Wikipedia:New contributors' help page/Archive/2011/April

April 1

Help

Please answer on my talkpage What is the link to create a new artile?

Bobherry (talk) 01:17, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Your first article. Copied to User talk:Bobherry. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:47, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

wikimedia commons Categories

How do I move an uploaded image to a different category and delete a new category created via a typo? Hrftx (talk) 01:50, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

I guess you think of commons:File:44BD.jpg. Click the "Edit" tab, change the category name and save. That's it. Writing a non-existent category name doesn't actually create a category so there is no category to delete. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:43, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Text in one place, headline another

Hi. The draft text for a biographical article is on my user page where a Wiki editor could check it, but its headline (despite Article Wizard) has come up as Enter_your_new_article_name_here. I've already made three closely related but false pages to get the right headline (Barry M. Gough) over the draft, or to get the draft text onto a page with the right headline. (My user contributions page shows the lineup of attempts.) Before I try again to rename it or do anything other than tweaking the content, I'd better ask for help. If it's just a matter of being patient until someone can check things over, then I hope the draft article is findable online this time. It wasn't findable once before, despite editor Tkotc's excellent hunt. JaneFaber (talk) 04:22, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

I have replied at your talk page. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:15, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Inclusion of prominent havyaka names

Some of the prominent Havyaka personalities are to be included in the list to update.How can be included —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.141.22.247 (talk) 06:21, 1 April 2011 (UTC) Following are some of the prominent Havyaka Personalities to be included in the list: Dr.M.S.Thimmappa, Clinical Psychologist, Former Vice-Chancellor of Bangalore University, Dr.M.S.Vignesh, Professor and Head, Dept. of Sociology & Counseling, Univ. of Agri. Sciences, Bangalore. Well known therapist specialised in the Indian System of Counseling,awarded the title of dISTINGUISHED cOUNSELOR BY hIMACHAL PRRADESH AGRICULTURAL ANIVERSITY, Dr.M.V. Prakrithi, prominent Women Yakshagana artist and Ayurvedic Medical Practioner. Represented India in the Cultural Show at China. Dr. Giri Hegde, Speech Pathologist and kannada Novelist, Cal.State University, Fresno, USA —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.141.22.247 (talk) 06:30, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Hate to disagree but I do. I have amended the lead of the list to refer to notable individuals - that's the standard inclusion criterion for such lists. Otherwise the list will become unwieldy and there will be all sorts of arguments lively discussions about who should and should not be listed. So, I have also removed those individuals who were redlinked or had no link - if they are notable, create an article about them then add them to the list. – ukexpat (talk) 12:57, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

These sorts of lists of non-notable local people and schools plague Wikipedia's South Asian related articles. There was a recent discussion about this on Jimbo's talk page about a week ago. -- œ^™ 19:46, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

chishtis in gujarat india

dear sir im going thorough pages since many days,but unable to find the successor of hazarat khawaja nasiruddin chishti chiraghey dehlvi.im giving you the page of the material which you have given and lot of editing is to be done on the history of the great saint as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasiruddin_Chiragh_Dehlavi it is the original form wikipedia but needed editing as im the grandson of the succesor an dpresntly my elder cousin brother is holding the position.there fore i request you the correct the information about it im there to help you to write the papers on chishtism it is most famous sufi traditionj. im form ahmedabad gujrat india.my mail address is <personal information redacted> thnaks and best of regards chishti khubmiya naseerbagh <Address redacted> — Preceding unsigned comment added by Khubie (talk • contribs) 15:01, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

You request isn't very clear -- please explain the change that you want to make to the article and provide a reliable source that supports the proposed change. Without a reliable source, we cannot do anything. – ukexpat (talk) 18:30, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

April 3

Can I add a picture of a celebrity?

Can I add a picture of John Travolta to my article about the character Bolt who he provided the voice for? I have a picture of Travolta doing the voice acting from the movie, but it is a screenshot from the movie's extra features. I want to avoid copyright issues. Can I upload this picture of Travolta anyway, even though it exists nowhere else?

--Carlminez (talk) 21:15, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Probably not. The conditions under which you may use copyright images are very limited. See WP:NONFREE. --ColinFine (talk) 22:42, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

April 4

spelling in source language

Hi- are there guidelines for which template to use when spelling a page name in its original language? Specifically- which is correct:

A. Michal Snunit (Hebrew: מיכל סנונית)

or

B. Dorothea Krook-Gilead (Hebrew: דורותיאה קרוק-גלעד)

(please see source code) Thanks --Sreifa (talk) 09:57, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

The {{lang}} family of templates is preferred. See Template:Lang#Rationale. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:05, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Addition to references

add the following in the references Hinduism: A Holy Water Religion by Dr. V. Sankaran Nair —Preceding unsigned comment added by 111.92.12.246 (talk) 12:53, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

You will have to be more specific. Which article are you referring to? – ukexpat (talk) 17:20, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

April 5

alphZA

File:person.jpg — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michaelhans (talk • contribs) 06:14, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

File:Person.jpg (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Do you have a question? (I see that this is a good example of an image that needs renaming) -- John of Reading (talk) 07:09, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

posting an article as a referece

i would like to post this article in the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishinomaki,_Miyagi

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/8385087/Japan-earthquake-the-children-who-have-lost-their-parents.html

but the page's code seems complicated and i dont know how to insert this article as a reference.

it is a sad thing that had happened and i want this information to be made known to generations after.

appreciate it if you could help post this article as a reference in the page.

13:08, 5 April 2011 (UTC)13:08, 5 April 2011 (UTC)13:08, 5 April 2011 (UTC)13:08, 5 April 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spectre6888 (talk • contribs)

I have added the reference. – ukexpat (talk) 13:13, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

To Create a Draft or not to?

I'm new to wikipedia and want to edit the Minnesota History Center page. Since the MN History Center is such a public place, is it best to create a draft and have editors look it over before I try to submit the changes? Also, where does one create a draft (I cannot seem to find where to do it?) Thanks! Kris10z (talk) 20:15, 5 April 2011 (UTC)Kris10z

I would do this as a draft first. I have created a sandbox for you at User:Kris10z/Sandbox (and put a link to it on your user page) where you can experiment with Wikimarkup and draft your article. Don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions. – ukexpat (talk) 21:10, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

April 6

Years Active in Photo Boxes

Maybe a dumb question, but in photo boxes, "Years Active" indicates what? What year their page on Wiki was created, how long they've been doing something for a living, ??? I added it to a page I created and now I'm not sure what year I should have put in there.Bobbyandbeans (talk) 14:13, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

• Well, you added it to the page of an actor, so that would be how long he has been acting professionally.--E♴(talk) 14:45, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

So it is for their career? I need to make sure I'm understanding because there are other clients I'm creating/editing pages for. Thanks!Bobbyandbeans (talk) 14:49, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Yes, for their career. But please, before you go any further, you have a huge conflict of interest if you are creating/editing pages for your clients. You MUST read and follow the advice at WP:COI and WP:SPAM. While "editing for pay" is not prohibited, it usually conflicts with the principles of Wikipedia, in particular those relating to neutral point of view and not using Wikipedia for advertising or promotion (see also the essay at WP:PEW). I have left a welcome message on your talk page with a number of links to other useful pages to read. – ukexpat (talk) 15:22, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your concerns; I'll review the points but in all cases I do try to remain very neutral and even removed info from one client's page that was promotional and inappropriate and in another case, kept in unflattering but truthful info. I'm well aware that Wiki is not a personal website and have informed clients of that as well; I've even turned down assignments from some who want to control the info this way. Feel free to post anything on my talk page that you have other concerns about as I am still relatively new to this and do appreciate any help and feedback I can get.17:02, 6 April 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bobbyandbeans (talk • contribs)

question about translation

How can I translate a page from a foreign language? Thanks 79.10.141.111 (talk) 16:23, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Assuming you want to store the page in the English Wikipedia, see Wikipedia:Translation. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:59, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Adding a new section to an exsiting article

I have done lengthy research on the World Football League. I would like to add section featuring NFL players who jumped leagues. However, to make the list more digestable for the reader, I would need to create and entire new section in the article. How do I do that? Metalfan1976 (talk) 18:50, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

You asked the same question at the Help Desk where it has been answered! – ukexpat (talk) 18:53, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

April 7

what happens if you put wrong information —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.230.252.149 (talk) 21:27, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

It depends. If somebody notices it is wrong, they will probably remove it, or revert the change you made. If nobody notices, it might remain there for a long time.

