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Primary and secondary schools

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Our Lady of Fatima College (Port Harcourt)

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Our Lady of Fatima College (Port Harcourt) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Just one single source. No other source to proof notability. 7G🍁 (🪓) 14:46, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cantonment Public School and College, Rangpur

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Cantonment Public School and College, Rangpur (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The only independent reliable sources found in English or Bengali are brief mentions in lists (e.g. [1]). They do not contain the significant coverage required to justify a stand alone article. Was earlier redirected to the surrounding community, Rangpur Cantonment, where the school is mentioned, but the redirect was removed by an editor who appears very familiar with the school outside of what published sources say. Worldbruce (talk) 15:24, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Initially it was a independent article but later someone removed all texts and redirected to Rangpur Cantonment.
Then I rescued this article. It’s a famous school in northern Bangladesh.
unfortunately i didn’t add any reference.
Now I’ve added some references, it’s not an easy task to get newslink for a school.
There is also articles about this school in other languages.
I’m requesting not to delete this article. Cerium4B (talk) 21:59, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The sources you've added — the school's website, two copies of a press release, another promotional piece with no byline, a blank page at the District Education Office, and a job posting — lack independence from the school and so do not demonstrate notability (which is not the same as being famous). Also, most of them fail to support the content (see citing sources for more information). That it is not an easy task to get sources for this school is a sign that it is not notable.
That two other language versions of Wikipedia have an article about the school is not relevant to this discussion. Just because an article exists, doesn't mean it should exist, and each language version operates under its own policies and guidelines, decided by the editors who edit there, so even if an article should exist in one language that doesn't mean it should exist in another. --Worldbruce (talk) 00:57, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
https://www.kalerkantho.com/online/country-news/2024/06/03/1394068
Worldbruce
Check this news; it’s in Bengali. Please translate it.
I’m requesting you not to delete this article- Cantonment Public School and College, Rangpur. It’s very hard to find news about a school. Cerium4B (talk) 13:50, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support Non of the sources seem like anything but fluff pieces. The sources that aren't their own site or government data seem to be small local papers. Honestly, too many schools probably have a wiki page and should be removed.
Speederzzz (Talk) (Stalk) 18:57, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Kaler Kantho just a small local newspaper? 😂
Honestly, I believe Wikipedia should restrict foreigners from editing articles related to other countries. Cerium4B (talk) 21:44, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What do you mean by this, Cerium4B? We are all anonymous, so I'm not sure who you are referring to by labeling editors "foreigners". Liz Read! Talk! 04:37, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Liz
Actually i am talking about @Speederzzz.
He is from Netherland.
He said that Kaler Kantho is a small local newspaper but it is a National newspaper in Bangladesh. Cerium4B (talk) 04:53, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Worldbruce
Check these references related to Cantonment Public School and College, Rangpur from reputed newspapers of Bangladesh (including The Daily Star, Prothom Alo)
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[15] Cerium4B (talk) 05:10, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Since you do not seem to get what is and isn't Significant coverage, I will show you how your sources are/aren't applicable. If you want some more examples, WP:SIRS has some.
[16] Not significant, only 4 pictures.
[17] Not significant, 1 sentence in an extremely short list.
[18] 404 error
[19] Not significant, 1 sentence in an extremely short list.
[20] No direct discussion of topic, only passing mention that the 3rd place in an essay writing competition went to that school.
[21] Not significant, only passing mention in this artist's life. (The title wasn't even correct, the original title doesn't even mention the school)
[22] 404 error, I cannot be sure but the lack of capital letter makes me think this title was changed from it's real title too.
[23] Not significant, short announcement that they are the highest scoring school in the region that year.
[24] No direct discussion of topic, only short mention that one of the participants went to the school.
[25] No direct discussion of topic, only states students came from the school. Title was also changed, instead first sentence was used.
[26] Not significant, very short mention in a very short letter.
[27] Not significant, only one small mention in a list of school results.
[28] Not significant, only one small mention in a list of schools.
[29] Not significant, only one small mention in a list of schools. Title was changed in a weird way.
[30] Not significant, only one small mention in a list of schools. Title was also weirdly changed.
As you can see non of these sources are usable under the rules of significant coverage. If someone so fervent to keep the page can't even find significant coverage, I don't think anyone is going to find it.
Speederzzz (Talk) (Stalk) 12:05, 21 October 2024 (UTC) Speederzzz (Talk) (Stalk) 12:05, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
First of all, I'm female. Second, I said seem because the style does not seem very "national news-y". Some of these sources mention a lot of these schools in a list and not talk about the school in specific or the school is mentioned in passing only. If you want I can look at all your sources and show you which ones are and are not indicative of significant coverage, but one of them is just four pictures, so I feel like you might not fully understand the policies on significant coverage.
Speederzzz (Talk) (Stalk) 09:32, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Şifa University

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Şifa University (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I can see from the sources on the Turkish article that it existed. Are universities automatically notable? I guess not as it has been tagged as possibly not notable for years. Chidgk1 (talk) 11:49, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bangladesh Railway Government Chandraprabha Vidyapitha

