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if i do wrong editing to any wikipedia articles, so what will happen to me?

if i do wrong editing to any wikipedia articles, so what will happen to me? i know nothing will happen to me, wikipedia just blocks me from editing thats all. but what about this, somebody edited the John Seigenthaler article in a wrong way leads to "Seigenthaler incident". finally what happened to the person who edited in wrong way? Ram nareshji (talk) 04:36, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Good-faith edits that unintentially violate policy are simply reverted. See Wikipedia:Vandalism for how deliberate problem edits are defined and dealt with here. The Siegenthaler incident was unusual because it involved the biography of a living person, so might have had wider implications both for Wikipedia itself and for the person concerned (who had also drawn his employer into the matter by using a workplace computer to make the offending edit, and who almost lost his job as a result). See Libel. Because we don't have a crystal ball we cannot predict the future, but a Google search will show you various cases where the law has been invoked to deal with user-generated content - on sites like Facebook, for example. To avoid any such problems when editing Wikipedia, you can ensure all your edits are neutral in tone and verifiable via a reliable source. - Ka renjc 12:15, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

why on each top of the wikipedia article showing prototype 2013 film on october 1 2012?

why on each top of the wikipedia article showing prototype 2013 film?Ram nareshji (talk) 04:48, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

What page is this? Mdann52 (talk) 12:30, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Hmm. Possibly The Prototype (film) and this is a question about a concept akin to WP:CRYSTAL?---Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:34, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Adding a Proof to Apollonius' Theorem page

Answered at Help Desk--ukexpat (talk) 20:35, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

I am a brand new member. I joined because I would like to add content to the Proof section to Apollonius" Theorem. The current proof depends on trigonometric identities, and I would like to add a more basic one that only depends on geometry. I will need to include a reference diagram and mathematical equations. How do I go about doing this? Thanks, SalSpinella (talk) 20:30, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Already answered at Wikipedia:Help_desk#Apollonius' Theorem. Please keep the discussion there.--ukexpat (talk) 20:33, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

finding the creation date of a wiki page - Ted Kennedy

I am trying to find the date of when Ted Kennedy's wiki page was created. I also would be interested to know where the initial information came from to form the entry? 50.135.17.143 (talk) 21:47, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

At any article, you can click on "history" to see the list of revisions to the page. You can then click on "earliest" to see the oldest revisions, rather than the most recent ones. The first revision of the article, the "original" article, will be at the bottom. Clicking on the date-links will show you what the article looked like at the time. Someguy1221 (talk) 21:58, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Click the "View history" tab at top of the article and then "earliest" to see [1]. It was created with one line [2] in February 2003. It has been edited thousands of times since then. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:06, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

October 2

WikiQuestions

I was on Jimmy Wales' talk page and I suggested a new wiki, WikiQuestions. Jimmy hasn't replied yet, but other users have. One suggested to come her since I've only joined recently. I want to know, where do I put the proposal for this? This is not WikiAnswers and there is no other language with this.--Lucky102 (talk) 19:31, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Hi Lucky102. Proposals for new Wikimedia projects are made at Meta-Wiki, the global community site for the Wikimedia Foundation's projects and related projects. See specifically m:Proposals for new projects. An IP address actually created a page there called m:Wikiquestions, but it is an empty page and the person never followed-up, so it's impossible to tell what exactly they were intending. Have you considered that this might be redundant with our already well-established and well-staffed reference desk?--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 20:30, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, Fughettaboutit. What do you mean by your last comment?--Lucky102 (talk) 20:48, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

I think Fughettaboutit means that our reference desk is a well-established site (or set of sites) where people ask questions and others answer them as best they can. Did you mean something other than that with your proposal? --ColinFine (talk) 21:26, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

You only revealed the name "WikiQuestions" and not what the wiki should do. Fuhghettaboutit probably wondered whethered your suggestion might be similar to Wikipedia's reference desk where users can ask and answer questions not about Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:26, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Exactly as to both. Without anything else to go on but the title "WikiQuestions", I think most people would assume your idea is the creation of question and answer Wikimedia project, which is what the reference desk is, albeit, subsumed within the Wikipedia project.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:05, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

By WikiQuestions, I mean a Wiki that users could post a question about something, for example, why is the sky blue, or, What date was Usain Bolt born? etc.--Lucky102 (talk) 15:07, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Well, that still sounds very similar to the existing reference desk. Gandalf61 (talk) 15:27, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Should I put it up for creation? If I do, do you want to be mentioned?--Lucky102 (talk) 15:52, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

NO! Lucky, you seem to be the only one in this discussion who doesn't understand that we don't need a separate WikiQuestions, since it would apparently duplicate the purpose of our already-flourishing Reference Desk service. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:50, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Alright then.--Lucky102 (talk) 19:29, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Missing contributions

Hi, I made nine image contributions on 9/30/2012, but they are not listed under my contributions as of 10/2/2012. They were listed a few days ago. How do I determine where they went or how/why they are not there. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Snowilli (talk • contribs) 12:54, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

You'll find them listed in your contribution record in Wikimedia Commons, not here in the English Wikipedia. - David Biddulph (talk) 13:02, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

The Report On Manufactures

Reading the Report on Manufactures, you will notice that the Report was requested by Congress, and he was delayed by other work in making the Report. It was a fairly long and detailed plan, that advocated an independent national economy with an industrial base supported by American agriculture. Great Britain had a twenty year lead on the U.S. developing their industrial base, and it was to protect our industrial base from being undercut by the British, who had a fully developed industrial base! it was also designed as an independent source for weapons for national defense! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.37.185.124 (talk) 22:26, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

OK. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 22:28, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

I'm guessing you must be suggesting adding something to the article Report on Manufactures. You're welcome to add to the article, but only if you have reliable sources for what you are adding. What you have said in the paragraph above sounds as if it may be original research, which is not permitted in Wikipedia. If you are not sure, you might make the suggestion on the article's talk page. --ColinFine (talk) 13:20, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

October 3

Linking to non-free content

If I have a hard copy of an article that is not online, can I upload it to Wikipedia as a pdf file then link to the pdf file in a reference? Or should I simply use the article citation as my reference? The article is copyrighted and non-free. I read the policy WP:NFC and I think it's allowed, but I want to be certain. Kmzundel (talk) 13:33, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Assuming that the article has in fact been published in a reliable source, it's not necessary to make it available online (verifiability doesn't require that sources be instantly available online). You can cite the source without providing a link to it. Yunshui 雲‍水 14:10, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! Kmzundel (talk) 14:20, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

But please use the appropriate {{Cite}} template, completing as many of the parameters as you can, so that anyone who wishes to verify the source has enough details to do so.--ukexpat (talk) 14:33, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Absolutely. I'm a librarian. :-) Kmzundel (talk) 14:41, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Copyright status of images created by Oklahoma State government - or alternative image of OK state senator Tom Ivester

Hi,

I'd like to use this image, linked from this page, in a wikipedia article.