Any information you insert is supposed to be supported by a reliable source, that you cite in the article: if you do not somebody is likely to at least tag the item as needing a citation, and maybe remove it.

As long as you act in good faith nobody will blame you for making a mistake. However, wikipedia is plagued with vandals who deliberately disrupt the encyclopaedia. When editors are seen to be vandalising, they are first warned, and if they continue, they get blocked. One of the ways to show people that you are not a vandal is to explain why you have made the changes you have made, either in the edit summary, or on the talk page. --ColinFine (talk) 22:09, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

April 8

unable to edit page

To whom it may concern,

I am unable to edit Miley Cyrus's page and the List of awards and nominations received by Miley Cyrus page.How come it's not letting me edit those pages?Also, when I'm editing the pages, when I click preview, it won't show what I edited on the preview page.How come this is happening?Thank you for reading this and I hope you can get to the bottom of this.Asianandy (talk) 03:38, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Hi, certain pages on Wikipedia are protected from editing from anonymous and newly created accounts; this is called page protection and is done to prevent casual vandalism. For more information, you can read this article Wikipedia:Protection_policy#semi. There are instructions there that will help you learn how the process works, and how to introduce material into protected articles. After you have become autoconfirmed (been on Wikipedia for four days and have made 10 edits) you will be able to edit these articles directly. Happy editing, and welcome! Seaphoto^Talk 03:44, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

The Fallacy and Historical Distortion called Uli Airport of AirStrip.

For long this falsehood has been sustained- that the Biafran airport was at Uli. The truth of the matter is that the said airport was at Amorka, a town next to Uli, from the Onitsha end.The relics of the airport are still there till date. In fact coupled with these is the Ojukwu bunker- an underground facility whose tourist value is being wasted even as I write. It high time this historical fallacy is put to an end. This was no airport at Uli. The two Biafran airports or airstrips were at Uga (in Agu-ata Local Government Area) and Amorka (Ihiala Local Government Area). This is the TRUTH and verifiable! All the noise about Uli airport is fiction and politics and can NEVER represent the fact! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.184.85.51 (talk) 12:55, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Do you refer to a specific Wikipedia article? The string "Uli Airport" does not occur in Wikipedia according to a search. Uli, Anambra says: "During the Biafran Civil War the Biafran Airport code named Annabel Airport was also located in a land strip at Umuchima village, Uli." Airports require a lot of space so they are often located outside cities but named after a nearby city. Amorka and Uli appear to be near eachother and if the wartime airport was usually referred to by its codename Annabel then there may not be an official city name for it. Do you have a reliable source? PrimeHunter (talk) 13:21, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Upload in English

Hi

I originally uploaded a new page in spanish and i now want to load it in english.

Do i have to redo it again in the english format — Preceding unsigned comment added by Penylane79 (talk • contribs) 18:51, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Yes. Each language's Wikipedia is a separate project, with its own rules and format. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:33, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

April 9

Kyle (given male name)

Reference is made to Battle of Sherramuir regards referring to kyle as skittles (9 Pins). This when clicked says no such page. It is because it should be Battle of Sherrifmuir where a reference is made to Robert Burns song about the battle where it is said that the opposing side was cut down like kyle pins. ie skittles. Please check by sighting page on Battle of Sherrifmuir —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.90.201.31 (talk) 10:40, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing this yourself. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:49, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Need help

I have written my first article but I am having problem posting it on wikipedia. It's asking for reference source. I wrote the article, I am the author, and I submitted it to the Newspaper to be published. It was published and now I am trying to post it on wikipedia but I am having problem in doing so. JolelineA — Preceding unsigned comment added by JoelineA (talk • contribs) 14:27, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

I've left notes on this user's page. For several months JoelineA has been a single-purpose account attempting to post an article which appears to be a copyright violation, as well as an unsourced editorial. Even after numerous deletions JoelineA seems unfamiliar with Wikipedia policies re: copyright infringement, reliable sources, and neutral content. Not to mention self-referencing--it's just not acceptable to copy one's own published editorial to Wikipedia. Thanks, 99.168.85.28 (talk) 14:34, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

April 10

Art reproduction

What does the "smoldering torch" in the margin of an engraving signify? What is the history behind the use of a "smoldering torch" to code a reproduction?

Thank you, Joe Sweeney —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.196.111.103 (talk) 03:43, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

This may take a bit of research, so I suggest you ask the question again at the Humanities reference desk. The volunteers there enjoy general knowledge questions and will do their best to find an answer. -- John of Reading (talk) 05:47, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

April 11

Barry Hughart - Background.

The backgound section of "Barry Hughart" ends with "lives in Tucson Arizona." BH would like to add "and may be reached at [email redacted]."

Yeah, I know that generates lots of spam etc, but still I have reasons enough to want it.

Barry Hughart —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.231.187.51 (talk) 21:28, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia does not show email addresses of people. Websites are shown and they may include contact information. The infobox at Barry Hughart links to barryhughart.org. Is that an official site? PrimeHunter (talk) 23:23, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Not only that but adding an e-mail address would be extremely promotional. – ukexpat (talk) 14:49, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

grammar

In the Wild Duck synopsis, the writer says: "...Hjalmar must LAY down ...". One doesn't LAY down. One LIES down. (One lays down an object, and in fact, can "lay oneself down") but without an object, the correct form is "lies" down.

Thank you. Tom Bloom

Indeed yes. I've fixed this one. Any time you find a spelling or grammar error, you are very welcome to fix it yourself. -- John of Reading (talk) 12:44, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

need to edit a section that isn't "editable"

Hello,

I need to edit a section that does not appear to be "editable". Our company was acquired by another company and the "name" of our company is now incorrect in the external links section. I do not wish to edit the actual web link itself which is correct - just the text that appears before it - but it doesn't seem I am able to do this. The result is that our "old" name appears which is not brand compliant. Thank you. 21:25, 11 April 2011 (UTC)~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michellematu (talk • contribs)

If you tell us the name of the article, we can help fix the problem. --Jayron32 21:36, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

April 12

Using newspaper article as a source

How is this done? I was able to locate (and purchase) a NY Times article containing all of the basic details (who what when where) of an event of note from 1973, but isn't that article itself all copyright? I'd like to adapt, edit and rewrite the facts into the Wikipedia page, but then there'd be no citation for all those details and facts because it isn't a freely-available web page.

I am a raw newbie at contributing - I just don't know what the "protocol" for this is. Feel free to answer via my talk page - I don't know if I'll be able to find this page/section again...

Thanks in advance.

Xaphanos (talk) 02:21, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Cross-posted to user's talk page Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! To source a news article, you can use {{Cite news}} (complicated) or simply paste the url of The New York Times abstract page within <ref> tags, like this: <ref>http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F10915F93454177A93CAAB178BD95F418685F9</ref>. So long as you do not copy and paste (violate copyright) the content of the news article, you are free to adapt it into a Wikipedia article, paraphrasing the original content. Goodvac (talk) 02:29, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

References are not required to be available on the web: it is enough that they are available to the general public. Almost all newspapers are available through libraries. --ColinFine (talk) 23:25, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

editing

how can i add to my wikipedia bio69.203.15.133 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 09:03, 12 April 2011 (UTC).

