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July 13

Edit counter

Is their a way, in preferences, to display my current edit count somewhere that I can easily see it? Maybe up there on the the tool bar. Barring that, what about some sort of edit counter on my user or talk page that is automated. I'd just like to be able to easily see my current edit count when I log in. It'd be even cooler if it distinguished article edits from project page edits, but that's probably asking too much. Ditch ∝ 00:04, 13 July 2012 (UTC)e

I thought that a template for this would exist for sure but I've searched and didn't find one. Well, if nobody else provides a more targeted answer, maybe you'd find it useful to display something like {{Sp-contributions-footer}} on your user or user talk page instead.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:17, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

You can click "My preferences" on any page to see the field "Number of edits". Isn't that sufficient? There is no wiki code to display the current updated number. I suspect this is for efficiency reasons. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:35, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Recover account without password and without access to email

I would like to recover a wikpedia account but I cannot remember my password and I also cannot remember the password for the email account to which the account was assigned. But I remember the name of the wikipedia account and the name of the e-mail account. What can I do to recover this account? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.58.197.60 (talk) 00:11, 14 July 2012(UTC)

Help:Logging in#What if I forget the password? says you will have to create a new account under a different username. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:27, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

My understanding is that it may be possible to recover an account in such a situation, but it is a tedious process and you will need to convince a number of editors with very advanced permissions to help you. If you really want to go down that road, I think your journey starts with a request at Wikipedia:Bureaucrats' noticeboard. If your not terribly attached to your old account, PrimeHunter's advice is definitely the way to go. Monty₈₄₅ 02:02, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Help with college infobox

I'm trying to add File:Marshillcollegelogo.png, which I just uploaded, to the article for Mars Hill College. I've done this a bunch of times already, but this time the college has a NRHP sub-infobox or whatever you want to call it, and I'm having a difficult time adding the logo, which I want to go right before the NRHP info starts like on a regular university infobox, without messing anything up. I attempted to add a |image thing above where the NHRP template begins, but that messes everything up. Can anyone help, I have no idea what I'm doing. DavidSSabb (talk) 00:29, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Template:Infobox NRHP#Embedding suggests to place it in the last displayed parameter of another infobox. {{Infobox university}} shows a logo parameter. Is [1] OK? PrimeHunter (talk) 00:46, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Yes, that is what intended. Thank you very much :) DavidSSabb (talk) 15:50, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

How do I reference a living source interviewed for a page?

How do I reference a living source for a page. My grand uncle and his father, my great grandfather both have pages that I find horribly inaccurate and badly edited. I have living references both my mother and my grandmother. However, I don't know how to correctly reference them in the articles. Please advise.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azizul_Haque_%28educator%29

Thank you :) Sally Siemagirl (talk) 00:59, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

The short answer is that you can't. Sources must be verifiable. You conducting an interview would be considered original research. See WP:V and WP:OR for the applicable policies. Although, anything that is not backed up by a reliable source (see WP:RS) may be deleted. Dismas|^(talk) 01:38, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

To expand what Dismas has said: if there is information in the article which is not referenced to a reliable source, you may remove it. You may not remove information which is referenced to a reliable source, even if you think it is wrong. You should not add any information unless it is referenced to a reliable source; and because of your conflict of interest, it would be best if you do not add any information to the article, but discuss on the article's talk page what information you would like to see added. --ColinFine (talk) 11:05, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

NCIS episode 10

When is episode scheduled to be on air? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.148.241.236 (talk) 03:42, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

This page is for asking questions about Wikipedia. Questions like yours belong on the reference desk, but according to the article at NCIS (TV series), season 10 dates have not been announced. RudolfRed (talk) 04:15, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

This is the encyclopedia Wikipedia. If you refer to episode 10 of one of the previous seasons on a television station with reruns or delayed airing then you can try asking at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Entertainment. You will have to tell which station it is. We have articles about thousands of stations. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:09, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

epguides

Can be epguides be used as a good source for production codes on List of Awake episodes. Here, it says it is okay, just like to make sure. TBrandley 04:33, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

You could try asking at WP:RSN. I tried searching the archives, but I didn't really find anything. - Purplewowies (talk) 04:42, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Facebook

greetings:

I am a new user. My question is this: can I share an article or picture from Wikipedia on Facebook...like as part of a status update? If not, I am assuming it is a copyright issue? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kwains (talk • contribs) 05:10, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia doesn't have a short-cut "share" button for Facebook, but you can share a link to a Wikipedia article or image file in a status update in the same way that you share a link to any other site. Find the page you want to share and highlight its URL in your browser window. Use copy and paste to place that URL in your status update box, and save. - Karenjc 08:25, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Sharebox is a script that reorders your toolbox. It adds new buttons that make it easier to mail, print or share an article on Facebook or another linksharing service. You must have an account to add Sharebox to the sidebar. See User:TheDJ/Sharebox for more information. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 09:54, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Generally, you can reuse any material from Wikipedia for any purpose, as long as you attribute it. For details, see WP:Reusing Wikipedia content. --ColinFine (talk) 11:07, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

America: Freedom to Fascism

on arron russoes america freedom to fascism it seems you are giving your opinion to the reader and as this is not an opinion site i would ask that the page be cleaned up and only give the facts of the film and not opinions as is on the page. thank you for your time — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.63.163.231 (talk) 05:59, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Like many articles on controversial subjects, this one has a history of claims and counter-claims of bias. The best place to take your concerns is the article's talk page, where you can discuss the wording that concerns you and the references that support it (if any), and try to reach consensus on a neutral, factual version. - Karenjc 08:10, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Need help at FFU!

Hi, an IP requested an upload of an very big file, but sadly Commons always breaks the uploading — Anybody want to help? More information at Wikipedia:FFU#Barack Obama and Google+. Regards, mabdul 10:07, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Re-reviewing an article

How do I get someone to re-review an article I have just re-written in an attempt to make it more neutral and less of an advertisement? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Martinascapin (talk • contribs) 10:21, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Telling us what article it is and providing a link to it would be a good idea. Roger (talk) 11:22, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Page Rebecca Rust (American cellist) deleted

Unfortunately the page of the American cellist Rebecca Rust has been deleted. As one of the reasons it was mentioned, that the article only talked about her concerts. That is simply not true. Her great achievements were to re-discover unknown compositions by well known composes such as Villa Lobos, Georges Enesco, Robert Kahn, Hans Gal, Donald Francis Tovey, and record them on CD which are now publicly available for the first time. Many composers dedicated compositions to her, such as Otmar Macha, Jan Novak, Jan Koetsier, Harald Genzmer, Karl Michael Komma, Max Stern and others. Most of these composers are listed in Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.255.41.44 (talk) 11:39, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

I can't find a record of such an article being deleted, so I don't know what the reasons were. But very often, the reason for articles being deleted is that the article does not establish that the subject is notable. This does not mean or imply that the subject is not important or significant: it means that the article does not establish, by reference to reliable sources that the subject has already been written about in reliable places. Sometimes this will be because the subject really has not yet been so discussed; often it will be because those who created the article have not understood the importance of citations in Wikipedia and have not found such references. --ColinFine (talk) 12:54, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

According to the deletion log, the article about her was tagged as needing reliable sources for three years. There was plenty of time to supply sources to demonstrate her notability. Please see WP:MUSIC for the notability standards of musicians. If you'd like to recreate the article with sources, you can. Though you'd have to create an account first. Please see WP:YFA for a start. Dismas|^(talk) 12:52, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Any tool for an admin to delete pages en masse?

Hey guys, is there any tool that you know of using which pages can be deleted en masse? I am an admin on sa.wikipedia and I have this backlog that I just can't clear; it takes quite a while to delete pages one by one. Does anyone know how I can delete all these pages at one go? Lynch7 11:44, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

There is no bulk delete tool for the problem you have. Nuke is only usable in limited circumstances. Probably the best tool is AWB. It can't delete en masse but it does provide a much faster mechanism than performing the delete via the MediaWiki interface. QU ^TalkQu 19:50, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

contacts

trying to get contacts of the person who organised for the TAZAMA group which accommodated in White Sun hotel Kariokoo. Time range, May ending and Beginning of June JMSG — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.191.92.83 (talk) 11:53, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

This helpdesk is for questions about using and editing Wikipedia. If the article Tazama Pipeline does not help (and I suspect it won't), you might find somebody on the Wikipedia reference desk who has an idea. --ColinFine (talk) 12:57, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Article disappeared

What happened to Goldie Harvey when I moved it to User:Flava4life/Goldie Harvey? The history of each (Goldie Harvey, userspace draft) doesn't show anything weird. Ryan Vesey Review me! 14:04, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

I don't know what went wrong but a purge fixed it. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:08, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. Ryan Vesey Review me! 14:09, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Eh. I re-userfied it at the same time. Anyway, everything looks good now. ~Amatulić (talk) 14:15, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