But I can't work out its copyright status.

It's in a press release, here (although in a lower resolution). Press releases are by definition intended for others to use - does that make it public domain? (the low-rez version at least).

The image seems to have been created by the Oklahoma State Senate, so I thought it might be noncopyright, so I looked at Copyright status of work by the U.S. government, and it seemed like my guess was wrong, because that doesn't apply to works created by states as opposed to the federal government.

So I looked at Copyright status of work by U.S. state governments and also Oklahoma, and I'm none the wiser. I also took a look at List of U.S. state legal codes, and from that article followed this link - but it's 404 not found.

Erm, help?

I'm not an American so I'm not super-familiar with US copyright law as applied to state government.

(First I looked for existing free-use images of this individual, can't find any. Alternative images of this individual would be equally useful).

Thank you in advance.

--Mknjbhvgcf (talk) 20:36, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Issuing a press release does not waive copyright in the contents thereof. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:47, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

OK. Any idea on the 'created by Oklahoma state government' possibility? I.e. is information created by OK State copyright-free? --Mknjbhvgcf (talk) 21:20, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

You might try contacting Sen Ivester's office. Tell them that Wikipedia requires a photo that can be reused by anyone for anything. —teb728 t c 23:47, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you both for your help. I'll try contacting his office. --Mknjbhvgcf (talk) 09:32, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

October 4

Topic is covered

if the page does not exist on wikipedia but topic is covvered can i write about it?and how can i create a link for my lecture to view my work?and how can i make my talk and username become blue if it's purple? Emilly212022318 (talk) 11:36, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Can you explain a little more. Do you mean to create a page about a topic which is a section in an already existing article? Regarding your second query, where do you want to create a link? and regarding your third query, the link of user name and talk page becomes purple if you visit the page (just like every other hyperlink in webpages). --Anbu121 (talk me) 11:52, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Do you mean like User:Pgallert/General dealer, which is already covered under general store? --Orange Mike | Talk 13:13, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Deleted

What constitutes an entry getting deleted? The only thing that is clear is that someone deleted my entry to the page sighting incorrect format.

What does that mean? How can I get my entry back up on the sight? I thought it was a user edit interface?

Please Advise Jazziz995 (talk) 15:32, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Your only edits were to dump a huge chunk of promotional garbage into the article The Voice (U.S.), which read like it was copied directly from somebody's press release, but credited no sources. It even included junk about what brand of cymbals the drummer endorses! Such material has no place in an encyclopedia, where we demand neutral point of view and reliable sources, and where advertising is forbidden; and was properly removed immediately. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:46, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

The content added there talked about a band called 'Voice house', which has absolutely no connections with The Voice (U.S.). The content itself looked like a separate article. Jazziz995, if you were trying to create a new article, you can do so at Wikipedia:Articles for creation. But remember to write it in a neutral point of view with reliable sources. --Anbu121 (talk me) 16:00, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Actually more likely to be referring to the "house band" on the show, ie the resident band, just as the CBS Orchestra is Letterman's "house band".--ukexpat (talk) 16:41, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

International Bank is simply International Bank

International Bank of Washington does not exist. International Bank was a private merchant bank located at 1625 I St. NW Washington,D.C., just a few blocks from the White House. Source: The obituary of John F. Kiernan, The Washington Post Times Herald of May 13, 1959. The obituary states: John F. Kiernan was Vice President of International Bank in Washington, D.C. at the time of his death on May 11, 1959. International Bank was a private merchant bank that was located at 1625 I St. NW, just a few blocks from the White House. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.140.36.200 (talk) 15:44, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Interesting, but what exactly do you need help with? Do you want to write an article about this bank? If so, you'd probably need more sources than just an obituary that doesn't mention any details about the bank. Do we already have an article on the bank that gets the name wrong? Then you'd have to provide a little more context for us to fix that; an International Bank of Washington article currently does not exist. Huon (talk) 16:06, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

October 5

A mistaken year of author published of Abdomenea minimiflora just below on the picture for Binomial name

Good day,

To day, I've found a mistaken year published of Abdominea minimiflora just below on the picture for Binomial name. It is written "Abdominea minimiflora (Hook. f) J.J.S. (1914), and it is must be "Abdominea minimiflora (Hook. f.) J.J.S. (1917). I rfered reference from Holttum, R.E. 1957. A Revised Flora of Malaya, Volume I: Orchids of Malaya. The Botanic Gardens Singapore. Singapore. pp. 639 - 640. Thank you for your time and cooperation.

Regards, Orchid87 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Orchid87 (talk • contribs) 06:05, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Done. Thanks for the note. The year has been changed. There is an online ref too. --Anbu121 (talk me) 06:43, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Gurukul Public School

Gurukul Public School — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.200.230.161 (talk) 07:33, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Do you have a question about it? - Ka renjc 11:08, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Tribes

It is very shamefull for those peoples who decleared The Wikipedia of Khairpur Mir's,they don't have any knowledge regarding Tribes which are living in Khairpur Mir's. They have missed the main tribe of Khairpur, which have majority in three Talk: as Kot diji, Nara and Faiz gunj.That Tribe is RAJPER, so it is strictly suggested to those that pls edit Tribes of Khairpur Mir's. regerds:

Dr Shakeel Ahmed Rajper — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.182.68.97 (talk) 10:22, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Are we talking about the article Khairpur, Pakistan? It contains a listing of local tribes, but provides no sources at all to corroborate this. If you can improve the article, supporting your changes with a citation to a reliable source, you are welcome to do so. - Ka renjc 11:11, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

October 6

RAJESH CHAUHAN

Rajesh Chauhan son of Shri Rameshwar Chauhan, residing in Ishwar Colony, Bawana, Delhi-110039 is a noted international Hockey Player who represent India in World Cup. He was made Captain of Indian Hockey Team in two tournaments. Kindly make necessary changes in the Rajesh Chauhan profile under Bawana after consulting him.