You go to the article talk page of the article about you. So if your name is Bill Jones, you would go to the page titled Talk:Bill Jones. Then provide information you think should be added to the article on the talk page. Note that this is an exception to being bold in editing, normally one of Wikipedia's core policy. The reason for this is that you have a conflict of interest, in that you are the subject of an article. For that reason, Wikipedia encourages caution when editing the article in question. --Jayron32 12:10, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Mudpuppy Page Edit Request

I am requesting permission to edit the "Mudpuppy" page. I'm a herpetologist who studied mudpuppy population dynamics and genetics for my masters degree. There are several factual errors on the page that I would like to fix, along with the addition of proper, peer reviewed citations. Additionally, the page lacks quite a bit of interesting and useful natural history information. I have not made many edits on Wikipedia, so I don't currently have permission to edit this page personally (it is semi-protected). Thank you! Ichellma (talk) 11:33, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

The page is not protected and you can fix the problems you have identified. Or if you feel more comfortable discussing the edits first the best place to discuss them is on the article's talk page, Talk:Mudpuppy. GB fan (talk) 11:45, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

To edit that page you need to be autoconfirmed. You've satisfied the 4 days, so you need to get up to 10 edits too. - David Biddulph (talk) 12:06, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

April 13

Need to replace an official company logo

Hello,

FUNimation Entertainment recently replaced our official company logo. The new logo [File:FunimationLogo.png] has been uploaded, but it needs to be replaced on this page - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funimation_Entertainment

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Funimation webmaster (talk • contribs) 16:58, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Can you provide a link to document that File:FunimationLogo.png is the new logo? I can only find the blue-red-white logo File:Funimation-logo.png at the official site http://www.navarre.com/funimation/. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:12, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Another account posted a link to Wikipedia:Help desk#New official company logo and the logo has been replaced in Funimation Entertainment. http://www.funimation.com/ still redirects to http://www.navarre.com/funimation/ with the old logo. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:47, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

April 14

Saving a draft before publishing

I want to create a new article, but I want to design it and save changes on it without it being public until completion. Is there a way for me to do this? Kidquatro4 (talk) 14:53, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

I am assuming that is what the sandbox is for correct? But does that mean the article must be made first? Kidquatro4 (talk) 14:54, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

The public sanbox is just to do editing tests, your edits will get overwritten if you use that. You can create your own sandbox, if you click on User:Kidquatro4/sandbox, and type something in and save it you will have a sandbox in your userspace that won't get overwritten. GB fan (talk) 15:04, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

It depends what you mean by "public". If you work in your user space as GB fan suggests, then your article won't show up in ordinary searches, and nobody will propose it for deletion unless it is a copyright violation or appears to be unredeemable advertising. People may still look at it, and they may contribute to it. (They could even vandalise it, though I suspect that doesn't happen to articles in user space very often). If you don't want anybody to see your work - or be able to change it - until you're ready, then you need to develop it outside Wikipedia. But working in userspace is the usual way to develop a new article. --ColinFine (talk) 19:27, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

moved page from user page, want user page back

I built up a page in my user page over several months and have just moved it to it's own page. I thought I would be able to go back to my user page, delete content and start working on a new page. But now my user page redirects to the new page I created. How do I get my user page back? Thanks.

Jdpitts (talk) 17:18, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Hi, and welcome to Wikipedia! I have blanked your userpage so it will not redirect. For your future reference, when you click on a page and it redirects to another page, right below the title of the article is the line "(Redirected from [article])". Click on [article] to return to the redirect, and you will be able to edit the page. For example, Einstein redirects to Albert Einstein, which has the line "(Redirected from Einstein)". Alternatively, you could add ?redirect=no to the end of the url of the redirect to go directly to the redirect page. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jdpitts?redirect=no would have taken you directly to your userpage. Goodvac (talk) 17:27, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Hi, Jd. This is one of the reasons why it is common to develop an article in a WP:subpage of your user page, rather than in the user page itself. --ColinFine (talk) 19:30, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

April 15

Searching for articles to edit

I just want to edit articles for grammar, spelling, and sentence structure. I don't want to change content. Is there a way I can search for articles flagged for grammar? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kimberleegk (talk • contribs) 02:28, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Bless you! Look for articles belong to Category:Articles needing cleanup, which is currently backlogged to December of 2006! --Orange Mike | Talk 02:36, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

How do I contact with a user?

How will I talk or communicate with a certain Wikipedia user - IN Wikipedia, not via mail or something. I am interested in sokme of his works, and am desperate to learn something from him. And how do I use my talk page? What's done there? Taslim Hossain (talk) 18:59, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

You can contact someone by using their talk page. Your talk page is at User talk:Taslim Hossain. To contact someone, just replace your username with theirs. That will take you to their talk page. TNXMan 19:04, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Biographies of living persons and reliable sources vs original research

I am planning to write a Wikipedia article which would constitute a biography of a living person (BLP) of a celebrity (musician). Because there is currently very little written biographical content available for use as a reference source, I am planning to personally interview this musician (by phone). I would think this would qualify as a reliable source of information. However, because it is not written, I am unsure if this will be acceptable or whether this would be viewed as original research.

Any advice on how to proceed would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

—Snpollack (talk) 23:21, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

I'm afraid it would not qualify: it would be original research, which is not allowed. If there is little published information about a person, then that person is by definition not presently notable, in the sense that Wikipedia uses the word. --ColinFine (talk) 23:27, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps I should qualify. This musician is fairly well-known among fans and jam band afficianados as a member of the current iteration of the Grateful Dead. Additionally, there are some sources (newspapers, print and online magazines, websites), that do mention her and some of her background and accomplishments, albeit fairly incomplete. However, I want to augment such information with that from an interview in order to develop a more comprehensive mini-biography. If it is still not acceptable for me to do this, can she post such self-information herself in her own Wikipedia article? Thanks. —Snpollack (talk) 00:07, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

No, writing about oneself on Wikipedia is also frowned upon. WP:AB is the policy that covers this.   ArcAngel   (talk) ) 00:40, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

If there are reliable independent sources which cover her (and are more than just gig listings or reviews) then you can write an article on her. Uncontroversial factual information about her could come from a non-independent source, such as her own website; but it must still be published. Anything more than that may be included only if it has been indendently published. --ColinFine (talk) 10:54, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

April 16

adding a reference to an existing article

Hello,

I would like to add some info to the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnaul#Transport

It is a link to a website that provides real time information on the public transit vehicles location: http://bus22.m2m-altai.ru/ It might be helpful for people planning on visiting the city. Would it be possible to add it to both Russian and English versions of the article?

Thank you.

209.6.48.176 (talk) 16:17, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

No. That is not the kind of information which belongs in an encyclopaedia, either as a reference or an external link. See WP:ELNO and WP:NOT. (This is advice for the English Wikipedia. The Russian Wikipedia may have different rules). --ColinFine (talk) 16:52, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

I want to create a page for my band

I want to create a page for my band but, it keeps on getting deleted from wekipedia. I am the manager of the band and the band is succefull enough to be put on here can anyone help me?

London Undead Band manager — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alex 9599 (talk • contribs) 16:23, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

If your band is notable by Wikipedia's criteria (which has a precise meaning), then an article may be created, but you should not be the one to create it: see WP:COI. If you can find the multiple independent reliable sources which discuss the band (not just mention or list it), put a request, with those references, at WP:RA.

If your purpose is publicising the band (as it probably is, if you are the manager) then Wikipedia is absolutely not the right place to do so. --ColinFine (talk) 16:57, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

April 17

The more detailed pages?