So, here's an issue, the re-userfied version is different from the one the editor started. I don't know how big of an issue it is, but that would make this version a recreation of an article deleted through AFD. Ryan Vesey Review me! 14:25, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Category links

What namespace are Categories in? I thought they were in their own namespace that could be linked like [[Category:People from Warren, Ohio]], but I just learned that Category wikilinks need a : in front, like this: [[:Category:People from Warren, Ohio]]. What does the leading : do Categories need them but other links like WP and User and Talk do not? RudolfRed (talk) 14:35, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

When you're categorizing an article—i.e., adding a category at the bottom of the edit window—you just use [[Category:People from Warren, Ohio]]. When you're mentioning a category link elsewhere (on this page, for instance), you use the colon ([[:Category:People from Warren, Ohio]]) so that the page doesn't actually get added to the category. Unlike the nowiki tags, the colon preserves a link to the category page without categorizing the page the link is on. Deor (talk) 14:58, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

A similar situation exists for templates. If you want to link to a template you can put {{tl|flagicon|USA}} or use [[Template:Flagicon]]. But if you just use the template markup by itself, it will come out looking like . Dismas|^(talk) 15:56, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/John de Ruiter

Dear Wikipedia, Thank you for your information regarding submitting the article. I really want to get this right and I am glad to have your assistance. I have addressed the non-neutral sentences and several primary sources by removing them. Can you also please help me with the following points: 1. I have found many reliable secondary sources to be negative, whereas the positive secondary sources are more from web articles and websites secondary sources and not so much from preferred secondary sources. Therefore, if I were to cite from these negative sources only, the article would have an overwhelming negative slant. How do I deal with this? 2. In addition, most of the reliable secondary sources I have found are copies on websites. I have been unable to find the original article on the journal or publishers website. Therefore, even though their origin is a reliable secondary source, how do I deal with these sources since they exist only as a copy on a third-party website, and remain open to alteration. 3. You instructed me not use Peacock phrases but one of the phrases quoted was from an article that was actually negative to the subject matter. I thought it was good to include both the negative point of the article and show what an opposing viewpoint from a professional in the field in question. I am unclear as to why this would be considered a positive slant if it was to counterbalance the negativity. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Planktonium (talk • contribs) 14:36, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

You've already asked this question above (under heading #Lcg article - I guess that you added it without a new heading, so it looked as if it was appended to that question) and got some replies. --ColinFine (talk) 17:44, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

whitespace

Is there an editing trick to remove large amounts of whitespace created when there are numerous, relevant pictures for a relatively small section?

For instance, in the Amber article, there is a large whitespace between the contents box and the following "History and etymology" section", which is caused by numerous pictures in the lead section. It would be nice if the sections following the lead could be brought up, without disturbing the current layout of the pictures, which are well-presented. Many thanks! 78.26 (talk) 15:21, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

What browser are you using? I see nothing unusual in either Safari or Firefox. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 16:46, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Does bypassing your browsers cache help? -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 16:58, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, it's a IE8 thing. I usually edit on Firefox and/or Chrome, where it displays fine. However, there are times where I'm in locations where there is no choice of browser. Can any fix be made in the underlying wiki coding that would fix this display issue. There are still a lot of readers using various versions of Explorer. Thanks! 78.26 (talk) 00:58, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

4 millionth page and 500 millionth edit

Resolved

What was the 4 millionth page and what was the 5hundred millionth edit.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:21, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

You will find one of the two answers there: WP:4MIL. Regards, mabdul 18:25, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

The 500 millionth edit is easy enough to locate: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=500000000 The page will likely require a bit more hunting, unfortunately. Never mind, someone already found it Hersfold non-admin^(t/a/c) 18:24, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 21:16, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Campaign Finance Infobox

I have been editing some North Carolina legislator and political candidate pages. Particularly the pages for Pat McCrory and Walter H. Dalton. I uploaded an image of a chart I made in Excel to show first quarter campaign finance reports. I would like to use wiki code to visually show the fundraising figures instead of uploading an image that can't be edited easily as new information becomes available. Any suggestions? Vitocmarda (talk) 15:38, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Does Wikipedia:Graphs and charts help? Dismas|^(talk) 15:50, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

minor edit

I had edited an article, was ready to submit it, then saw

This is a minor edit (what's this?)

I clicked "what's this?", then tried to go back to my edit window: blank!

