to write on this topic? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kamalaujla (talk • contribs) 09:46, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Kamalaujla. You write an article about a celebrity the same way that you write an article about any other subject: you start by finding the independent reliably-published sources without which it is impossible to write an acceptable article, and then you write the article in a neutral way, summarising what those sources say. If the content you want to publish has not already been published somewhere reliable, then you may not put it in a Wikipedia article: that would be what we call original research, which is forbidden.

My personal view is that anybody who tries to write a new article before spending a few weeks improving existing articles and learning how Wikipedia works is choosing a difficult and frustrating course for themselves.

For more information, please see your first article. --ColinFine (talk) 10:47, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Question about my first article

Hello there

I wrote my very first Wikipedia article last Friday (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:AnnSimoens) and am wondering how I can see if I correctly submitted it for approval? I think I did but I'm not sure. I realise it could take a while before my article really gets posted online, but am just curious to know if I could at least check the submission.

Thanks for your help. Regards Ann — Preceding unsigned comment added by AnnSimoens (talk • contribs) 10:17, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

No you haven't submitted it for approval, and that is the wrong place. Your user talk page is for other users to communicate with you. You started the draft in your sandbox, which is an acceptable place so that's where you need to put your latest draft. When you believe that it is fit for submission for review, add {{subst:submit}} to the top of the draft. Before you submit it for review, you need to remove the "references" to Wikipedia, and read WP:CIRCULAR. You can, of course, include wikilinks where relevant. --David Biddulph (talk) 10:31, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Dear David, thank you so much for your valuable input. I improved my article first and then posted it via the Sandbox. Hope it'll get approved shortly. Bye, AnnAnnSimoens (talk) 10:54, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

how to link text in infobox to wikiedia content?

Is it not possible in visual editing? thanks

Barnesbw91 (talk) 07:17, 25 February 2019 (UTC)Bryan Barnes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Barnesbw91

Hi Barnesbw91, welcome to the Teahouse. Infobox text can be generated in different ways. I guess you refer to text written as parameter values in the page using the infobox. You can link text to a Wikipedia article by placing it in [[...]], e.g. [[Guitar]] to produce Guitar. See more at Help:Link#Wikilinks (internal links). PrimeHunter (talk) 11:23, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Spell check and where to start

To begin reviewing articles for typos, etc. do I just pick randomly or are there suggestions/recommendations of articles that need to be reviewed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaymeemcdonald (talk • contribs) 14:54, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Jaymeemcdonald, There are various categories for pages "needing attention to grammar or spelling". You can find a general list, or go to your favorite wikiproject to get more specific ones. WelpThatWorked (talk) 15:15, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Jaymeemcdonald Check out WP:TYPO Schazjmd (talk) 15:17, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Verifying sources

I think this is much of a trivial question and I feeling right to link it here: WT:FAC#Fact checking. I would appreciate comments and I believe I am not the only one unsure about this. THE NEW ImmortalWizard(chat) 01:06, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Are you asking how content and citations are checked for Featured Article candidates? Perhaps Wikipedia:Guidance on source reviewing at FAC will help. David notMD (talk) 02:25, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Thanks David notMD, I will surely have a read. THE NEW ImmortalWizard(chat) 15:27, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Query

Swiggy, a food delivery application in India, only has a everybodywiki page, is it notable enough to be added to a wikipedia page? Anjana T S (talk) 15:44, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Anjana T S, and welcome to the Teahouse. If you think Wikipedia should have an article about Swiggy (which will not be Swiggy's article), then it is up to you to demonstrate that it is notable: please look at WP:NCORP, and see if you think it meets the criteria. --ColinFine (talk) 15:59, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Would like to start a page for a TV Show

Hello, I would like to start a page for a TV show - The Dr. Joy Show Your Prescription For Total Wellness. Would you be able to provide steps to assist me?

Thank you in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thedrjoyshow (talk • contribs) 20:01, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

First off, don't register an account that implies shared use. Ian.thomson (talk) 20:05, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Then, Wikipedia:Your first article. Ian.thomson is refering to one of WP:s many policies found at WP:ISU. In short, something like Kim at Thedrjoyshow or Thedrjoyshowfan or Thedrjoyshowprperson is ok. For those interested, imdb: [1] Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:04, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Prerequisites