I am a big fan of Spongebob Squarepants and Adventure Time.I went to wikipedia in great boredom to be entertained.Instead become CRAZILY FOND of reading the facts about characters KNOWING I seem creepy.There was pages that where made just for the show/game.The backgrond was even specailized for the topic.Now that I am on a new computer,I lost the page and even worst,I CAN'T FIND IT!!!!!Where are they?They were pretty cool.So....umm.....Pattynatty (talk) 02:35, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

SpongeBob SquarePants#Wikis links to some SpongeBob wikis unrelated to Wikipedia but using the same MediaWiki software so they may look similar to Wikipedia. Perhaps it was one of those? PrimeHunter (talk) 02:48, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Copying a page from German Wikipedia

Hello, I´m new here and wondering if someone could help me; I wrote an article in German Wiki about my father; de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_Rauschhuber and now I would like to put it in the englisch Wiki too. I already had the text translated, I got it now in a text-file and would like to keep the pictures, the concept and everything, just replace the text. I was told in German Wiki that I wouldn´t need to "request an import" as I´m the creator of the article, and that creating the article in english and "interwiki-link" it would be fine. But how do I do that? Please help, I´m kind of helpless here... Greetz, Monika — Preceding unsigned comment added by Monika Nagel (talk • contribs) 14:01, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

The link Luis Rauschhuber should give you the edit link into which to paste your content. At the foot of the page, paste in [[de:Luis Rauschhuber]] as your inter-wiki link. - David Biddulph (talk) 14:18, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Thank you; I created the page in "Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Luis Rauschhuber" now; It looks alright, only the pictures are not there. That´s logical, as the sources (for example thumb|left|upright|Bildnis einer Tänzerin Terrakotta, lebensgroß Entstanden: ca. 1957) won´t work in english Wiki. How do I put the pictures in? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Monika Nagel (talk • contribs) 14:28, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

If you move the images to commons, they will be available to all Mediawiki projects (assuming that you can satisfy the licensing requirements of commons).

Please note that writing articles about people you are closely associated with is strongly discouraged on English Wikipedia: please read WP:conflict of interest to see how best to proceed.. --ColinFine (talk) 23:28, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

The COI-issue was already discussed in German Wikipedia; unfortunately, there is no other person not as close to the artist to write about him, so it´s either me or no article at all... I sincerely hope this won´t be a problem, as I submit only facts and no personal thoughts. The creations of Luis Rauschhuber deserve to be put out in the open. I read about the commons - well, I don´t want to use the commons as I don´t want to give the pictures to public use. Is there another possibility? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.57.73.57 (talk) 12:00, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

The sentence "The creations of Luis Rauschhuber deserve to be put out in the open" does seem to indicate that this might be a problem, as you may lack the requisite neutral point of view. --Orange Mike | Talk 13:12, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Please don´t misunderstand me; this is not my personal opinion, big part of the creations are already in churches, museums, "in the open" if that´s the right expression. For example all his collected documents, letters, diarys etc are currently in the Germanic National Museum of Nürnberg. There are books, exhibitions... I just want to include the internet in the circle. The fact that I´m his daughter is not the reason for me to think he´s an artist! How can I prove that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.57.73.57 (talk) 15:24, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Let me clarify a bit for you. That he holds a job doesn't mean that there is enough writing about him in the world for someone (anyone) to read and provide sources for a substantial and reasonable article at Wikipedia. We have no reason to doubt you that he has the job of "artist". There are millions of artists in the world. However, not every artist has had people write books, magazine articles, newspaper articles, etc. about their lives. All material in Wikipedia must be verifiable (i.e. anyone can find an outside source which can back up what is written in Wikipedia) See Wikipedia:Verifiability. This is a cornerstone policy of Wikipedia. When you say "there is no other person not as close to the artist to write about him, so it´s either me or no article at all" you are correct about that; however Wikipedia cannot accept original research, that is all information in every article must have been published elsewhere first. See Wikipedia:No original research. This is also a cornerstone policy of Wikipedia. If no one, before you tried to write the Wikipedia article, has ever tried to write a book about this artist, then "no article at all" is what we will have at Wikipedia. After all, I have no Wikipedia article about me, and that's entirely because no one has ever written books about me before. --Jayron32 16:16, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

I see your point. When I wrote that there is no other person to write the article, i didn´t mean that there is no other person writing about the man. Just nobody who would put it in Wikipedia. I don´t want to defend myself here. The facts and sources were checked and verified when the article in German Wiki was put in (2007 I think) and I think they have the same rules there as you do. And they were also aware of the fact that I´m related. All I want to do is translate it. In my opinion the question is: Would the information be put out and verified if I wasn´t related? Would it be easier if I just gave the material to someone else? M.N. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.57.71.157 (talk) 17:59, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Since I'm also German and know both "worlds" (engl. wiki and german wikipedia) I can say that the German article as it is won't survive an afd at the moemnt. The English Wikipedia has other rules for citing sources. There should normally one or more references for the content at the end of the paragraph for example. Although I'm a bit confused: your images (two) are tagged with cc-by-sa which is totally ok on commons. Or do I miss something? (on the other hand the third picture has problems!) mabdul 14:08, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Book tool

I really like the Create Book tool. I created a book an had it printed by Pedia Press. My colleagues were very impressed by this.I think it would be really useful to be able t create ebooks from Wikipedia articles and share them with colleagues an the wider community. However, to be able to do this it seems I have to make 10 contributions to Wikipedia. I don't understand why this has to be the case. Gathering together articles to make an ebook to share with others could be a contribution t the Wiipedia community. I don't feel I have the knowledge to contribute to any articles. Possibly if I was given a specific set of reference tasks I could do that. I think my skill is in bringing information and people together. I work as a librarian so that is what I do. How could I try to get the policy on creating and sharing ebooks modified? — Preceding unsigned comment added by OnDoverBeach (talk • contribs) 08:06, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Certain operations on Wikipedia are limited to "autoconfirmed" users, in order to mitigate the annoyance of vandals creating huge numbers of accounts and doing even more disruption with them. We call this confirmation "autoconfirmed", because in most cases it happens automatically once you reach four days and ten edits; but an administrator (I am not one) can give you the status manually. Now you have asked this, probably a passing administrator will do so.--ColinFine (talk) 09:52, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

April 18

Article will be deleted

Please help us. We got this message:

A major contributor to this article appears to have a close connection with its subject. It may require cleanup to comply with Wikipedia's content policies, particularly neutral point of view. Please discuss further on the talk page. (April 2011) • It needs sources or references that appear in third-party publications. Tagged since April 2011. • The notability of this article's subject is in question. If notability cannot be established, it may be listed for deletion or removed. Tagged since April 2011. • It may contain improper references to self-published sources. Tagged since April 2011.

Please let us know precisely what is not acceptable, what should be deleted or changed to be accepted.

Many thanks in advance for your kind help.

Klaus Zwior — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hammelmann Oelde (talk • contribs) 08:36, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Some suggested reading: WP:CORPNAME, WP:COI, WP:NPOV, WP:RS. Please also read the various useful links which were provided on your talk page a few days ago. - David Biddulph (talk) 08:51, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

The similartity between your user name Hammelmann Oelde (talk · contribs) and the subject of your first article Hammelmann Maschinenfabrik suggests that you may have some connection with that company. If that assumption is correct then it is very unlikely that Wikipedia guidelines will allow you to write or contribute to that article - see our conflict of interest guideline for more details. There are also concerns that the company does not meet our notability guideline for organisations and companies. For further details you could contact the editor who posted on your talk page, by posting a note on their talk page (User talk:Kudpung) in return. Gandalf61 (talk) 08:58, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

How to add things in user pages and how to make a user page

How do I make a user page? And how do I make a user page like this?: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Worm_That_Turned I mean about the one like there is a contents box in the top left corner, the blue background and the userboxes. I want to learn how to have those on my user page too. And I would like to learn how to add those things in my userpage in step-by-step and easy-to-follow instructions with some pictures. Like how to add the blue background, how to add the contents box in the top left corner and how to add some custom and customized userboxes. Thank you.