KRISHAN KUMAR ARYA — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.59.101.62 (talk) 13:26, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia pages are not written by consulting the concerned people. Articles are written using information published through reliable independent sources. --Anbu121 (talk me) 13:31, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

If you make your suggestion on the talk page of the relevant article, you are more likely to find an editor there who is interested in working on that article. --ColinFine (talk) 18:57, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

I don't think the article exits. There is only a single sentence about the person at Bawana. Initially, it was linked to a wrong article, which I have removed now. --Anbu121 (talk me) 19:22, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

October 7

Article about father

According to the guidelines, one should not write and post articles about friends. I am working on an article about my father, who was a writer, and is now deceased. It is a very straightforward article, listing the facts about his life and work, and should not be controversial. Would it be acceptable for me to post such an article? Thanks. Healthpro22 (talk) 16:27, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

The guidelines on conflict of interest do not forbid this, but they discourage it. If you have done your best to be neutral, have referenced independent reliable sources for all the information in it, and ensured that the article establishes your father's notability, then you can post it. But I would strongly advise you to put it for review, declaring your conflict of interest, and be ready to accept other editors' views about the article's contents and tone. --ColinFine (talk) 16:50, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

October 8

Noah Richler

His newest book is called "What We Talk About When We Talk About War" and it was published in 2012. It is a finalist for the Non-fiction category of the Governor General's Awards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.98.13.121 (talk) 05:04, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

We have an article about Noah Richler, so you could go ahead and edit it to add this information. You will need a reliable source to support your addition. - Ka renjc 12:18, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

INTERNATIONAL SECURITY

NEED HELP ON THIS SUBJECT. AND FOUND SOME RELEVANT ANSWERS BUT NOT ALL IN THIS ARTICLE. I AM A SECURITY PRACTITIONER BASED IN NIGERIA. I AM PREPARING FOR SECURITY EXAMINATION. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.73.185.146 (talk) 16:03, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. --Orange Mike | Talk 16:09, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

... but please stop SHOUTING. - David Biddulph (talk) 16:43, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Jung Myun Seok

In the article titled Jung Myun Seok one of the statements which includes a citation is factually incorrect. Specifically it mentions that Mr Jung was a former member of the Unification church. He was never a member of the Unification church. How do we delete/fix this factual error?

thanks MrTownCar (talk) 18:21, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

If there were such an article, you would discuss this on the article's talk page (i.e., Talk:Jung Myun Seok). --Orange Mike | Talk 18:44, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Jung Myung Seok, I think. The assertion about the UC is cited to this article. I believe CNRS to be a reliable source, but the way I'm reading it, the article doesn't overtly state that Jung Myung Seok was ever a member of the UC, just that he founded a dissident sect, so it may not support the assertion. Can somebody else take a look? - Ka renjc 18:57, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

search

what is the defination of the word {search}? pleas explain. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.187.22.118 (talk) 18:22, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a dictionary; for that, see Wiktionary. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:45, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Add link

Can you add this local external link ?

www.tellerbb.com

Michael Standridge — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.56.225.189 (talk) 20:35, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Section title added Can who add that link to what? And why? You'll need to be more explicit as to what you are asking for. --ColinFine (talk) 21:56, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

October 9

biographical sources

Is Marquis Who's Who considered a good and reliable source for citations in bibliographical entries?Msmslblb (talk) 01:10, 9 October 2012 (UTC)Msmslblb

Nope. Most of their content is provided by the subject. (I oughta know; been in there once myself.) --Orange Mike | Talk 01:17, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

How do you upload images to my wikipedia page that I am currently updating?

I would like to add images to my page, how do I upload pictures? Gusto11071 (talk) 16:54, 9 October 2012 (UTC)gusto11071

You can upload pictures through Wikipedia:File Upload Wizard. But please read WP:Image use policy and Wikipedia:Uploading images to find out if the licensing of your picture is compatible with Wikipedia. I can see that you are editing an article about Hoffman Rescue knife. Is the picture you wish to upload photographed by you? --Anbu121 (talk me) 17:11, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

October 10

Awards

Year	Film Award/Critics	Award	Result
2012	60th FAMAS Awards	German Moreno Youth Achievement Awardee	{Won}

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.6.181.181 (talk) 08:40, 11 October 2012‎

Do you have a question about this? I see you are editing the tables at Julie Anne San Jose. -- John of Reading (talk) 09:37, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

October 12

Alex Karras

Alex Karras also appeared in the movie Victor Victoria. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.236.79.4 (talk) 05:48, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your suggestion. When you believe an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes. Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the edit this page link at the top.
The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes—they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills. New contributors are always welcome. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to). --Jayron32 05:55, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

internet

why my computer its not working on internet google???????????????? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.79.97.235 (talk) 11:10, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Can you be more clear and specific about your question? --Anbu121 (talk me) 11:13, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Question about citations

I am a community manager at an advertising agency, and I am currently tasked with creating a Wikipedia page for a large liquor brand. In filling out the history section of the page, it has occurred to me that most of the information we are including has come directly from a document that was provided by the brand. My question is, what would be the best way to cite this document? We have searched for more Wikipedia-friendly journal entries, newspaper articles etc, but the information is hard to come by. We have no reason to doubt the validity of the information they provided, we just want to make sure we are conforming to Wikipedia's standards. Could we host the .pdf elsewhere on the web and link to that? I've noticed several other brand pages linking to the history section of their homepage, is that acceptable?

Any help or advice would be much appreciated. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.46.24.66 (talk) 14:49, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Due to your extreme conflict of interest, you should not be creating an article on a brand which is your client. (Based on some of your more dubious edits of the past, is it correct that you work for Sid Lee?) I've left a more detailed warning on the talk page of this IP address. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:42, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

The criterion for inclusion of information is verifiability not truth. You may not reference unpublished sources (or sources which are unreliable, such as most blogs for example). You may reference a company's or person's own website for uncontroversial factual information, but in general all references should be to sources independent of the subject. --ColinFine (talk) 17:36, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Juan Jose Sicre's grave

Juan Jose Sicre may have died in Cleveland Ohio but his grave is in the St. Joseph of Carrollton Manor cemetery in Buckeystown, MD. His head stone reads: Juan Jose Sicre, Sculptor, 1898-1974. According to a biography he moved to Cleveland, Ohio in 1985. How could he have died in 1975 and then move to Cleveland?