Hello. I am currently applying to be a pending changes reviewer. When I looked on the page to apply it said that an appropriate edit count was required, such that a track record may be established. What is generally regarded as an "appropriate edit count" and approximately how many edits would that be? Thanks!!Mgasparin (talk) 05:10, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Hi Mgasparin. I'm not sure if there's a specific threshold number which you need to meet, and maybe the overall quality of one's edits is also something which is considered. I will say that I don't think this edit was very wise because that information was added by a bot which appears to have bet set up to specifically add such information to Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Pending changes reviewer; moreover, I'm pretty sure that reverting the bot's edit (for apparently no real reason at all) is not going to be seen as a positive by any of the administrators reviewing the PCR requests. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:53, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

@Mgasparin: Welcome to the Teahouse. We really appreciate your enthusiasm and interest in Wikipedia, so please don't let what I'm about to say put you off in any way. But I should point out that it takes time to gain experience on how Wikipedia operates, and I don't think you've had anything like enough time to fully grasp all the basics yet. A quick glance shows that you've only made 90 edits to mainspace articles since you joined us at the end of December. This simply isn't enough for you to have gained sufficient experience to be given that responsibility of approving pending changes, especially as you have't demonstrated any need for it whatsoever through any past history of reverting normal day-to-day vandalism at Special:RecentChanges. I would suggest you gain experience there of determining what is and is not vandalism, improving articles as you encounter them, and engaging with other editors. Pending changes will always be there for you later on. I had wondered whether you had had past experience here under another account name or as an IP editor, as some of your edits seem quite advanced? But then I see from your talk page that you have already been approached by others expressing concern about your limited understanding in proposing GA articles, or taking on the role of reviewer for other Good Article nominations without fully understanding what's involved. Now, there's absolutely nothing to be ashamed about in not having enough experience -every single one of us has been there. What we do seek in editors is sufficient understanding of our ways of working, policies and our guidelines, plus a self-awareness in their own abilities and limitations to know when is and is not the right time to seek to undertake complex tasks here. Right now, I don't think it is your time. Perhaps, when you've made over 500 mainspace edits and a proven track record of appropriate edits undoing anti-vandalism, you might then be in a different position to show that you need that right. Stick with it - we need keen people like you to learn the ropes and to take on new roles in the future. You'll get there. Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 16:52, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Hoax case of feral child Ramu ref our wiki page "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feral_child"

Dear Sir/Madam, Our wiki page on subject line declare that as quoted"Ramu, Lucknow, India, (1954) – A girl taken by a wolf as a baby, and raised in the jungle until the age of seven.[60] Aroles made inquiries on the scene and classifies this as another hoax." I donot agree with this Hoax case as my mother witnessed the case while Ramu was admitted to luckhnow hospital in year 1954/1955.The child as my mother narrate that Ramu body was full of hair and it was male then female. The boy was given physiotherapy to reorient its deformed body particularly its hand and legs. She says at that time local news paper was full of his news and Pioneer news paper of Lucknow also published news.The Ramu was seen by my mother and her uncle daughter. Both these girl could see Ramu as on of brother of her uncle daughter was a just pass out doctor from the college cum hospital and also because my mother's father was govt. officer. My interest is that we if has a opportunity to correct it should do it. Atleast we till collect more info should put it the Ramu case into non confirmed Hoax case.

With Regards Anurag Shukla civil engineer — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anurag Shukla civil engineer (talk • contribs) 18:04, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

This would be better on the talk page of the article concerned. Britmax (talk) 18:13, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Article

Hi, I am sorry if this is a noob question but I would like to take a stab at making my first article. I study the music industry a lot so something in that realm would be awesome to create. Can I find something to write about or should a topic be proposed to me? Thank you! Grimothy29 (talk) 19:17, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

Hi and welcome to Wikipedia. We were all noobs once. Take a look at Wikipedia:Most-wanted_articles the music section of Wikipedia:Requested_articles. Suggest looking at Wikipedia:Your_first_article to ensure it goes through smoothly. Also I'd recommend editing a few articles to get a taste for how things work, before jumping in and creating a new one. --Cornellier (talk) 21:07, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

My advice is take a look WP:GNG and try to think of something (without article) that would pass that without problem, the easier the better. Or find some articles on stuff you like and improve them. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 22:35, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

There are lots of Category:Musician stubs (and other stub categories about music), you could expand an existing stub for somebody you know. You could also look for bands you like, and (example) import w:de:X-Rx, if Industrial music is your thing. Or find an existing draft about music and help to get it in shape for a proper article. Or find an existing redirect not really covered on the target page, and convert it to a proper article (that's actually rather advanced, so maybe try that later :-) –84.46.53.3 (talk) 23:08, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

@Gråbergs Gråa Sång and Cornellier: thank you! I will look into the Most Wanted Articles and see if I can think of anything to write about. Will keep chipping away at edits in the meantime. Grimothy29 (talk) 19:08, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Davy Jones (folklore) situation

WP:DFTT

I find it offending that you include the term "duppy" in the Davy Jones (folklore) page and I do not want that on the page anymore.