AquaNature (talk) 12:55, 18 April 2011 (UTC)AquaNature

• If you hit the edit button on the user page which you are looking at, you can see the wikisource. If you want to, you can copy that to your own user page and tailor it to your own requirements.
• The line <div style="background-color: #DCE8FF; padding: 0.5em; border: groove 4px navy; -moz-border-radius: 12px;"> gives the blue background.
• A contents list is added automatically if you include section headers.
• The userboxes are the lines that start {{user

- David Biddulph (talk) 14:25, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

The more advanced aspects of userpage editing can be found at Wikipedia:User page design center. --Jayron32 15:45, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

contributing

Why is it when i add anything to a profile it is deleted —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.251.195.149 (talk) 22:58, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

You haven't told us what you have tried adding where, so we can't answer in detail. But the fact that you talk about "a profile" may be part of the answer. Wikipedia doesn't have profiles. It has articles, which contain properly referenced encyclopaedic information about subjects.

When somebody removes some information that you have added, they ought to give some reason, either in the edit summary or on the article's talk page. If they do not, you are entitled to ask them to explain: their talk page is the best place for this. You can find out who removed your text, (and get a link to their talk page) by picking the 'history' tab at the top of the article. --ColinFine (talk) 23:33, 18 April 2011 (UTC) --ColinFine (talk) 23:33, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Dictionary entries (or not) and doubled up

Okay, as I'm being slowly sucked in to more and more editing I am encountering more and more stuff to which I have questions and, despite reading 25 WP: guidelines a day, can't always make the call.

Here's the rub: the other day I clicked "Random article" and got this - Apple of one's eye which appears to me to be a dictionary entry and over at Wiktionary you can indeed find - http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/apple_of_one%27s_eye.

So, when I came back to WP I typed apple of into the search box and saw - Apple of my eye, which is basically a more fleshed out version of the first article I mentioned.

So, firstly, do either of these articles merit a place on WP? And if so, why? And if not, what should I do/have done? I read WP:SPEEDY and they seem to qualify as "dictionary entries" that exist on Wiktionary, (although the second version contains a lot of citations and etymological stuff) but as I am new I would like a bit of guidance and your feedback, thanks.

Captain Screebo (talk) 21:05, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

WP:DICDEF is usually taken to mean that Wikipedia entries should not merely be a dictionary definition of a word or phrase, but insofar as there is enough information in the world to write a suitable encyclopedia article about a word or phrase, then it is a perfectly suitable subject for an article. Wikipedia has a halfway decent article on the word Fuck for example. However, there should NOT be two articles on the same subject; what you will need to do is to merge one into the other. WP:MERGE contains information on initiating that move; usually one starts a merge discussion at the target (final destination of both terms) article, then after ample time for people to comment (usually a week or so) if there are no objections, you perform the merge. --Jayron32 21:14, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the rapid reply, I took a look at WP:DICDEF where it clearly states "Sometimes an article really is a mis-placed stub dictionary article, that discusses the etymology, translations, usage, inflections, multiple distinct meanings, synonyms, antonyms, homophones, spelling, pronunciation, and so forth of a word or an idiomatic phrase." So I have checked back to the article Apple of my eye (i.e. the better written one) and it is nothing more than this. Please take a look but I feel that these two dictionary articles are really candidates for deletion. Although it would be nice to be able to merge the WP etymology info into the Wiktionary article. Captain Screebo (talk) 21:55, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Hey, if you feel that the two articles are candidates for deletion, you could nominate them for deletion at WP:AFD. There's no shame in doing so... --Jayron32 21:58, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

At the very least the two Wikipedia articles should be merged. – ukexpat (talk) 16:21, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

April 19

Hemiacetals

Because someone did not know what they were doing, they deleted a good chunk of the page on hemiacetal can someone reset it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.143.53.21 (talk) 23:37, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

 Done. --Jayron32 00:12, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

April 20

editing

hey so i was wondering how i can edit a few of the articles ive read since i have OCD i look at typagraphical errors which i want to change to keep myself sane how do i edit if i'm not allowed to edit???Moynanjames (talk) 01:19, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

There's no reason I can see why you can't edit. The posting of this query was itself an edit. --Orange Mike | Talk 02:13, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Not to be facetious or anything but typagraphical is a typo. Don't forget there's always Wiktionary to help when editing articles. Good luck. Captain Screebo (talk) 02:32, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

It's possible Moynanjames tried to edit a semi-protected page. In that case, click "View Source" at the top of the page, then "Submit an edit request" in the lower right, then follow the instructions there. 114.74.190.84 (talk) 11:48, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Loading new university logo to wikipedia page

Hello,

We have a new logo that we would like to load to the wikipedia page about our university. I have an auto confirmed account but have not made 10 edits to wikipedia. How would I go about swapping out our old logo with our new one?

File:MULogo display-rgb.png

20:49, 19 April 2011 (UTC)20:49, 19 April 2011 (UTC)~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Muweb (talk • contribs)

We have manually confirmed your account which gives you all of the rights of a user who has made 10+ edits and 4 days old. Try again now, just make sure you add source and copyright information as otherwise your image may be deleted. Jamietw (talk) 07:27, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

removing the 'outdated' boxes at top of page

I have edited the 'celador' page but the boxes at the top of the page saying it is outdated are stil there - how do i remove them? Rachel Josephson (talk) 07:56, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

You've asked this same question at the help desk and it's been addressed there. Please don't post the same message in different places, as this may lead to duplication of work, wasting volunteers' time. Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 11:16, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Question regarding style for lists and heading entries

Hello,

My question is about a change that I would like to make to an entry.

The topic I would like to link is Beta_Israel.
I would like to insert the link in the Disambiguation page here.

I notice that most headings have more than one sub-heading / topic linked and I would assume that to be the default case if it were not for the inclusion of a single entry under the first level heading of 'Finance'.
So, would it be improper for me to create a first level heading for Jewish ethnic divisions? (not necessarily linking the heading to the topic per se... I decided that this may be a 'proper' heading title to place the Beta Israel link under.) Or, should I place the link to Beta_Israel under the 'Miscellaneous' heading?
Please note that I neither practice Judaism nor am I ethnically Jewish (or, rather I am not aware of my ethnic heritage) and I do not wish to presume that the topic of Beta_Israel should / should not be placed under a distinct sub-heading on the Beta_(disambiguation) page.

Thanks in advance for any guidance on this,
E. — Preceding unsigned comment added by EtherealMonkey (talk • contribs) 17:52, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

I think the miscellaneous section would be more suitable. --E♴(talk) 23:38, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Thank you e2eamon! I apologize for not making this reply before (I presume that this reply is not necessary, but I appreciate your time still...)
Anyway, the edit has been made.

April 21

how do you add a picture to an article?

how do you add a picture to an article? right now, I am trying to improve the article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_EVO_3D and have found a picture of the phone in question, but being relitivily new to editing, i have no idea how to add it. some advice would be helpful. thank you

71.37.129.60 (talk) 00:09, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Try reading Wikipedia:Uploading images for information on how to upload an image to Wikipedia and Wikipedia:Picture tutorial for adding pictures which are already uploaded to an article. Make certain you only upload images of pictures that you have created wholly yourself. Wikipedia has a strict image use policy. There are exceptions to the basic rule, but if this is your first upload its probably unwise to try to work out how those exceptions work. However, Wikipedia gladly and willingly accepts images which you have created and are willing to license for proper use at Wikipedia. --Jayron32 02:41, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

David Siqueiros, Photographer

Hello, I am adding some Brooks Insitute of Photogaphy graduates to wiki starting with the peson in the subject field. After i saved the article I cannot find it anymore in "my contributions" section. Can you tell me why? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Photogs (talk • contribs) 16:54, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

If that is the case, you may have only thought you saved the article, but instead did not, perhaps you mistook the "preview" button for the "save" button. Also, given your desire to create new articles, please read Wikipedia:Your first article which has some tips for new users who wish to create articles. --Jayron32 17:01, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

David Alfaro Siqueiros? – ukexpat (talk) 12:42, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Vandalism report

I'm trying to report vandalism of the wikipedia page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_Yezhov I clicked on the photo links and the Russian Language page is also vandalized. http://be-x-old.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C%D1%96%D0%BA%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B9_%D0%AF%D0%B6%D0%BE%D1%9E

The photograph of Yezhov has Barack Obama's face photoshopped in.