Joe Liszka — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.192.198.240 (talk) 15:47, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

If the biography to which you refer is a reliable source as defined by Wikipedia, then feel free to change the information in the Juan José Sicre Wikipedia article yourself, giving an inline citation, since the reference currently used by that article is not Wiki-reliable. Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 16:07, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

I have added a ref from a book (cambridge university press) that says that he died in 1974. I am not sure which biography you are refering to. This biography says that it was his grandson Jorge Sicre who moved in 1985. --Anbu121 (talk me) 16:37, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Jaiama Nimikor

Jaiama Nimikoro is wrong. It should be Jaiama Nimikor. The secondary school mentioned is Jaiama Secondary School Not Jaiama Muslim — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.50.85.225 (talk) 16:22, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Both spellings (Nimokoro and Nimikor) seem to occur on the internet, and the (one) reference in the article Jaiama-Nimokoro spells it Nimokoro. If you have a reliable source which lists the other spelling, you are welcome to add it as an alternative spelling. ==ColinFine (talk) 17:44, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

I concur. This Flickr photographer claims to have lived there and recently gone back and names it "N'Jaiama Nimikoro". Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 17:51, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

October 13

science/non-equilibrium thermodynamics/ extended irreversible thermodynamics

On October 10, I have created a new page entitled " Extended irreversible thermodynamics" in the section " science/ non-equilibrium thermodynamics. However, when I write " extended irreversible thermodynamics" in the search box at the top of the page , I receive invariably the same answer that this subject has not been created yet. How to proceed to find the page that I have created ? Lebon-anthierens (talk) 15:00, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Can you be more precise as to where you created the article/draft? Your contribution history shows your message above as your only edit to Wikipedia. There is a brief mention of "Extended irreversible thermodynamics" at Non-equilibrium thermodynamics#Overview.--ukexpat (talk) 15:42, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

You can find the article by clicking " en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category non-equilibrium thermodynamics"

I don't know what you mean 'in the section " science/ non-equilibrium thermodynamics"'. Wikipedia does not have sections that pages live in. Where did you put it (i.e. what is the full name of the page). --ColinFine (talk) 21:55, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

The full name of the page is "Extended Irreversible Thermodynamics" which I would like to see published under the general thema " non-equilibrium thermodynamics"

Lebon-anthierens (talk) 15:01, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

There is no article at en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category non-equilibrium thermodynamics. Instead there is a category page at en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Non-equilibrium thermodynamics, or more simply at Category:Non-equilibrium thermodynamics. Note that the presence of the colon is significant. Also there isn't a page Extended Irreversible Thermodynamics; instead you (or the IP 87.65.200.199) tried to add the text intended for that page as text inside the category page. That text doesn't belong on the category page, so I have removed it, but if you want to start a new page you can do that, but before that please read Wikipedia:1st, and also WP:Referencing for beginners. - David Biddulph (talk) 00:53, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

October 11

Tyburn

The question I have is that I don't have a clue to edit an article. The issue is the entry with Tyburn. Under the notable people that were executed, one glaring entry was left out. Elizabeth Brownrigg was executed at Tyburn on 13 September 1767. There is a Wikipedia entry about Elizabeth Brownrigg and she deserves to be added to the Notables section, since she was notable enough to have her own Wikipedia entry. How do I go about correcting this glaring error? I tried, but it looked pretty messed up as I wasn't aware how to create the characters needed to add her to the list myself.

Thank you

Sonya Dickerson — Preceding unsigned comment added by Supermodelsonya (talk • contribs) 13:49, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

You were nearly right. I've re-added it, using the code:

| [[Elizabeth Brownrigg]]||align=right| 13 September 1767|| Murdered Mary Clifford, a domestic servant.

Your main problem was that you omitted the '|' at the start of the line, which says it's an entry in the table. You also included part, but not all, of the <small>...</small> tags, even though there wasn't any small text to add; and you misspelled 'align'.

I've also added a reference (which I got from Elizabeth Brownrigg, but as it stands that article has no in-line references at all, so it is not satisfactory. --ColinFine (talk) 17:03, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

October 14

"The" or "the"

I gather that there is a small tempest brewing over whether "the" should be capitalized before proper nouns: Is it the Beatles or The Beatles. I think that what should be done is to follow AP style (The Associated Press), and let the nameholder decide. For example, the flag on a particular newspaper is The New York Times. However, it is the Los Angeles Times. If you've ever heard athletes referring to their particular school, they always take care to call it The Ohio State University.

If the nameholder has not indicated a preference, I think lowercase "the" should be used. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wjmf (talk • contribs) 04:33, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

There is a whole page in the Manual of Style on the subject; see WP:THE. —teb728 t c 05:22, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

October 15

How to fix Disambiguation Needed

Hi-- Hoping someone can help me. On the right side of the page:

Tree Fu Tom

my name (Douglas Wood) is listed as a writer. This is correct, but after my name, it says "disambiguation needed" and the link isn't live. If you click on some of the other writers it takes you their pages, but this doesn't happen with mine. Perhaps this is because the page can't determine which Douglas Wood I am. (I'm the Douglas Wood with "writer" next to my name.)

Can someone provide me with instructions on how to fix this?

Thanks,

Doug Wood — Preceding unsigned comment added by Topanga Doug (talk • contribs) 06:50, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

I see that you've now fixed this. Well done! - David Biddulph (talk) 07:18, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

How do I responds to a message by a Wikipeida user?

Hey how do I respond to a message by a Wikipedia useer?--DragonKing22 (talk) 23:24, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

See Help:Using talk pages. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:12, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

October 16

Deletion

I created an Article names Association of Medical and Dental Students of India(AMDSI) which has now been deleted , even when many such articles are present on Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kb893 (talk • contribs) 04:11, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

The article was deleted because it did not assert the importance of the subject of the article. Instead of creating a new article in the main Wikipedia space, it is best for new users to go through the Wikipedia:Articles for creation process which will help you work through creating new articles which are compliant with Wikipedia standards. Also, please note, that not every single organization which happens to exist automatically qualifies for a Wikipedia article. See Wikipedia:Notability for some background. --Jayron32 04:57, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Editing vandalism

I am a new user. I recently edited an article titled "halal". I was surprised that the change occurred instantly and without any record that I have made a change. My change was innocuous enough but it could have been something outrageous and how would anybody know? Have I done things correctly? 121.217.123.53 (talk) 14:53, 15 October 2012 (UTC) Type51.

Yes, you have. There is a record: if you go to the article and pick "History" at the top, you will see the record of your change with the time and date, your user name, and the edit comment you gave. Also by picking on the "prev" link, you can see the difference displayed between the previous version and your version.