Relay this message accordingly and delete the quote.

This is more offensive than any other word on Wikipedia and it should be added to the banned list.

An African-American would set a book down if he found such a quote used on this page.

This is a very serious request and there is an explanation to the term after the quote, while both the quote and explanation are not important aspects of the story as the concept needs to be reworded and the term left out.

^{[Personal info removed -- Ian.thomson (talk)]} Respond with update, Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.182.149.174 (talk) 18:04, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Do not post your phone number or email on here. It's about as smart as writing your phone number on a men's restroom wall with "for a good time, call..."

There is not currently a page titled Davy Jones (folklore). I assume you mean Davy Jones' Locker.

We have an article on the term Duppy, which is not historically a slur. Also, Wikipedia is not censored. I can find no sources saying that the word is offensive at any rate.

Frankly, that you think that that is the most offensive word to African-Americans (and not one starting with an N) raises questions about you. Ian.thomson (talk) 18:16, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

To Ian:

hold on, you are not taking this request seriously, and you are getting off on me in your final sentence.

that is exactly what I said.

if you read it again,the very explanation of the term is offensive, and I want it removed. keep the author, keep the book, remove the term and its explanation.

i would like someone else's opinion who does not get off on me.

i do not care if you are uncensored.

I'm telling you to remove it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.50.144.178 (talk) 01:29, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

He’s gone to Davy Jones’s locker, i.e. he is dead. Jones is a corruption of Jonah, the prophet, who was thrown into the sea. Locker, in seaman’s phrase, means any receptacle for private stores; and duppy is a ghost or spirit among the West Indian negroes. So the whole phrase is, "He is gone to the place of safe keeping, where duppy Jonah was sent to."

— E. Cobham Brewer[4]

change it to West Indians — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.50.144.178 (talk) 01:40, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

It's a quoted historical text. I don't care if you're telling us to remove it, Wikipedia is not censored.

Also, your original claim was that it was the word "duppy" that was offensive, not the explanation. You're moving the goalposts. Ian.thomson (talk) 02:06, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

I am sorry, but we are not going to remove the term on your say so. You are not in a position to make any such demands. You need to provide a link to a reliable source that verifies that the term is offensive. Our lengthy article Duppy does not call it offensive as a word and it is used extensively in song and literature. "Duppy Conqueror" by Bob Marley is just one example among many. One discrepancy is that the 1898 source uses "duffy", which in context seems to be a variant spelling of the same word. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 02:10, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

@Ian.thomson: There might be a real problem, the source says "duffy", the quote uses "duppy". –84.46.53.3 (talk) 02:14, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Fixed the quote. Duffy is derived from Duppy, so it's not talking about something else. Ian.thomson (talk) 02:19, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Change it to West Indians or delete the quote.

Your motives are pompous and it seems your main priority is to treat me like I’m unintelligent.

I will not drop this so do what I said and delete it or relay this message accordingly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.182.253.118 (talk) 19:15, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Are you seriously expecting us to whitewash historical documents?

You started off by saying it was the word "Duppy" that was offensive. Then you changed your mind and said it was the historical use of the word negroes instead. Nevermind the UNCF still exists, demonstrating that the use of that term in a historical context is accepted and no where near as offensive as another N word.

That, combined with your confrontational attitude, just gives the impression that you're here to pick a fight -- not here to help. If you continue providing evidence for that conclusion, you can easily be removed from the site. Ian.thomson (talk) 22:04, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

OP given a timeout by 331dot. Capping this nonsense. John from Idegon (talk) 22:32, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

I accidentally click on "do not remind me button when I was editing my article. Now I do not have the option to do use the "edit" option. In short, I do not know computer code.

I do not have the option of editing in the "edit" mode. I now have to do all my editing with computer code. How do I get the "Edit" mode back?

Thank you.