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AfDs for this article:
Bangladesh Railway Government Chandraprabha Vidyapitha (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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There was no consensus to delete this in 2014 or 2015. Following a February 2017 RFC, secondary schools are not presumed to be notable simply because they exist, which until then was a main argument for keeping this. All schools are subject to the notability guidelines. Searches in English and Bengali found nothing that would demonstrate notability, nothing more substantial than inclusion in government lists of schools and passing mentions. Redirection to Paksey, where the school is located, is a possibile alternative to deletion. Worldbruce (talk) 12:08, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

SMK Lembah Subang

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SMK Lembah Subang (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unreferenced for 16 years and fails WP:NSCHOOL for lack of coverage. Since last AfD we now do not grant inherent notability to high schools. LibStar (talk) 00:55, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Education, Schools, and Malaysia. LibStar (talk) 00:55, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Seems to have won some awards, but haven't found any in-depth coverage. CMD (talk) 07:55, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Article fails WP:NSCHOOL Tesleemah (talk) 12:23, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Little comes up in searches. Plenty of false hits to wade through, but I am only finding the usual mix of primary sources and routine announcements. Nothing demonstrating notability. The keep votes in the previous old AfD basically agreed there was nothing notable but that it should be kept because it is a school. Now it is possible, always, that schools from places outside the anglosphere will have sourcing in another language. However, as a rule of thumb, this school has less than 600 students [3] and has been open just 20 years. A school this small and this young is very unlikely to be notable unless there has been something exceptional that raised its profile (and a 16 year old unsourced stub article that makes no such claims rather suggests there is nothing). I doubt suitable sourcing exists in any language. Certainly we have nothing from which to write an encyclopaedic article. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 07:03, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Universities and colleges

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New Zealand College of Business

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New Zealand College of Business (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Cannot find any independent secondary coverage to satisfy NCORP. Current refs are not independent or are promotional. Article was created by an SPA. Traumnovelle (talk) 22:38, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Not eligible for soft-deletion due to recent de-prodding.
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Dar es Salaam School of Journalism

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Dar es Salaam School of Journalism (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NORG and WP:ORGCRIT. I couldn't find multiple reliable sources, which are independent and address the organisation in depth and in detail. TarnishedPathtalk 05:50, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hindu University of America

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Hindu University of America (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This institution is unaccredited, and SCHOOLOUTCOMES#2 cannot apply. Thus, it needs to pass the stringent WP:NORG, which it does not — there is no significant coverage of the subject in multiple reliable secondary sources independent of the subject. TrangaBellam (talk) 21:05, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Education, Hinduism, India, United States of America, and Florida. TrangaBellam (talk) 21:07, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 21:15, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: Per nomination. Doesn't meet notability, fails WP:SIGCOV. Ratekreel (talk) 23:21, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Page does not satisfy the notability guidelines for organization. Poor sources on the page with no significant coverage. Fails WP:NSCHOOL. RangersRus (talk) 11:40, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. I've expanded the article by adding several references, including to a fairly in-depth profile in the Orlando Sentinel, and to a book by a sociologist who describes the emergence of the university and calls it a "milestone". Notability is arguably established, and even if it isn't, more references with nontrivial material can be found. One of the primary purposes of notability guidelines is to ensure that there is sufficient material to create an informative article, and there is clearly enough published material on this university (even though one might wish for more so that an even meatier article would be possible). For further expansion, there just needs to be effort put in to tap that material and integrate it into the article. --Presearch (talk) 23:19, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Have you noted that this "fairly in-depth profile" has no author? So, no — an advertorial (churnalism) in a local newspaper does NOT add toward notability.
    Notability is arguably established, and even if it isn't, more references with nontrivial material can be found This article is at AfD because I (and others) believe that notability is not established and I am happy to see you accept that. Regrettably, we cannot speculate about sourcing esp. that we are discussing an organization in USA and not, say, Sudan! Further, WP:NEXIST cautions, However, once an article's notability has been challenged, merely asserting that unspecified sources exist is seldom persuasive, especially if time passes and actual proof does not surface.
    It's not my case that no sources exist — 1 and 2 from among the very few hits in Newspapers.com — but that they are trivial and/or they are routine run-of-the-mill coverage. TrangaBellam (talk) 07:23, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I've added several more sources, all with named authors, and arguably all from reliable sources. All of these provide "more than a trivial mention," and in some cases the university was indeed "the main topic of the source material", so each of these arguably contributes "significant coverage" for meeting general notability (WP:GNG)
    Regarding the Orlando Sentinel article, that may now be moot, but it's worth noting that the newspaper is reputable, and the userfied (non-Wikipedia) essay on "churnalism" acknowledges that "If a reliable source decides to fact check a press release and write a story about it, it then meets the definition of coming from a reliable source" - that raises the question of whether an absence of named author is enough grounds to treat this article as unreliable when it's from an otherwise reputable source (have you found any duplicate versions of the same material on numerous sites?). (By the way, friend, I suspect you know that a statement that something "is arguably established" is different than stating that it is "not established") --Presearch (talk) 01:14, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    "News India Times" is not even a RS in all probabilities. And, a couple of articles in India Abroad — a now-defunct publication aimed exclusively at the Indian diaspora with a peak circulation of ~ thirty thousand — do not make the entity wiki-notable; if anything, such meager coverage in such a niche publication only goes to demonstrate the non-notability.
    Further, NCORP has a higher standard for sources to contribute toward notability. This is due to the levels of (undisclosed; see WP:TOI) paid-coverage frequently engaged in by business entities. So, we look for sources that do not mechanically reproduce what the organization says and show some critical engagement. TrangaBellam (talk) 05:42, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't know whether it's just a republished press release or not, but just because a newspaper is small, defunct, or aimed at a particular audience does not mean that it is not reliable as a source. Besides, 30,000 people is a large number. If there's any good reason to believe that it is not an RS or is a press release, then I see your point, but just size does not disqualify sources. Mrfoogles (talk) 06:30, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Leaning keep. I get 290 hits on Newspapers.com, including the fairly substantial Mark I. Pinsky, "School of Thought: Hindu University begins journey in teaching... with a degree of karma", The Hilton Head Island Packet (July 3, 2004), p. 1-C, 3-C, and Amy Limbert, "Kuldip Gupta, 66, helped found, lead Hindu University of America", The Orlando Sentinel (February 9, 2007), p. B6. Also, "Hinduism: Studying the ancients", The Atlanta Constitution (September 28, 1996), p. G4; "Beavercreek: Online Hindu classes", Dayton Daily News (January 9, 2021), p. B3. BD2412 T 01:46, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Final relist. It would be helpful to get a futher review of sources presented in this discussion.
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Source listing:
So the book, the Orlando Times article, and the Rediff article seem like good sources, even if the latter two have no author listed for some reason. The book seems to think it is significant in the history of what it recounts.
Voting Keep in absence of these sources being discredited, because those three are good. Mrfoogles (talk) 06:45, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Other school or university articles