It is true that this policy also makes vandalism very easy; but most vandalism is reverted very quickly, either by bots (programs) or by editors who patrol for it. Occasionally vandalism gets through and stays for a long time. Patrollers also revert edits which were made in good faith but are inappropriate for one reason or another. --ColinFine (talk) 15:13, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict) You didn't, according to 121.217.123.53, but perhaps you did under another account. The answer is that (unless the article has been specifically protected) there is nothing to stop anyone making an erroneous or vandalistic (or unsourced) edit, but most articles are watched by a number of editors, so if a change is made which doesn't meet Wikipedia's requirements it will usually be reverted fairly quickly. If you are reading a Wikipedia article, you oughtn't to assume that everything in it is correct. You can check the article history to see whether any changes have been made recently (and thus not had time to be reverted if wrong). You ought also to check the references given for any item of information in Wikipedia; if it isn't verifiable by references to independent reliable sources, the information shouldn't be in Wikipedia. - David Biddulph (talk) 15:20, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

The most recent change to that article when I looked was by User:Type51. --ColinFine (talk) 17:49, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

This is the diff in question. The OP identifies as Type51 even though they are posting here as an IP. As ColinFine says, the edit was indeed made correctly (and with an excellent, informative edit summary for which a new editor should be commended). - Ka renjc 08:32, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Snarled up ball of similarities

I've inadvertently walked into a BIG mess and need help from a more experienced editor (and I apologize if this is not the best place to go for it, but I'm at my wit's end). There is a musician named Todd Albertson, "Todd", and a writer named Hallqvist Todd Albertson, Quist Albertson, "Quist". Quist wrote a book called The Gods of Business. Over a period of a few years, Todd's article has been back and forth between talking about the musician and the writer and currently refers to the musician. A new user is trying to create an article about Quist as Quist Albertson -- except that a lot of her references seem to refer to him as Todd. Quite a few of her references are either useless (404s) or not reliable sources (IMDB) or irrelevant (his high school alma mater). There are two more complications. One is that there are two different things titled by The Gods of Business, as you can see by the edit history of that article, and the title currently points to the book noted above. The other is that, personally, I'm not 100% convinced that Quist and/or his book are notable (the notability for the book seems to depend on sources that I am not sure are reliable) and my instinct is to take them both to AfD -- but I"m not going to do that until someone more experienced has a look at this Gordian knot. The new user is busily working away on Quist Albertson, with questionable utility but laudable enthusiasm. And I need to turn away from this for the moment and sign out. I think the talk page of Quist Albertson is the best way to understand my involvement -- can someone please help untangle this mess? Many thanks in advance for any advice anyone can offer and I apologize if this is less coherent than it should be. Ubelowme _U ^Me 20:11, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

OK, so Quist Albertson has now been speedily deleted by an admin on the grounds of G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion and G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion. Here's a link to the original deletion discussion; the article at that point was called "Todd Albertson", but the subject was the aforementioned Quist. Meanwhile Todd Albertson has itself been proposed for uncontroversial deletion on the grounds that the subject fails notability criteria. I can't see the former but would certainly agree with the latter; the sources do not constitute "significant coverage" and notability is not credibly demonstrated. If the prod template is removed and the article is not improved, AfD is the way to go next. - Ka renjc 08:27, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks to everyone concerned for their assistance with and attention to this matter. I don't intend to take any further active role. Ubelowme _U ^Me 19:37, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

edting accurately

I have made changes to the Alcohol and Gaming Commission of Ontario pages that reflect changes that occured well iover a year ago. The agency is no longer quasi-juridical...as that responsibility was removed from it on July 1, 2011. Also, the reporting relationship has changed..also last year. The agency now reports to the Ontario Ministry of the Attorney General. Please let me know how I can ensure that these changes, which are factual, remain on the page and are not auto-corrected by your auto-BOt? Eva M Innes (talk) 15:03, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

You'll need to make sure that your changes are verifiable by references to independent reliable sources (and independent means NOT the Commission's own website). See WP:Referencing for beginners. - David Biddulph (talk) 15:10, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

It also helps to give an edit summary, to explain the reason for your change. But references are more important. --ColinFine (talk) 15:18, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

I think the first thing to do is to find out why ClueBot reverted the edit - the edit summary indeed invites you to do that if you disagree. Having resolved that, there are a few minor issues worth mentioning. Firstly be careful lifting text form external websites as this may create copyright problems. Secondly Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, so really we want to see not just the current situation (arms length regulatory agency) but historical status (quasi-judicial agency) and the date and cause of the change.

Rich Farmbrough, 02:11, 19 October 2012 (UTC).

How to cite a book or newspaper article as a reference

Hello! I am having difficulty claiming notability for a subject I am writing an article on simple because the reviewer claims she cannot find online references when she Googles the name ... the subject I am writing about is mentioned in books & printed materials enough to comply with the guidelines for Wikipedia's famous musicians. Specifically, could someone tell me (or show me with an exact example) of how to include a cite within an article that will reference a printed source? I have looked up the templates, but they do not tell how to include within an article. I include the information for the printed sourced in separate sections, but the reviewer declines these, stating they are not "online resources" ... THANKS! Impromp2Music (talk) 14:45, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

See WP:Referencing for beginners, {{Cite book}} and {{cite news}}. The documentation pages for those templates explain their use. Note that online references are not required to establish notability, offline sources are perfectly OK but you must cite them with enough detail that anyone who wants to can find the source, say in a library, and verify what it says. WP:RS is also useful in determining what is and is not a reliable source. Hope this helps.--ukexpat (talk) 14:52, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, but this is the same standard explanation that I receive every time I ask this question. I know how to use the template and fill in the necessary information, I need to know to include it and insert it within my article. Where does it go? How can I cite it and have it show up in the "reference" section? Just simply putting the template information in a section, say, "Additional Reading" or "Articles" is not cutting it. The reviewer is not accepting this is a notable source for reference ... I need specifics. This is the template: {{cite book |title= |last= |first= |authorlink= |year= |publisher= |location= |isbn= |page= |pages= |accessdate=October 16, 2012 |url=}} ... now where does it go? Impromp2Music (talk) 17:25, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

It goes into the body of the text, right after the fact(s) which it is there to attest, but before the closing punctuation. In order to work, there must also be a section at the end of the article, headed

== References == and then on the line below that should be the template {{reflist}}

(If those are already present, don't create a new set.)--Orange Mike | Talk 18:16, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

AND you need to stuff the template between "ref tags" something like this...

..never actually played the piano.<ref>{{Cite book|title=Notable non-musicians}}</ref>  His mother said...

Rich Farmbrough, 02:15, 19 October 2012 (UTC).