Bodvar Antonio Gregersen--Bodvar Antonio Gregersen (talk) 22:45, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Hi Bodvar Antonio Gregersen. You can select the editor at "Temporarily disable the visual editor while it is in beta" and "Editing mode" at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing. The latter option is not present if the former is checkmarked. You can also switch during an edit. See Help:VisualEditor/User guide#Switching between the visual and wikitext editors. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:07, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Editing first article

Hi,

First time we are publishing article, we have a long history and alot of interesting patents we would like to share with the community. The article is just the start, but was declines, so would need some help and guidance to make it ready to publish.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gxgroup/sandbox

Thanks

Page deleted and user blocked for promotional editing and user name. TimTempleton ^(talk) ^(cont) 23:10, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Need Help with "Please help to establish notability by citing reliable secondary sources that are independent of the topic and provide significant coverage of it beyond a mere trivial mention"

For the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ran_Wei_(actress), the sources mentioned are from the biggest news companies in China. CCTV is a state run news station so they only run reports on things approved by the PRC. The World Journal Article is the largest Chinese newspaper in the US. Here are clippings from the actual newspaper: https://www.ranwei.net/wp-content/uploads/World-Journal-13-December-2015.png , https://www.ranwei.net/wp-content/uploads/World-Journal-9-February-2019.png . The World Journal doesn't maintain the physcial scans of their newspapers, but these two photos are the actual newspaper and should be valid.

Please help me remove the maintenance template.

Also when typing Ran Wei, this auto redirects to Ran Min. I don't think this should happen because it has a mention of "Ran Wei" in the article. If there is more than one article about Ran Wei than it should go to one of the pages asking you which one it is about like when searching for "The Rock" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rock . There are people and movies and more named the same, but it doesn't auto redirect to the one where the title of the page isn't the same as the term you searched for. That doesn't make much sense to me.

Please help me with the redirect too. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ranscapture (talk • contribs) 21:59, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

@Ranscapture: Unfortunately, I reviewed the sourcing and it appears to me that there's not enough to demonstrate notability. None of the roles she is credited with are notable, and thus the article fails to meet the notability standards suggested at WP:GNGACTOR. I think it's only a matter of time before the article is nominated for deletion via AfD. TimTempleton ^(talk) ^(cont) 23:09, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

@Timtempleton: Hi Tim, Would her page fall under "Conversely, an actor with a brief career might receive wide coverage in multiple reliable sources and merit inclusion through meeting the requirements of the General Notability Guideline even though his short career might fail WP:Entertainer. Failing ENT does not exclude him." This was a huge coverage in China. Since the state run news plays on most stations all at the same time everyday across the whole country, over a billion people would have watched that coverage. Ranscapture (talk) 23:36, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

@Ranscapture: I'd have to defer to a neutral party more familiar with Chinese media and how its used, to make that determination. I can only comment on sourcing I'm able to read and am familiar with. It might be interesting to see if she has an article on the Chinese language Wikipedia, which I can't read. [[2]]. Another lesser consideration is that if she were well known in China, she would surely have already been cast in a joint US/China production by now, since the US film companies are bending over backwards to appeal to Chinese audiences. I'm not seeing any evidence of this. Possibly WP:TOOSOON but the roles to date don't justify an article. TimTempleton ^(talk) ^(cont) 23:47, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Translating

Hi! I am new to contributing on Wikipedia but am fluent in English and French and would like to help translate/copyedit articles; I guess from English to French (?). How do I go about doing so? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Morphëunox (talk • contribs) 19:31, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

@Morphëunox: Welcome to Wikipedia and thanks for wanting to make it better. For translating to English, please read WP:Translate for guidance and also links to requested pages for translation. For translating into French you will want to ask on the French Wikipedia for their guidelines (help desk is at https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Questions_techniques). RudolfRed (talk) 20:30, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Hi Morphëunox. Although each Wikipedia project is part of the same family so to speak, they are unique in that they each have their own separate rules and guidelines. In many cases these may be identical or otherwise quite similar, but it others they might be very different (especially in the case of image use). You can find some general information about translating English Wikipedia articles into other languages at WP:TRANSLATEUS, but ultimately whether the article is accepted is going to depend on the policies and guidelines of the other language Wikipedia. FWIW, since English Wikipedia seems to have the most articles and the most editors editing those articles, its policies and guidelines tend to be more restrictive and rigorously enforced than some other language Wikipedias; so, maybe translating from an English Wikipedia article into another language is generally going to be a bit easier to do that trying to do the opposite from a policy or guideline standpoint. Of course, not all English Wikipedia articles are equal, and probably many can be found which really shouldn't have been created in the first place; so, simply an article existing on English Wikipedia doesn't automatically mean that the same article should also exist on another language Wikipedia. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:03, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

Format

Many reference books do not have ISBN codes or they are difficult to find. Were all the pages with ISBN's added by people who painstakingly searched for it or something ? Windowfamine (talk) 23:27, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

@Windowfamine: Here's additional info about ISBN numbers and Wikipedia that might help you. Wikipedia:ISBN TimTempleton ^(talk) ^(cont) 23:38, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Hi Windowfamine. While it's helpful to add identifiers such as ISBN when citing a book, it's not a requirement as far as I am aware. See WP:CITEHOW for some other types of information which is suggested to be provided when citing a book. As for how these ISBNs are ultimately found, I sometimes find them on sites such as Amazon, Google Books, etc. Sometimes googling the book's name leads to websites (sometimes even publisher websites) where more information about the book can be found. -- Marchjuly (talk) 23:51, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

