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Hey, Mrfoogles. Here on WP we have a very specific definition of WP:Vandalism, and it doesn't include inserting a joke into a discussion. Please don't edit war with people over attempts to inject mild levity into policy discussions. Valereee (talk) 21:12, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, I guess that was probably a bit unnecessary. Mrfoogles (talk) 02:12, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

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Jersey (clothing) fork

Hello, I saw that you have forked the jersey (clothing) article. Wouldn't it be better if the article remained as is and kept all types of jerseys on one article? they all fall under the umbrella term clothing. if it were a totally different thing, then i'd split. for example, if someone put jersey (the island) with jersey (clothing).

on the other hand sports jersey on its own could probably be expanded further. what do you think? Adenosine Triphosphate (talk) 08:52, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

I split them because even though they’re referred to by the same term, they’re different kinds of clothing; very few sports jerseys are traditional knit jerseys like are shown on the jerseys (clothing) article. I was also planning to add some of the content from uniform, maybe, which I am also trying to split. I think it definitely could be expanded, like most articles Mrfoogles (talk) 15:50, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

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Mgp28 (talk) 15:37, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

That's pretty much what I thought also. I already have a section in Hibernation factor on Balon, only it's not as long because it's not its own article. Do you mind marking it as a promising draft? I figured I'd leave it there for when the protein does get some coverage (probably in several years, but I imagine it will eventually) Mrfoogles (talk) 16:09, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

I've added the promising draft template. I think you could still add more to the Hibernation factor article without it being too long. Mgp28 (talk) 16:23, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

I maybe could, but I'll probably leave it condensed so that there's space. The important information is already in the article. Mrfoogles (talk) 16:45, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

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Thanks, I try to review a couple articles when I put one in. It's pretty much just me occasionally, Ktkvtsh, and you, but it's surprisingly not-dead for all that. Probably not going to join any wikiprojects, though. Mrfoogles (talk) 02:28, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

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Thank you. jlwoodwa (talk) 05:42, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

Well, I do know, I just forgot. Thanks for telling me I missed one, though. Mrfoogles (talk) 14:54, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

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List of cities and towns along the Tennessee River moved to draftspace

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I understand spices being helpful, but I’m not sure you’re right here, because this is a list article. For example, List of cities and towns along the Potomac River also has no sources. Most list articles don’t have sources. You could say the grouping is less obvious because you can’t tautologically say an arbitrary city is along a river, but they can be easily verified by looking at a map: I could cite google maps, maybe? How would you feel if I added that source and then undraftified? (The AFC process takes months and I’d rather avoid it for a tiny article like this one).

I pretty much copy-pasted it from a list in the article, so I wasn’t worrying too much about sources. Mrfoogles (talk) 15:15, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

Re: last comment: just realized you said you were ok if it was moved back, added apple maps as a source and spot-checked a random sample and did so. Mrfoogles (talk) 15:26, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

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Nature tourism

Hi there. As part of New Page Review I've restored the redirect of Nature tourism to Ecotourism. I saw you cite a Vox.com article that points to differences, but enough sources (including ones you cited in your Nature tourism stub, such as this one, this one, and this one basically say they're overlapping or identical concepts. To avoid creating a WP:CONTENTFORK, the best place to explore this difference (to the extent there is one) is in the much-better-established Ecotourism article. If you disagree, feel free to revert my redirect, but know that if it is reverted I will nominate the page at Articles for Deletion to restore a stable redirect. Thanks! Dclemens1971 (talk) 14:28, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

The second and third ones there don’t actually present them as identical; the 2nd says they “overlap” and the 3rd, if you scroll down a couple paragraphs, explains the difference. The 1st also has a section on ecotourism and explains the differences (basically, while ecotourism can just be a marketing term, it is supposed to include environmental education and conservation, not just nature). The two concepts definitely overlap, but all the sources you mentioned clearly distinguish them, except in the case where ecotourism is only used as a marketing term.