October 17

Adding a name to existing text

My name is Muhammad Ijaz Arain and I have published two volumes of Arain Directory from Karachi. I wish to add my name among prominent Arains at en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arain. Please advise. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.185.212.22 (talk) 07:03, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

The list is for Arain's that have an article on the English Wikipedia. I would strongly advise that you not try to write an article about yourself. Someguy1221 (talk) 08:57, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

If you meet the criteria for notability on English Wikipedia, then there may be an article about you, and that list could include a link to that article. If you do not meet those criteria, then there should not be an article. But as Someguy says, you should in any case not write an article about yourself: if you examine the criteria, and have the references independent reliable sources that say so, I would advise you to make a request at WP:Articles for creation. --ColinFine (talk) 16:52, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

Links to website

Can I add links to my websiteBfaulk3712 (talk) 14:46, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Can you tell us which link you want to add to which article? All links added must strictly conform to the guideline Wikipedia:External links. Else, it would be considered as spam. --Anbu121 (talk me) 14:56, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

October 18

Logo Tambourin Viols-le-Fort

Hi Eugene,

It appears that you have deleted the logo of the tambourin club viols-le-fort on its wiki page. According to me, and as the president of this very club, I don't really understand why this logo should be under some copyright law. Excuse-me for being maybe naive but we are talking about an amateur sport and I might not have all the clues about what is a wikipedia policy. Having said that everybody can find the club's logo on the club's facebook page for exemple. Would you please let me know what we could have done wrong and help us find a way to have the logo back again ont the wikipage.

Many thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.127.173.168 (talk) 18:18, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

We could guide you better if you could mention which wiki page you are talking about. I could not find any page by the name 'Tambourin Viols-le-Fort' --Anbu121 (talk me) 18:25, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

To avoid accidentally infringing copyright, Wikipedia assumes that every image is copyright unless it is known to be otherwise: the amateur status of the club is completely irrelevant. In order to use an image, either it must be (plausibly) declared to be in the public domain; or the copyright holder must have explicitly released it under a suitable licence (which will permit its use for any purpose, commercial or otherwise); or its use must be allowed by Wikipedia's policy on non-free images. See WP:Uploading images for more information. --ColinFine (talk) 21:57, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

Peter Wilkinson Politician New Zealand

Add to the Wikipedia listing on Peter Ian Wilkinson MP Rodney, New Zealand, the following:

Peter Wilkinson was the half- brother of Politician Jim McLay (MP for Birkenhead and Deputy Prime Minister). Jim McLay succeeded Peter Wilkinson as Attorney General). They had the same mother Joyce McLay (nee Dee and Wilkinson). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.93.104.110 (talk) 19:49, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your suggestion. When you believe an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes. Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the edit this page link at the top.
The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes—they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills. New contributors are always welcome. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to).— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 19:59, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

October 19

Legson Kayira

Legson worked as a civil servant for the UK Home Office for over 20 years. He had married an English girl, Carol Lawson, whom he met in Cambridge and they had four children before their divorce. In 1996 he married Julie Robertson from Washington State, US, whom he had met previously in 1961 when he was a student at Skagit Valley College. He died from a massive brain hemmorhage on October 14, 2012 and is survived by his wife, Julie, his four children - Selena, Natasha, Rosamund and David, and eight grandchildren, plus four step-grandchildren.

Julie Kayira----- — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.149.205.217 (talk) 12:21, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for the information. I have copied it to his article's talk page. Rich Farmbrough, 13:44, 19 October 2012 (UTC).

Untitled

dateof birth---28th august 1928 at madras. native place Guntur;andhrapradesh. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.118.126.232 (talk) 13:20, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

^[who?]????

Two Questions

Hi! I am a new user on Wikipedia, and I have two questions. 1. How do I get to the Tearoom, and 2. How do I add something to the wanted article list? Thank you, B. Jakob T. (talk) 21:56, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

Here are your answers:

–– Anonymouse321 (talk • contribs) 22:04, 19 October 2012 (UTC) (do you recognize me?

)

October 20

I tried to contribute...

Hi,

I recently tried to contirbute to an article but was promptly told i was attempting to submit content for advertising a prootional purposes. I strongly believe i was only making an innocent addition that would have benefitted the current page and was in no way selfish or self-promotional. I think you should re-consider the additions I have made. If I have broken violated any ToC then please highlight these to me.

Regards,

365secretbeaches (talk) 11:25, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia and thank you for your intention to contribute. I would say that the warning message given to you was a little bit harsh. Please don't be discouraged by that. The content you added could have been made better in two aspects. One, it could have been worded without promotional adjectives such as 'remarkable' and 'formidable'. Second, Wikipedia requires reliable source. Blogs are not considered reliable. I highly encourage you to add the content again in a neutral tone and with a better source (book, newspaper, etc). Again thank you for contributing to Wikipedia and I hope you will continue to do so. --Anbu121 (talk me) 11:37, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

October 21

Molecular Reference Standards - additional titles

I would like to suggest the additional headings of 'Genetic Reference Standards' and 'Genomic Reference Standards' to the 'Molecular Reference Standards' page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molecular_reference_standards

To appear as: Molecular Reference Standards, Genetic Reference Standards and Genomic Reference Standards

(These terms are commonly used interchangeably).

Can I edit the main title myself, or does this need to be requested of the Wikipedia Administrators?

Many thanks. 212.219.216.54 (talk) 15:20, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

I would suggest not changing the title of the article, but instead having redirects from the alternative titles. Your best bet would be to suggest the alternative titles at Talk:Molecular reference standards, and give references to reliable sources to support your statement that these titles are commonly used interchangeably. - David Biddulph (talk) 16:56, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

type size

hello --- love wikipedia ! how can i increase the type size on my screen ( such as is possible with many, many web sites ) ? tks ! **** — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.76.129.97 (talk) 21:37, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

Try Ctrl++ for larger, Ctrl+- for smaller and Ctrl+0 for standard. If this doesn't work then which browser do you have? PrimeHunter (talk) 22:58, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

October 24

Adding text

Hi, I have added references and citations to text however I just wanted to double check that they were correct, can someone take a look? PropelaCL (talk) 00:32, 24 October 2012 (UTC) at the end.

Close. You needed to add a {{reflist}}; see what I did here. —teb728 t c 04:03, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

You could make the citations better by using citation templates like {{cite web}}. For example instead of http://www.idsa.org/content/content1/chris-lefteri%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%98ingredients%E2%80%99 use {{cite web|title=Chris Lefteri’s ‘Ingredients’|url=http://www.idsa.org/content/content1/chris-lefteri%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%98ingredients%E2%80%99|publisher=IDSA}} That will generate

"Chris Lefteri's 'Ingredients'". IDSA.