This page may have an accurate image of Yezhov, but I am not knowledgeable enough to both make the decision and to change all the wikipedia articles.

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.cyberussr.com/rus/yezhov/ye-can1-m.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.cyberussr.com/rus/yezhov.html&h=236&w=199&sz=41&tbnid=rivd2g-S9amIyM:&tbnh=109&tbnw=92&prev=/search%3Fq%3DNikolai%2BEzhov%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=Nikolai+Ezhov&usg=__TStB8wMlWXVNkFVlvlDTz0T9qjs=&sa=X&ei=DKCvTYmsJY_6sAO9veSSAw&ved=0CCYQ9QEwBw

If someone more knowledgeable and more familiar with editing Wikipedia articles they might look at this page: http://www.scribd.com/doc/39853499/Stalin-s-Loyal-Executioner-People-s-Commissar-Nikolai-Ezhov-1895-1940 Another source of reliable information is Robert Conquest's The Great Terror

(I donate! Wikipedia's great) Thanks, Will Nettles — Preceding unsigned comment added by WillN2 (talk • contribs) 03:27, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Are you sure the image has been vandalized with an image of Obama, and the similarity in appearence is not just coincidental? The image in question, File:Ezhov.PNG, was uploaded on April 7, 2007, before Barack Obama was a major national figure and thus highly unlikely to be the target of a sneaky vandalism. I admit the picture bears a passing likeness to the current U.S. President, but its quite possible that Mr. Yezhov just looked like that. Sometimes people just look similar... --Jayron32 04:11, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Actually your link above is to the Belarussian Wikipedia, but the Russian does have the same image, and so does the Bulgarian - and the Bulgarian has another photo of him as a younger man. It is believably the same man. --ColinFine (talk) 08:21, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Vandalisum

Hello,

I keep having to update the article 'The Point, Eastleigh' as it is continually being vandalized by the user 'keithhouse'

I am getting feed up with him removing valuable and sourced information on this article.

How can I report this vandalisum.??

Many Thanks

Sids Revenge (talk) 21:12, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

WP:AIAV is for reporting vandalism, but you should do that after you have first warned the vandal for a couple of times (unless it's a very obvious vandalism case of course). You could at first try talking to him and ask to stop. DARTH SIDIOUS 2 ^(Contact) 21:16, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Take a look at the edits, Darth; this is a content dispute, and "Sid" is a reference to one of the contentions that this account keeps inserting into the article (sourced to blogs and personal websites) and the other account keeps removing. This is not a vandalism issue, it's an edit war. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:20, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

@Sids Revenge: This is not vandalism. What this is, is a dispute between you and the other named editor. The way to solve a dispute is to discuss the matter with them in a civil and courteous manner, making your case why you are correct and they are not, and to do so in a way that doesn't belittle them or accuse them of wrongdoing. If that doesn't advance your cause, you should seek outside help by asking for a third opinion at WP:3O. Finally, the best solution is to hold out the possibility of being incorrect yourself. I'm not saying that you are incorrect, I am merely recommending that if you allow yourself the possibility of being incorrect, it may solve the problem as well. --Jayron32 21:28, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

It is not an edit war. The other user removes reams of my text. Dates,sourced data, costings, facts and references. If it was the odd line then fine but they remove whole chunks of text that are verified and sourced. Sids Revenge (talk) 21:32, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

You could try to give reliable sources and citations when adding your info, then it won't be removed by anyone, if the source pages are considered reliable that is. DARTH SIDIOUS 2 ^(Contact) 21:38, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Darth. Sids Revenge (talk) 21:41, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Darth actually gave you bad advice; providing reliable sources for information is a necessary but not sufficient condition for adding information to a Wikipedia article. In other words, yes you need a reliable source, but that does not trump the need to convince people that the information you are adding is relevent to the article. Reliable sources are not a magic spell that protects a nugget of information from ever being removed. Things still must be discussed and agreed upon. It will certainly help to have a reliable source, but there are any number of other reasons why one would object to a piece of information being added to an article. Lots of things are true and verifiable and still not necessarily needed in a Wikipedia article. --Jayron32 21:46, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Of course, it all depends on the article itself. There may be different reasons for reverting some info, but reliable sources to prove things would certainly help, if it's about how factual the text is. And as far as I can see, none of the conflicting users here have provided reasons why reverting/adding info, and a discussion could be started on the talk page of the article, for example, to find out those reasons for opposing and supporting this information in question, and then discuss. DARTH SIDIOUS 2 ^(Contact) 22:01, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Of course, in this case you are 100% correct. In this case it appears the OP and his counterpart have engaged in little bilateral discussion, which means theres nothing for anyone else to do. Even so, discussion is the #1 way to get what you want. The #2 way to get what you want is to be willing to not get what you want. --Jayron32 23:39, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

The article at present has not one single usable reference. (Links to the top level of a newspaper site are useless as citations). Anybody is therefore entitled to remove information from the article, as it is unreferenced: that is not vandalism. As Jayron says, if the material is provided with proper references it may or may not be appropriate to include in the article, but the process for determining this is a discussion on the talk page (or following dispute resolution procedures if that becomes necessary), not edit warring - or name-calling. --ColinFine (talk) 23:33, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

My article won't show up in search results

My article, John Schaeffer (environmentalist), does not show up when i search for "John Schaeffer". The article has been up for three days. Do i need to take any steps to make it show up in search results? Thank you.

Hot taters (talk) 23:30, 21 April 2011 (UTC)sean

No. Just be patient. It's there. --ColinFine (talk) 23:36, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

April 22

Posting animal photos.

How do I post animal photos that I've taken? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Frederk21 (talk • contribs) 01:31, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Go to Commons:First steps/Upload form. From there you can upload images to Commons, which is where the majority of the photos on Wikipedia are stored. --E♴(talk) 03:33, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Paolo Soleri Amphitheater, Santa Fe, New Mexico

I have submitted my first article and I have found that it has been flagged for quick deletion due to a copyright issue. All of the content however, including the graphic content is original to me. Please help.

Trout7000 (talk) 21:00, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

• The text of the article is exactly the same as this website. If you wrote that page as well, see Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials. If you did not, then the article is a copyright violation and must be removed. --E♴(talk) 21:45, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

April 23

Redirect request: [[ ]]

rte —Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.167.220.116 (talk) 20:08, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Do you have a question or request? PrimeHunter (talk) 22:01, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

April 24

Making a minute edit on a semi-protected article Elizabeth Taylor

I made the u in BUtterfield into a lower case but it keeps coming back the same even after I'd previewed & saved it. Is the article that protected from such a minute editing? Pjt48 (talk) 02:19, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Yes and no! If your account is not autoconfirmed or you are logged out then yes, you would be prevented from editing a semi-protected article. However, as your account is far more than 4 days old with far more than 10 edits, you are autoconfirmed, so you should be able to edit it. Did you get an error message when you saved? Are you positive you clicked on "save"? -- PhantomSteve.alt/talk\^{[alternative account of Phantomsteve]} 02:27, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

That's because you are introducing an inaccuracy into the article, and being reverted. The name of the movie was BUtterfield 8, not Butterfield 8: it's a old-style telephone exchange prefix, like "PEnnsylvania 6-5000"! --Orange Mike | Talk 02:31, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Joining -- Signing up -- how to do it?

