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September 22

the CAPTCHA instructions

Okay so when I attempt to add a reference I need to solve a CAPTCHA, fair enough: the page explains I'm trying to add an external link.

But just now I added the {{Photo requested}} template to Talk:S. R. Crown Hall. Still the same message despite no external links in sight.

Please change the captcha-explaining message to say something along the lines of "you're trying to add an external link or a template" (my emphasis).

Btw, there were no additional context provided at Special:Captcha/help.

PS. If you want to reply something like "actually that template includes code that allow external links" (or something, that's just my speculation) please understand that I understand the underlying engine caught something in the template code. That is, I'm not looking so much for a reply/explanation here, I want to ask you to change what IP editors see when they're asked to solve captchas. (Unfortunately I couldn't immediately discern which special page contains this text, but I'm confident you'll figure it out)

TL;DR: Please change the message accompanying "you must enter this captcha" to not solely discuss external links, since it apparently appears in other cases too.

Thank you. 84.217.39.2 (talk) 10:21, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

If you want to edit some articles or upload things, it's best to sign up for an account. This avoids all of the stuff with CAPTCHAs that IP editors dislike.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 10:31, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

The message is MediaWiki:Captcha-addurl. It doesn't know whether the link was added by a template but that's probably a small minority of cases. The message is not shown to autoconfirmed users, meaning accounts which are at least four days old and have at least ten edits. Many new users probably don't know what templates are so it may just cause confusion if the message mentions templates. There are also rare scenarios where the user didn't even add a template. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:52, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. First off, I am not complaining in any way. I'm talking about a message that's shown to IP editors. Suggesting I log in is not relevant.

What is relevant is the supplied page. Thank you for that. I have made an edit request at the link. Do feel free to phrase this in a better or more accurate way if you feel that would be appropriate. I avoided the mention of templates as you suggested. The important part, I think we agree, is for the message to not categorically claim you have added an external link when, in fact, this might not be the case. Telling IP editors they must solve a captcha because they have added external links when they haven't, that's what's confusing. Regards 84.217.39.2 (talk) 16:10, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

Page created is not shown

Hello i am a new Wiki Creator, i have recently created a page and have had it published, its been like almost 2 weeks but still there is no sign of it shown when searched for, what do i have to do for this, is there any errors on my side ? Do i have to rectify something? Please let me know soon asap.. Thank You, Eagerly awating your reply !!!1 HarmonyHubber (talk) 13:31, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

@HarmonyHubber: Your page is in your sandbox, which isn't indexed by search engines like Google. I strongly suggest you get it reviewed by an AfC reviewer, which you can do by putting {{subst:submit}} at the top of the page. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 13:33, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

HarmonyHubber, you were given good (but optimistic) advice by Tenryuu. Instead of following it, you moved it direct to main space. It's not fit for mainspace:

• It cites no sources (though it does list some).
• The sources it lists are just URLs, with no bibliographic information (name of author, name of publication, date of publication, etc.)
• I doubt that the sources listed are enough to establish that Mishra is notable in Wikipedia's idiosyncratic sense, even once they're cited properly. The first one listed doesn't even mention him.

I have moved it to draft space at Draft:Rahul Mishra (musician), to allow you to improve it until it's good enough to be accepted as an article. Maproom (talk) 22:12, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

This editor had already created Draft:Rahul Mishra and submitted it to AFC so I made this page a redirect to the other draft page. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:41, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

OP is now blocked as "Promotion / advertising-only account: blatant self-promotion". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:34, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

Should I Create Article About : Vivek Verma

I have many references like his personal portfolio, social media accounts. mrvivekverma.com MrVivekVerma (talk) 15:52, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

No, unless this individual (who appears to be you) has significant coverage from secondary sources (i.e. not related to the subject) under WP:Notability (people), they don't need an article. Even if they do, you in particular still really shouldn't under our conflict of interest guidelines, as either the subject, or someone working on their behalf. Social media isn't a reliable source for generating notability for Wikipedia's purposes. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 16:00, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

but he is popular through his startup Zianaka. Zianaka is a Software Development company based in Lucknow, India MrVivekVerma (talk) 16:44, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

I noticed you created the page as your user page, implying that you are this individual. You should, under no circumstance, create a page about yourself in this manner (user pages should be primarily about Wikipedia activities, not promoting yourself). You also had no sources, and the article was deleted under WP:CSD.

If you would like to have your own article on Wikipedia, you can request it to be made, however first you really should establish what makes you notable. Being "popular" means nothing if you haven't done anything or aren't a social phenomenon; if you'd use the page to promote your business, it's a conflict of interest. A quick web query for "Zianaka" in search of news coverage results in nothing, so the company is simply not notable as it is.

Don't let this discourage you from editing Wikipedia otherwise, though! We welcome most constructive contributions cited to reliable sources. Just remember that Wikipedia is not a web host, it's an encyclopedia that should cover encyclopedic material, not a business directory or place to promote products or services. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 16:50, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

How I can request for my own articles MrVivekVerma (talk) 16:53, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

Your best bet is to go on about your life and career as if Wikipedia did not exist. If you truly merit a Wikipedia article, someone will eventually write about you. Also be aware that having a Wikipedia article about yourself is not necessarily a good thing. 331dot (talk) 16:57, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

The brief answer is you cannot: Wikipedia is not a "webhost", and does not exist to host whatever thing any person may decide they would like to make available on the Internet. Please read Wikipedia:Autobiography. I see you already have a website of your own, and that's great! Write about yourself on there. You may wish to look into using CMS software, for creating and maintaining a more complex personal website. (You can even if you want install and run your very own copy of the software Wikipedia uses, though it is complex and targeted at use for large projects such as Wikipedia itself; I would personally recommend other, less-complex software for a personal site.) --Slowking Man (talk) 18:49, 22 September 2024 (UTC)