—teb728 t c 04:23, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

My IP is blocked. Am I allowed to change my IP to avoid that block?

My dynamic IP is part of a range that has been blocked. (Or banned? What's the difference?) But I haven't ever done anything to be blocked for - it was someone else. So if I connect to the Internet and get an IP in the blocked range and I allowed to just reconnect to the Internet (and thus get a new IP) to avoid the block? Or is this violating some wikipedia policy? I have tried asking for an unblock. People were friendly, polite, and helpful. The software and process was frustrating. I don't know how to insert this as a link. (I click the chain button above, I paste the url in the dialog, I select Wikipedia link, it says page does not exist.) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:178.98.42.237 THANK YOU for any help. --31.126.189.205 (talk) 21:19, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

The administrator who declined the unblock request on User talk:178.98.42.237, and explained why he had done so, did say that you ought to try using a different IP address outside the blocked range. The other option, of course, is to register an account. - David Biddulph (talk) 21:34, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

And if you need help with that, Wikipedia:Why create an account?.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 18:31, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Human Figure in Art

In the past two weeks I have jumped in to edit an article Model (art). Moving outward, I also edited the "parent" article Model (profession), and would naturally then move to "The Human Figure in Art", but find a confusing set of existing articles, none in good shape.

"Human Figure" redirects to Figure drawing which is ok, but hardly the only thing I might want to find. What about other media?

"Nudity in Art" redirects to Depictions of nudity which I find rather confusing, and posted the following on its Talk page:

It is unclear to me what this article is about, given the title and some of its content and connection to other articles. The WP definition of depiction is a technical one: the mapping of reality to a two dimensional picture plane, which generally excludes sculpture and live performance. The dictionary definition includes both rendering something as an image and in words.[3]

However the opening section and the page creation discussion below indicate that the subject is the nude in art (but not limited to the fine arts). The logical title should then be Nudity in Art, but that redirects here.
Then why is it only WPNudity rather than also WPArt?

And if it is nude in art, the ethnographic section is questionable unless vernacular art is taken to mean any photography, including those taken to record scientific facts.

The search on Figurative art is also confusing, since that article's content is mainly a gallery of fine art that has the human figure as its subject, but very little in the words, but what is there is contradictory. If the technical definition of figurative in art is connected to the meaning of figurative in literature, this is new to me. However, if figurative art means "representational but metaphorical" then why the gallery of human figures? Possible a namespace problem? Figurative Art in aesthetics, a branch of philosophy, but not in the actual practice of art? Only a few minutes on Google provides plenty of references for Figurative Art being synonymous with Human Figure in Art, which makes sense to me as an artist.

I would like to contribute to an article on the Human Figure in (Fine) Art, which does not exist by that title. If that would seem absurd given the two articles cited, I would like to know.

PS. Art nude is another mess, I would like to nominate it for deletion. FigureArtist (talk) 05:35, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

John Burke Sculptor 1946-2006. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.168.133.76 (talk) 13:03, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

The fact that nobody has replied here in several days suggests that there is nobody reading this page who has the knowledge and interest in working on this with you. Certainly I don't, though I salute you for wanting to work on this. You may find people who will work with you at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Visual arts. --ColinFine (talk) 09:59, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

October 23

Nemrut Stratovolcavo

Here is the new article about Nemrut Stratovolcavo (Turkey), Sincerely..... Yavuz Ozdemir a1,Ozgur Karaoglu b 2, Arif Umit Tolluoglu c3, NilgunGulec¸ a,* a Department of Geological Engineering, Middle East Technical University, 06531 Ankara, Turkey b Department of Geological Engineering, Dokuz Eylu¨l University, 35100 Izmir, Turkey c Department of Geological Engineering, Yu¨zu¨ncu¨YVl University, 65080 Van, Turke Volcanostratigraphy and petrogenesis of the Nemrut stratovolcano (East Anatolian High Plateau): The most recent post-collisional volcanism in Turkey - Chemical Geology 226 (2006) 189–211 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.5.92.95 (talk) 11:28, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

If you have information to add to the article Nemrut (volcano), please present it at the article's talk page. But a new scientific paper on a subject does not necessarily merit a mention in an article, unless it either adds new information about the subject (which should be summarised in the article) or meets one of the criteria in WP:EL. --ColinFine (talk) 18:08, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Can we insert an article about our company in Wikipedia?

Dear Sirs,

we just saw that in Wikipedia there is an article about The Lincoln Electric Company, leading manufacturer of welding equipment founded in 1895.

We are the company Cebora, smaller competitor of Lincoln, founded in 1954 and operating in almost 100 countries in the world, manufacturer of welding and plasma cutting equipment.

We are the leading European manufacturer of plasma cutting equipment and our plasma systems have been developed in cooperation with the University of Bologna (the oldest university in the world).

Are we entitled to add an artiocle about our company in Wikipedia or is there any rule of yours that does not allow it?

Many thanks in advance for your kind assistance and best regards

CEBORA S.p.A. Export Sales Department 85.33.62.162 (talk) 12:47, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia's notability criteria for companies are outlined at WP:CORP. If your company meets the requirements you shouldn't normally write the article yourself; see WP's guidance on conflict of interest. David Biddulph (talk) - 12:53, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Article on "english words of yiddish origin"

article omits bubela, zayda, sayan, etc 168.12.253.66 (talk) 18:38, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Apparently you are referring to List of English words of Yiddish origin. If you have reliable sources that state this, you can edit the article yourself.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 18:42, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Morton Gould photo

I am Morton Gould's daughter and would like to change the photo that's being used on his page. I've already edited the text but have a much better photo of him. Please advise as to how I can do this. Thanks for your attention to this. Abby```` — Preceding unsigned comment added by AbbyGB (talk • contribs) 20:16, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

See answer given to you at Wikipedia:Help_desk#Morton_Gould. Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 21:54, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Getting established

I have followed the procedures for submitting an article but apparently my page does not exist and my submitted text is shown differently to those of other contributors.

Can I please have some assistance in getting established as a Wikipedia contributor? Thank you.

Roger DESHON, Toowoomba, Queensland, Australia Insidivs Fvngvs (talk) 22:59, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia! I have left you some introductory links on your talk page. The text on your user page, User:Insidivs Fvngvs, was formatting strangely because you had indented each paragraph with some leading spaces. I have removed them.