@Windowfamine: One really, really good reason for searching for an ISBN number is that you can then use it in Visual Editor's 'Cite' window. Just past it in the 'automatic' tab to search for and insert the entire book reference. In fact, it's almost the only thing about Visual Editor that I find works better than the more traditional Source Editor. If you haven't tried it, do give it a go! In fact, it has been rumoured that adding book references to Wikipedia this way stops premature balding, and that editors who use it live, on average, five and a half years longer than editors who do not.^{[citation needed]} Honest! Nick Moyes (talk) 00:41, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

New draft for Italian actress Francesca Tasini

Hi All , I´ve created a draft for Italian actress Francesca Tasini here . Do you think is it ready to be moved on mainspace ? Thanks--Abarin (talk) 20:58, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Abarin, No, the formatting has some issues, and the citations aren't great (I.E facebook citation you have to log in for) and overall doesn't establish notability. WelpThatWorked (talk) 21:10, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Agree, and her Italian Wikipedia article just deleted six days ago. [[3]] That would seem to affirm lack of notability. TimTempleton ^(talk) ^(cont) 23:14, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Hi @TimTempleton ^(talk)and @WelpThatWorked (talk) I´ve added some more sources to the draft even though they are mostly in Ita. For instance I´ve added to the the lead paraghaph an interview that discusses her in depth. Wouldn´t be enough to establish notability the fact that she has played the lead on a movie that has also been selected for the competition of the Italian David di Donatello ? --Abarin (talk) 23:34, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

@Abarin: I'm not seeing sufficient sourcing. The coverage needs to be about her, and not just interviews or articles about the films she appeared in. Interviews are more and more being considered primary sources and are not as suitable for acquiring biographical info. Rather than continue this very specific discussion here, on a forum meant for more general questions, you're welcome to submit the article, and if it's rejected, you can carry on the notability discussion with other reviewing editors, and continue to edit and improve the article while it's under consideration. Here's info for how to publish Wikipedia:Articles for creation. Good luck. TimTempleton ^(talk) ^(cont) 00:40, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

Thanks TimTempleton ^(talk) ^(cont) Will do.--Abarin (talk) 01:16, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

Question about notability Gambian Brewery

I was on the verge of creating a new article today, but after reading the New Article Checklist I believe it's better to ask advice before I proceed.

The article would be about Julbrew, the only brewing company of The Gambia. It is a modest brewery with mainly a local production and consumption, and I am not affiliated with it in any way.

The thing that would make the company notable is mainly it being the only one in the country.

Resources I found were http://julbrew.com/about/ (company website) https://www.ratebeer.com/beer/banjul-jul-brew/30591/ (74 ratings on ratebeer) https://www.allgambianews.com/2017/11/20/police-question-julbrew-management-scandal/ (local news paper mentioning a scandal)

Reasons I thought it should be included at first were among others discovering that it had an article on the Dutch wikipedia (https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julbrew) But maybe they respect other standards there. Reasons I could think of why it should not: in the list of African beer compagnies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_in_Africa, there are a lot of breweries without their own article.

To be honest I believe my motivation to create this article is somewhat related with the fact that I've never did that so far and I would like to have some experience in starting an article. Though that should not be a reason in itself to discard the proposal I believe.

So: does this brewery meet notability standards or doesn't it? Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Flekkie (talk • contribs) 22:51, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

@Flekkie: I think you're better off trying to start a Banjul Breweries article, owner of the Julbrew brand. Here's a German article [[4]] which you can translate using this link [[5]]. Sourcing is light but you'll have a better chance getting the parent approved with limited sourcing than an individual brand. Here are various sources of various quality and reliability, but which contain info that can be used. [[6]] [[7]] [[8]] [[9]] [[10]] Some sourcing says they are owned by Castel Group, which you could link from, so it's not an orphan. TimTempleton ^(talk) ^(cont) 23:03, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

If anyone is interested, an draft for the article is at Draft:Banjul Breweries. MarkZusab (talk) 02:14, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

Day of Week

What is the policy of including the name of the day of the week that sports events are played? From what I remember about the format unless that has a significant aspect in the event it is rather superfluous as well as the time especially as WP is not a schedule time table so that enthusiast do not miss a match?2605:E000:9149:8300:69BF:7771:CA4C:222D (talk) 04:22, 26 February 2019 (UTC)