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School or university organisations proposed for deletion

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To check articles which are being proposed for deletion search by date at Category:Proposed deletion or see the summary of PRODs at User:DumbBOT/ProdSummary. It is common to find schools of all types on this list.

  1. ^ "Rangpur Cantonment Public School". NTV. 2017.
  2. ^ "Cantonment Public Schools and Colleges Are at the Top Again in Rangpur". Barta24. 2023.
  3. ^ "Four Schools from Rangpur in the Top Ten". Prothom Alo. 2014.
  4. ^ "Top Educational Institutions in Rangpur". Prothom Alo. 2015.
  5. ^ "Bronze Medal Won". Prothom Alo. 2018.
  6. ^ "Weaving Dreams ex student of Cantonment Public School and College, Rangpur". Prothom Alo. 2019.
  7. ^ "teacher of Cantonment Public School and College, Rangpur making the opening of Bangladesh math Olympiad". Prothom Alo. 2015.
  8. ^ "Cantonment Public School and College, Rangpur best in Rangpur division". The Daily Star. 2011.
  9. ^ "Youngsters Showcasing Their Skills". The Daily Star. 2024.
  10. ^ "Students of Rangpur Cantonment Public School and College blocked Rangpur-Dinajpur highway". The Daily Star. 2020.
  11. ^ "To the Prime Minister from Rangpur". The Daily Star. 2011.
  12. ^ "result summary". The Daily Star. 2008.
  13. ^ "HSC results". The Daily Star. 2013.
  14. ^ "top college of city". The Daily Star. 2009.
  15. ^ "stood second in Dinajpur board". The Daily Star. 2009.
  16. ^ "Rangpur Cantonment Public School". NTV. 2017.
  17. ^ "Cantonment Public Schools and Colleges Are at the Top Again in Rangpur". Barta24. 2023.
  18. ^ "Four Schools from Rangpur in the Top Ten". Prothom Alo. 2014.
  19. ^ "Top Educational Institutions in Rangpur". Prothom Alo. 2015.
  20. ^ "Bronze Medal Won". Prothom Alo. 2018.
  21. ^ "Weaving Dreams". Prothom Alo. 2019.
  22. ^ "teacher of Cantonment Public School and College, Rangpur making the opening of Bangladesh math Olympiad". Prothom Alo. 2015.
  23. ^ "Cantonment Public School and College, Rangpur best in Rangpur division". The Daily Star. 2011.
  24. ^ "Youngsters Showcasing Their Skills". The Daily Star. 2024.
  25. ^ "Roadblock in Rangpur". The Daily Star. 2020.
  26. ^ "To the Prime Minister from Rangpur". The Daily Star. 2011.
  27. ^ "result summary". The Daily Star. 2008.
  28. ^ "HSC results". The Daily Star. 2013.
  29. ^ "Nine out of top 10 colleges from city". The Daily Star. 2009.
  30. ^ "Dinajpur board 2nd largest GPA-5 achievers". The Daily Star. 2009.
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