However, that text is not suitable as a Wikipedia article as it stands. Wikipedia articles should only report on what has already been published in "reliable sources" such as books, journals and respected news outlets, and they must cite those sources so that readers can check them for themselves. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:43, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

The OP was probably also referring to his contribution to Talk:Richard III (play), and I had corrected his formatting errors there. - David Biddulph (talk) 07:05, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

October 25

Glasgow celtic goalkeeper Eamon Mc Mahon

Hi, I wish to give information about a Glasgow celtic goalkeeper in the 1950's

His name is Eamon Mc Mahon, he was from Lurgan, co. Armagh. He also played for Armagh and was in a famous all Ireland match also

regards.

D.B — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.8.69.223 (talk) 21:49, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Is there an article you wish to add this to? If you have reliable sources that state this, you can edit the article yourself.

If not, and he meets notability guidelines for athletes, you can request that the article be created.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 20:21, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

table on contents on a new page

How do you create the table on contents on a new page?184.147.32.236 (talk) 18:34, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

If there are enough headers and sub-headers to justify a table of contents, the software will automatically generate one. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:40, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

October 27

editing article being created

Hello,

I'm creating my first article and having difficulty retrieving it for editing. I created a subpage under Articles for Creation, when I open the page for editing the work I have done flashes up on screen then just disappears and I'm left with a blank screen as if I have to input from scratch.

Please advise.

Thank you. Linda.T.Lambert (talk) 23:07, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

That sounds like a browser problem. Special:Contributions/Linda.T.Lambert shows many of your edits are blanking a page. Which browser do you have? Does it have extensions? Can you try another browser or disabling extensions? PrimeHunter (talk) 00:06, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

You've apparently created separate drafts, or attempted drafts, of your article at four places so far: User:Linda.T.Lambert/sandbox, Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/rp, User_talk:Linda.T.Lambert and Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Raymond_Parfrey. Some of these you've blanked, others currently have content. I can't offer any advice on a potential browser problem, but I wonder whether some of the difficulty may be that you're creating new pages each time instead of returning to the existing one? To see a list of where you've been before, with clickable links to take you back there, click on "my contributions" at the top right of the page. - Ka renjc 17:21, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

October 26

Emilio de Gogorza

I am trying to contribute cited information to an article (Emilio De Gogorza) and I am getting this message: Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page, but the references will not show without a {{Reflist}} template or a <references /> tag; see the help page. I tried putting in references by copying and pasting the above:,<references /> and it still won't work. Trying to help by adding cites should not be so difficult....

LadyMart62

The <ref>s go in the text of the article where you want to refer from. You got that right on your first try. But on that try you didn't have a <references /> (or a {{reflist}} (they do the same)). In your second try you added a,<references /> but you added copies of the <ref>s after the;<references /> this caused a problem because the <references /> has to come after all the <ref>s. Someone else added a {{reflist}} in the right place; so it is almost right now. —teb728 t c 06:11, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

Please don't be discouraged. Adding citations can be fiddly but it's a very useful thing to do. Have you had a look at Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners? It's a reasonably user-friendly introduction to the process. - Ka renjc 16:58, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

User Page!

What a User Page Should contain? RB-AXP 17:03, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:User pages should help. - Ka renjc 17:22, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

manns or maans

the article is not comprehensive. Salaudi is a very prominent village of manns in ludhiana district. guru gobind singh baptised this village. Ali Singh and Mali Singh were prominent Jathedars who were with Baba Banda Bahadur in the BATTLE OF SIRHIND(CHAPPAR CHIRI). They attained martyrdom with him at Delhi. late Major JAWALA SINGH I.O . M . won three gallantry awards in NWFP,world war2 and J&K. His son is now a retired Major General.there are a few more viillages of Manns around KHANNA, sAMRALA and MORINDA. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.253.242.250 (talk) 07:59, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

Are you referring to the article Maan clan? You could discuss proposed improvements on the article's talk page or improve it yourself if you have reliable sources to support your edits. The article is unfortunately quite poorly written and referenced at present. - Ka renjc 18:11, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

Can i edit the page World Trade Center?

Can i edit the page World Trade Center? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Starship9000 (talk • contribs) 19:03, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

Technically speaking, yes, yes you can. That article is currently semi-protected to prevent vandalism, but you've been around at least a little while, so the semi-protection does not affect you.

Next question is, should you edit it? Well, if your edits might be controversial, discuss them on the talk/discussion page first. And if you're adding any new material, or changing statements of fact, be sure to include an inline citation to a reliable source that backs up what you add or change. More info about inline citations can be found at WP:REFB. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 19:18, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

Pictures

How do you change pictures on articles? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Js1018az (talk • contribs) 19:53, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

If the image you want to use is already uploaded to Wikipedia or Commons, then replace the existing image name in the article with the exact title of the replacement image. If it isn't already uploaded then you will have to do so, making sure that you name, describe and license it correctly, before it can be used in an article. See Wikipedia:Picture tutorial and Wikipedia:Uploading images. Please note that you shouldn't change images just for the sake of it; any changes should be made in order to improve the article. If there is any potential controversy over your proposed change you should discuss it on the article's talk page first. Wikipedia:Image use policy is a helpful link. - Ka renjc 20:23, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

October 30

Images (again)

How to put photos into wiki articles?Parnashree (talk) How can I edit semi-protected articles? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Parnashree (talk • contribs) 13:22, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

See the reply immediately above re images. To edit semiprot articles your account needs to be autoconfirmed.--ukexpat (talk) 13:45, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

Klek

Klek is a popular vacation spot for many Europeans including Germans, Swedes and others. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.186.163.130 (talk) 17:10, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

That's nice. How can we help you contribute to Wikipedia? --Orange Mike | Talk 19:09, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

Climbing the Quality Scale

I created an article and it was approved and classified as "Start-class". I have since improved it and I wonder: how can I apply to have it reviewed and possibly promoted to "C class"? --Peulle (talk) 18:28, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

Mike Webb

There is an error with regard to Mike Webb , he was a member of the Archigram Group but not the founder member .The group was founded by Peter Cook and David Greene whilst they were both working in the office of James Cubitt and partners on Gloucester Place in London ---- — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.166.58.25 (talk) 21:18, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

There are numerous published sources which disagree with you. Do you have a reference to published reliable sources which say that the founders were only those two, rather than the six usually listed (or the two plus Webb, as it was those three who published the first issue of Archigram)? - David Biddulph (talk) 18:15, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

... or perhaps you misread the article? Michael Webb (architect) says that he was a founding member of the Archigram Group, not the founding member. - David Biddulph (talk) 18:18, 31 October 2012 (UTC)