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Museum to a defunct retailer

Are there any F.W. Woolworth Company museums in the USA? Anyone know, please? Thank you.2603:7000:8100:9390:18A:4B43:4363:B660 (talk) 02:44, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

The Woolworth building in Greensboro is currently the site of the International Civil Rights Center & Museum, though I doubt that's what you're looking for. And there is apparently a defunct museum to the defunct realtor in Oxnard, California. [1] Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 02:59, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Realtor? Selling five-and-dime real estate?  --Lambiam 11:43, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

He may have misunderstood. I was referring to a retailer.2603:7000:8100:9390:FDC9:68B7:4B9B:5D0E (talk) 20:55, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

It's just a typo. The museum in Oxnard is to the retailer. Apologies Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 12:55, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Not quiet a museum, but the original Woolworth doors at the location in St. Augustine are still there with an informational plaque outside (the first floor of the building now hosts a few different stores). Also, the counter from inside has been preserved at the Lincolnville Museum and Cultural Center, also in St. Augustine. Amscheip (talk) 21:28, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

Horace-Camille Desmoulins (1792-1825)

What were his political ideas after his parents' deaths until his death: republican, bonapartist, royalist, or others? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.207.117.230 (talk) 11:28, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

In 1800 Napoleon granted the young boy a scholarship to the Prytanée français, which he entered in 1801, so it is possible he felt some gratitude or loyalty towards the emperor. In 1816, the year before he went to Haiti, he was given the right to wear the Decoration of the Lily,^[2] which suggests that at the time he had royalist leanings. At least, if he had any republican leanings, he kept them to himself.  --Lambiam 12:29, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

can you search better in other sources? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.207.192.170 (talk) 16:48, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

I doubt that his life has been documented that well. The only reason he is of some interest is because of his parents.  --Lambiam 11:47, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Can you search the same things even for Jacques-Rene Hebert's daughter? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.207.100.160 (talk) 11:23, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Not much is known of her. At the age of 16 she married an Evangelical pastor;^[3] my best guess is that she was rather apolitical.  --Lambiam 12:35, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Murder in Russian law

Why is murder (under ordinary circumstances) punished so leniently (only 6-15 years)? Someone who's wrong on the internet (talk) 12:43, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

I'm not a legal expert, but 6-15 years imprisonment as punishment for murder doesn't seem off the grid by European standards. Notably the same Wikipedia article indicates that there are provisions for much harsher punishments (incl. life imprisonment or death penalty) depending on different factors (such as cruelty, economic motive, terrorism, etc..) --Soman (talk) 16:45, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Yes. "Murder" is a not a consistently defined legal or linguistic concept. In the US alone you have first-degree murder, second degree murder, third degree murder (in some jurisdictions), and different versions of manslaughter. If I remember correctly, when "murder" was introduced into English law, shortly after the bastard took over, it referred only to the killing of a Norman by an Anglo-Saxon. The 6-15 years above apply to "intentional killing of a human" without any aggravating circumstances. --Stephan Schulz (talk) 22:14, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

In many European countries, the maximum sentence for murder is not that much different. Murder in Norwegian law & Murder in Swedish law show maximum sentences on line with the above, many others Murder in Portuguese law, Murder in French law etc. show maximums of 25-30 years. --Jayron32 18:36, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Conversely, Russian law punishes hooliganism (хулиганство) and even suspicion of hooliganism can result in jail time whereas such a legal concept does not exist in Western Europe. Fishing Publication (talk) 20:41, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

How is "hooliganism" defined, exactly? Someone who's wrong on the internet (talk) 21:18, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

The Hooliganism article has a section on Hooliganism in the Soviet Union and Russia. AnonMoos (talk) 02:29, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Found the statute: [4]

Seems similar to disorderly conduct. Here in the US, I've never heard of DC being punished as a felony (unless your name is Jussie Smollett). Someone who's wrong on the internet (talk) 16:58, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

But anyone who publicly protests against the government in Russia will almost certainly behave (or can be claimed to have behaved) in a 'disorderly' fashion, so it's very easy for the authorities to quickly try, convict and imprison them. Thus order is maintained. /s {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 51.198.55.125 (talk) 00:09, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

Russia does not have a monopoly on vague laws regarding disorderly conduct. Far from it! [5] Someone who's wrong on the internet (talk) 05:03, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

Meaning of this American flag variant?

I try to keep up with all the variant American flag meanings because I'm interested in political speech, but I saw this one on a vehicle today near Chicago and can't find any corresponding examples on TinEye or Google Image Search. All-black flag with eagle over stars. Help! DrewHeath (talk) 14:48, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

That looks exactly like the Polish eagle. It was used on the Prussian flag that had the eagle in center with a white background and black stripes on top and bottom. So, it appears to be a mix between the United States flag and the Prussian flag, perhaps indicating solidarity with countries in the area (Poland and Ukraine)? 97.82.165.112 (talk) 15:17, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Update. According to a world history professor at Furman University, the eagle is certainly a Polish Eagle because it is wearing a crown. It is a strong anti-Communist symbol. If it didn't have a crown, it would be a rather offensive symbol of a conquered Poland during WWII. You can find many similar examples by searching for Prussian American Flag art. 97.82.165.112 (talk) 18:21, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

So, I'm not finding any information on that exact flag, but the use of the Polish Eagle on an American flag background seems to be something associated with Polish Americans in general. You can see lots of examples on things like flags, posters, and tattoos here. --Jayron32 18:28, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

You say that you saw it near Chicago — Poles in Chicago are a longstanding major ethnic community, one of the largest Polish communities anywhere outside Poland. Nyttend (talk) 19:30, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Levi Suydam

Can anyone find the election that Suydam's vote was the deciding factor in? I can't find any mention closer to the time it seems to have happened than James Barry's account. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 21:58, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

James Barry (report) as well as other health control related institutions (121) indicate the occurrence was Election Day. Thus the notion the issue was a deciding factor locally means that it must have been such locally only (senatorial, 5th congressional district, April 10, gobernorial, April 5, the first Monday in April as hinted by Barry was on April 3 ). --Askedonty (talk) 20:35, 7 March 2023 (UTC)