I am trying to join the skeptic forum or area on Wiki but cannot figure out how to tell you about myself. There is no area visible in which to type. 174.54.195.213 (talk) 02:26, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

You can't join projects if you don't have an account. --Orange Mike | Talk 02:32, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Editing and getting a link to show up in blue.

I edited an actors' bio and would like to know how to get the name of the show he guested on to show up in blue as a link? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.98.51.231 (talk) 03:34, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

A link will only be blue if there is an article with that name. To create a new article, you need to create an account. Incidentally, if you wanted to create an article, it needs to meet Wikipedia's notability criteria (see here) and be referenced at reliable sources which are independent of the subject. -- PhantomSteve.alt/talk\^{[alternative account of Phantomsteve]} 03:44, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Looking at your edit, you mentioned that Hugh Laurie guest-starred in "MI-5". MI-5 (TV series) leads to Spooks - "MI-5" is the title used in the US for "Spooks", so your information is actually redundant! -- PhantomSteve.alt/talk\^{[alternative account of Phantomsteve]} 03:53, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Editing tables

Hi, Can someone help me regarding tables, I'd like to edit a table in an article, but I don't know how to do it, can anyone help me?Dr T DG Smith (talk) 14:13, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Hi, don't forget to create a title for your subject, your request was just tagged on to another discussion. I would suggest looking at Help:Wikitable and also Help:Table depending on the complexity of what you want to do. If you still need help, come back and say so. Captain Screebo (talk) 15:21, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

April 25

Grease

I made a recent change to the article on the musical Grease. How to I add a footnote to reference the article where the info came from? How do I move up or change the # of the other footnotes because the info I am adding is toward the front of the article?

Original productions and Broadway

The show's original, grittier 1971 incarnation has been described as either a musical from the start[3] or a play with incidental music.[4] In either case, it was first staged under the name Grease Lightning at the original location of the Kingston Mines in the Lincoln Park neighborhood of Chicago. The script was based on Jim Jacobs' experience at William Taft High School.

In a April 2011 writer Jim Jacobs finally said Sandy's character was based on Jeanie Kozemczak.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grease_%28musical%29 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.3.68.81 (talk) 18:58, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Immediately after the sentence you added, add this magic: <ref>Where the information came from</ref>. The software will convert this to a footnote and will take care of the re-numbering. See WP:INCITE for a more complete description. -- John of Reading (talk) 19:17, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

I've found the source and added it to your sentence. -- John of Reading (talk) 20:51, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

April 26

street lyfe

I have a question consent a person who is very reach in brain and poor by the most hardest way of live how such a person can fine good surprise by contacting your service a father and motherless someone desperate of ever fine good luck i can sing very well dance very well do very thing very well but a lost by found chance to prove all of my talent i am twenty two years and please ask if i cant fine a job i have no school level of deplome but my head is full of high imagination and rap music my only consolation and movies imagination it my only dream and i am being lost in it to a way that i can never find the way of turn back if really some need some thing like me then for sure i am the best in the world for now please help me but i believe it will be very dificull to reach me i am just trying miracle if possible thank you my name Harrison che bye. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.202.194.46 (talk) 18:47, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

This page is for asking questions about using and editing Wikipedia, an online encyclopedia. I'm sorry, but we don't do miracles here. -- John of Reading (talk) 18:53, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

April 27

On saving topics within Wikipedia

Is there a way to save topics that I find interesting within Wikipedia? I mean a folder or bookmark page -- something like that? And, Why is this blueboxed?Pdos123 (talk) 02:14, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

You also asked this question at the Help desk, where it has been answered. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:08, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Use WP:Categories that will give you articles about the same topic. mabdul 18:52, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Oh or if you want to watch the articles you found use WP:watchlist - if to save these pages (readoly) on your computer, use mhtml or use the pdf tool on the left side under toolbox. mabdul 18:54, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

How do I make my page available for viewing to other users?

Is it possible to make my page viewable to other users? I am working on a project with some others who will be reviewing and providing input.Xcbusn (talk) 04:55, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

What do you mean by "your page"? Every edit you have made anywhere in Wikipedia is visible to everybody, but if it is not in the main namespace (article space) it may not be indexed. If you are creating a new article, it is recommended to create it as a subpage of your user page; then anybody can see it to review (and edit) it, but it will not normally be found by a general search. See WP:YFA. --ColinFine (talk) 06:58, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

If you mean Guardian Force-Micro Heroes, you'll see a warning on your talk page. - David Biddulph (talk) 17:40, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

locating saved subpage

I just created a subpage for creating an article. I did save my text before logging out. When i logged back in, i couldn't find it. Please help. Char smith (talk) 16:49, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

The easiest way to locate your page is to look at your contributions. You can see the subpage you created there. TNXMan 16:54, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

You probably ought to read WP:COI, about editing on subjects with which you have a close connection. - David Biddulph (talk) 17:36, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Or other formulated the page you search is at User:Char smith/Children's Craniofacial Association - but as mentioned it is not referenced and maybe you shouldn't create the page even if it is good. mabdul 18:48, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

when will a new page I created and posted go live?

The American String Quartet (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Hello! I edited and saved a new page today, "The American String Quartet" about the classical music ensemble American String Quartet. When will this page go "live"? I've checked online several times but do not yet see it, nor could I find a definitive time for new pages to be launched in the generag questions section. Thank you. Green2011 (talk) 17:22, 27 April 2011 (UTC)Green2011

The article you created, The American String Quartet, is live. When it will show up in google or other search engines are governed by those providers. Wikipedia does not have any control other them. There is a major problem with the article, it does not have any references that are independant of the quartet. To show that the quartet is notable references to reliable sources that are independant of the quartet must be added. If that is not done there is a possibility that the article will be nominated for deletion. GB fan (talk) 17:31, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

The article is a very close paraphrase of material from the quartet's website, and is therefore at risk of being deleted as a copyright violation. -- John of Reading (talk) 17:45, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Is already deleted... mabdul 18:40, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Editing tables

I'd like to edit the Rugby player Nick Evans' wiki page. There is a table on the right of huis page detailing his rugby career and club statistics, however it is 3 years out of date, I would like to update it but do not know how to edit that part of his page. Any tips? Or might someone else who knows what they are doing like to edit it?

Thanks Charlie. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.43.132.142 (talk) 18:15, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Use the edit tab at the top of the page. - David Biddulph (talk) 20:13, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

But please make sure any information you insert is referenced to a reliable source (even if the information you are replacing is not so referenced!). --ColinFine (talk) 22:43, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Photo

I have read all the pages on how to add a photo to my user page, but I still can not figure it out. How can I add a photo to my user page? Dombalia (talk) 19:25, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

For what? We are here not at facebook... mabdul 20:02, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

I need to add a picture of Sister Sara Butler to my user page to give in a presentation. I am unclear of how to actually get it on my user page, i am almost positive I uploaded it. Dombalia (talk) 20:10, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

You have uploaded it to File:Sister Sara Butler Picture.jpg, but I have marked it for speedy deletion because it is a copyright violation. You may not add copyright material to Wikipedia (with certain very narrow exceptions).