While they are similar, I think the key difference is ecotourism adds education. A lot of info that just applies to nature tourism in general is in the ecotourism article and would probably need to be moved (or maybe ecotourism should be a subsection), but that said I think the articles should be separate. Mrfoogles (talk) 15:08, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

Given the argument over the term (see Ecotourism#Definition), maybe it would be better to just have a nature tourism article with subsections. Mrfoogles (talk) 15:11, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

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Edward Tynte

Regarding your feedback on Edward Tynte, I added some more information, but admittedly there seems to be a lack of sources regarding Tynte. Do you know any Wikipedians specializing in history who could perhaps help me find some more sources on him? Thanks, TarheelBornBred (talk) 17:12, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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Well, for someone who wasn't governor for very long, I don't think you're going to find a whole lot, since there simply isn't much to say. But I don't think you've exhausted the limits of basic web checks like google scholar and google books. (eg, gschol: [1]) Most of them seem to be talking about his death, but again, hardly surprising. If you're paywalled out of any of those sources, try WP:WPL or WP:RX. WP:RDH is a good place to ask if you have any specific questions about a historical fact. -- asilvering (talk) 18:16, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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I agree it's important to have edit summaries, but in this case (rating large numbers of chemistry list articles as lists to try to clean them up) it'd slow down the process a lot to have to type out the edit summary every time, so I chose not to. It does make it more inconvenient if you're trying to figure out who rated the page, but when making that number of edits it's not worth it. It might be worth writing edit summaries for the higher (B,C) rated articles, I acknowledge. Mrfoogles (talk) 08:48, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

I actually first became aware while looking at article-space via chloropyridine, where a factual mistake was introduced. That mistake itself is no big deal, easily fixed. Then a few of the talk-page edits were on my watchlist, and I agree that they are fine edits, but it wasted my time because I had to read to decide if there was a talkpage comment I wanted to respond to. That's not a potential inconvenience looking back later if someone is interested in ratings, but an actual inconvenience for everyone who has it on watchlist at the time you make each such edit. It seems like a main item is "add class=list to talkpage of articles in a setlist category", which sounds like an easy bot-task to request. DMacks (talk) 09:30, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

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Richard Flagan

I saw you added an "Independent sources" tag to the Richard Flagan article which I created. Its notability is based on WP:NACADEMIC criteria #1, #2, #3, #5, and #8. Most academics don't have articles written about them in independent WP:RS which is why (based on my understanding of WP:NOTABILITY) that Notability (academics) has its own policy. Note the "Independent sources" tag states that "This article may rely excessively on sources too closely associated with the subject, potentially preventing the article from being verifiable and neutral." But I don't think there's anything in the article that isn't verifiable or neutral. Are there particular points you are concerned about? I'm inclined to remove the tag but wanted to hear from you first. Nnev66 (talk) 01:15, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

I added the tag to say that it would be better to have sources independent of him (organizations he is not a board member of, i.e.), not that he wasn't notable. Looking at it the policy does say "Once the passage of one or more notability criteria has been verified through independent sources, or through the reliable sources listed explicitly for this purpose in the specific criteria notes, non-independent sources, such as official institutional and professional sources, are widely accepted as reliable sourcing for routine, uncontroversial details.", I guess. Still, I'm not seeing any sources on the article that go into detail on him that aren't bios written by organizations he has major influence in -- this can make articles have kind of a one-sided perspective when controversial issues are involved; it would be better to have independent sources. Given there aren't any concrete problems, though, and it's per policy, I'll remove the tag. I wonder if there really aren't any independent sources, though. Mrfoogles (talk) 01:45, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for your response and for removing the tag. I did look for sources using search engines, Proquest, and Newspapers.com. For academics, there just aren't mainstream publications that write in-depth articles about them for the most part. This article would fail WP:GNG because of this. I agree that universities/institutions are likely going to publish positive things about their professors, but I just tried to get information about this subject from these sources to include additional details, e.g. his relationship with his collaborators. I spent more time on this article than I intended because I was trying to write an article beyond the perfunctory. Nnev66 (talk) 02:18, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

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