If the picture were permitted, you could add it to a page by [[File:Sister Sara Butler Picture.jpg]]. There is no specific rule against adding a picture to a user page, but it is a rather odd thing to do: your user page is supposed to relate to your work on Wikipedia, not be a general webhost. --ColinFine (talk) 22:57, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

April 28

Blue question

why is the sky blue? 70.136.153.110 (talk) WERDNA

You can read about this in the article Rayleigh scattering. -- John of Reading (talk) 09:59, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Haydn cello concerto

i would like someone in the wikipedia staff to update an article due to the new founded knowledge that i have discovered regarding a most interesting subject. Concerning Joseph Haydn's cello concerto in c major 3rd movement i just want to say that he is very witty and if you would but take a moment to listen to it... youtube Haydn cello concerto in c major 3rd movment haydn is very witty —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.136.153.110 (talk) 02:14, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Your opinion that the concerto is "witty" does not count for much at Wikipedia, I'm afraid, as that would be original research. Wikipedia articles should summarise information that has already been published in reliable sources such as books, newspapers and such like. -- John of Reading (talk) 09:59, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Article on user page

I saved a new article to my user page however it cannot be seen by other people. How do i make allow other people to see it before i publish it on wikipedia. Mig1168 (talk) 02:49, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

May I take the link? Jamietw (talk) 07:04, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

User:Mig1168/Kenneth R. Himes

The page "So you made a userspace draft" contains the information you need. After a quick look, I see that you've summarised his life and work, but you have not shown that other people have written about him or his publications. This is a requirement for a Wikipedia article; see the notability guidelines for articles about people. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:08, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Wiki Pages supposedly saved to "Book" vanish when session is over!

hello, i love using the new "add page to book" feature, but everytime i log off and back on, all my pages and books are gone--like they never existed.

i've spent hours adding hundreds of wikipedia pages from my browsers bookmarks to my wikipedia book(s), before deleting the bookmarks for organization. now both are gone.

i am using Firefox 4 for Mac OSX 10.6.7 « Life Imitates Art » (talk) 06:47, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

I have replied at the Help desk; here. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:05, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Do I have to be a native speaker to create new article in Swahili language?

Do I have to be a native speaker to create new article in Swahili language?

Looking forward to your reply Piotr M PL (talk) 09:51, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

No you do not have to be a native speaker to create a new article in Swahili as long as you can speak Swahili well enough to be able to write an understandable article. Just please ensure that you use the correct Wikipedia for the language that you want to write in. So please use the Swahili Wikipedia. Hope this helps, Jamietw (talk) 10:19, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Would you not mind editting some original information

Dear Madame/Sir I have just visisted the Wikipedia page, and found something wrong or lacking of references So I like to add more something inside the references. Enclosed here are some original references below. Ngo, V.T. (2008) Two new cave–dwelling species of Cyrtodactylus Gray, 1827 (Squamata: Gekkonidae) from Southwestern Vietnam. Zootaxa, 1909, 37–51. Ngo, V.T. (2011) Cyrtodactylus martini, another new karst-dwelling Cyrtodactylus Gray, 1827 (Squamata: Gekkonidae) from Northwestern Vietnam. Zootaxa, 2834, 33–46. Ngo, V.T. & Bauer, A.M. (2008) Descriptions of two new species of Cyrtodactylus Gray, 1827 (Squamata: Gekkonidae) endemic to southern Vietnam. Zootaxa, 1715, 27–42. Ngo, V.T. & Chan, K.O. (2010) A new species of Cyrtodactylus Gray, 1826 (Squamata: Gekkonidae) from Khanh Hoa province, Southern Vietnam. Zootaxa, 2504, 47–60. Ngo, V.T. & Grismer, L. L. (2010) A new Karst dwelling of Cyrtodactylus (Squamata: Gekkonidae) from Son La province, Northwestern Vietnam. Hamadryad 35(1), 84–95. Ngo, V.T. & Pauwels, O.S.G. (2010) A new cave–dwelling species of Cyrtodactylus Gray, 1827 (Squamata: Gekkonidae) from Khammouane Province, southern Laos. Zootaxa, 2730, 44–56. Ngo, V. T., Grismer, L. L. & Grismer, J. L. (2008) A new endemic cave dwelling species of Cyrtodactylus Gray, 1827 (Squamata: Gekkonidae) in Kien Giang Biosphere Reserve, Southwestern Vietnam. Zootaxa, 1967, 63–72. Ngo, V. T., Grismer, L. L. & Grismer, J. L. (2010) A new species of Cyrtodactylus Gray, 1827 (Squamata: Gekkonidae) in Phu Quoc National Park, Kien Giang Biosphere Reserve, Southern Vietnam. Zootaxa, 2604, 37–51. Would you not mind editting again. Cheers,

Ngo Van Tri —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.234.144.96 (talk) 15:20, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

You haven't told us which article, though I guess it is Cyrtodactylus. You are welcome to edit the article yourself; or if you do not feel you can do so, the article's talk page is the best place to post comments like yours.

Note though that citations in Wikipedia are generally supposed to be used to provide a source for particular facts or claims in an article, not as background reading. An article may have a "further reading" section: see WP:Further reading. --ColinFine (talk) 23:32, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

April 29

Men of War: Assault Squad

Okay I'm trying to figure out how to get the sub article Men of war: Assault squad, on the Men of war page to be be linked to men of war assault squad page. Cause currently when someone searches on Google or wikipedia with the colon in the name it goes to Men of war, when I want it to go to Men of war: assault squad article. Also I wanted to change the name to the Men of war Assault squad article to Men of War: Assault squad (With a colon)

How do I link the MOWAS away from MOW is what I'm asking. Please reply on my Talk page or here. Thanks.

Ossius (talk) 00:58, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

I have moved Men of war assault squad to Men of War: Assault Squad. See Help:Redirect#Creating and editing redirects for how to edit a redirect another time. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:52, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Untitled post

Resolved

["Joc-Joc" Bolante] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.190.3.2 (talk) 01:49, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Fertilizer Fund scam (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

I see from the history of this article that you have since managed to format the piped link. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:21, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Adding internal link

I am looking at adding a link to a category being http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Suburbs_of_the_Sunshine_Coast,_Queensland Is this possible Category:Suburbs_of_the_Sunshine_Coast |List of Sunshine Coast Suburbs does not work —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dickd (talk • contribs) 06:10, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

To make a link to a category you have to stick in an extra colon at the beginning, just before the word "Category". For example [[:Category:Suburbs of the Sunshine Coast, Queensland]] renders as Category:Suburbs of the Sunshine Coast, Queensland. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:29, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Why can I not edit certain pages.

On the 29/04/11 I was trying to edit the Prince William page and Catherine page, but I could not change it because it said I was a newcomer. How long will this last? Do I have to edit more pages? Please Help ADZNUDZ15 (talk) 14:22, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

I assume you mean Wedding of Prince William, Duke of Cambridge, and Catherine Middleton. It is semiprotected so you must be autoconfirmed to edit it. You should have become autoconfirmed after this edit three hours ago. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:43, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Can Mr. Credible please contact me?

Mr. Credible:

I am not familiar with the details of how Wikipedia editing works, nor with how to reach you.

I see you deleted edits I made to the Jan Masaryk page. I wanted to let the world know that Jan Masaryk's World War II BBC broadcasts, long out of print, are now again available as a Plunkett Lake Press eBook (http://www.plunkettlakepress.com/speakingtomycountry.aspx), with a Foreword by Madeleine Albright. How does one do this?

Assuming you see this message, I have no clue where to see your answer... especially since it says in red to NOT post one's email address here.

Patrick Mehr Patrick Mehr (talk) 14:43, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

I see you have found User talk:Mr. Credible. Mr. Credible has replied there. The correct procedure would have been to click the "New section" tab at the top. Mr. Credible fixed it by moving your post to the bottom and add a section heading. You can now click "edit" next to the section heading to discuss further. See more at Help:Using talk pages. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:00, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

move article from userspace

I am a new and unconfirmed user. How do i get my article moved from my user space to live article space? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Char smith (talk • contribs) 15:55, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

User:Char smith/Children's Craniofacial Association

A simple way is to post at one of the help desks, as you have done here. Unfortunately your draft article is not suitable for Wikipedia for at least two reasons. One is that the only reference is a link to the organisation's own website; there is nothing to show that other people have written about the organisation, which is a requirement for a Wikipedia article - see WP:ORG. Another is that the article includes many sentences copied directly from the organisation's website, where they are labelled "Copyright © 2000 - 2010 Children's Craniofacial Association. All rights reserved." The draft article is therefore likely to be deleted as a copyright violation. -- John of Reading (talk) 17:15, 29 April 2011 (UTC)