Nasty. "what's this?" should open a new window, like "Editing Help"; or, did I miss something? TAB (talk) 15:54, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

You didn't miss anything. That's the way it works. You can suggest a change to the Wiki code at Wikipedia:Village pump/Technical. You can also turn on the navigation previews in your preferences. Look for "Navigation previews" on the Gadgets tab of your preferences. Dismas|^(talk) 16:02, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Table showing in wrong place

Hi,

When reading Scottish Football League Third Division I noticed that the table listing stadia was displayed within the Winners of the Third Division section (picture of what I mean: [2])

However, upon editing the page, I noticed its already seems to be in the right place in the source... sure I'm missing something obvious, but can't figure out what?

Cheers, davidprior ^t/_c 17:08, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

It's working for me; it could be that your screen resolution is smaller than mine, and that (admittedly excessively large) image is forcing it elsewhere. If you can, try increasing your screen resolution or checking with a computer that's got a larger monitor. Hersfold non-admin^(t/a/c) 18:19, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Adding photos

How do I add a photo to an existing page? I have a photograph of George Berrell (1849-1933) that I would like to add to the entry about him17:34, 13 July 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wilsonroberts (talk • contribs)

In order to add an image to a page, that image needs to be uploaded first (see Help:Files). We also need to know, under which license that image has been released, though given the timespan you mention, there is a good chance that it might be in the public domain because its copyright has expired. Do you know who took that photo and when? -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 17:43, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Table

Why does the last cell not appear at User:Siddhartha Ghai/Sandbox? Please fix it. Rcsprinter (articulate) @ 19:46, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

I made an edit to your sandbox here. There was an empty comment which I removed. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 20:11, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

and I made the WTO emblem bigger. Indeed, there still are many empty comments, which make it hard to read, but are otherwise harmless. Maproom (talk) 20:14, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Not my sandbox - somebody was wondering on IRC so I asked on their behalf. But thanks! Rcsprinter (talk to me) @ 20:23, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Hmm, I really need to read stuff more carefully. :) -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 21:14, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks to all for the help.--Siddhartha Ghai (talk) 21:48, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Category:Categories

A Tip of the Day contains this text:

Main namespace: Main Page, List of basic topics, List of topic lists, all Portals (see Portal:Browse), the entire category system (see Category:Categories and Wikipedia:Browse), Wikipedia:Browse by overview, and Wikipedia:Quick index.

[Category:Categories] is red-lnked.

Thanks -- Jo3sampl (talk) 21:11, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

There were 11 tip of the day pages from 2006 to 2008 with a red link to Category:Categories. I have changed all 11 to Category:Contents. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:31, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! -- Jo3sampl (talk) 04:03, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Arkansas Tech University-Ozark Campus

The page for Arkansas Tech University-Ozark Campus was created with an incorrect title (Arkansas Tech University Ozark campus).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arkansas_Tech_University_Ozark_campus

I did not create the page, but I now head the campus' public relations department and made several changes today; however, I cannot figure out how to change the page's title and/or URL. Is this possible? Or, do I need to create a new page with the same information (but with our name correctly spelled in the title and URL) and ask that the old one be deleted?

Arkansas Tech-Ozark's Public Relations page (showing the correct spelling): http://www.atu.edu/ozark/publicrelations/

ATUOzark (talk) 22:22, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Pages are renamed using the Move function. If you are using the default Vector skin you will find the Move function on a "drop down" list that is accessed by clicking the downward pointing arrow that is to the right of the "star" and "View History" tabs at the top of the article text. However, are you sure the name you are quoting above is the correct name? QU ^TalkQu 22:38, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

If you head the PR department of the organisation, it is important that you familiarise yourself with Wikipedia's guidelines on organisations and Conflict of interest, or you may find yourself wasting effort on changes which will be swiftly undone. --ColinFine (talk) 23:23, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

The page you cite, http://www.atu.edu/ozark/publicrelations/, does not unambiguously show the correct spelling. At the top it has the strings "Arkansas Tech University" and "Ozark Campus" separated by an (extremely long) dash. Then in the first paragraph, it has the words "University" and "Ozark" joined by a hyphen. Maybe I'm being overly pedantic, but I feel you ought to clarify what the name of your campus is before making changes to its Wikipedia entry. Maproom (talk) 10:08, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

File:2108c1c4b74543a9938dfd8f1e178a82b80114eb.jpg

Hi, I think the file 2108c1c4b74543a9938dfd8f1e178a82b80114eb.jpg need to be reduce and renamed. Please like putting some templates or something. Thanks.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 22:31, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

• Done, tagged with {{Non-free reduce}} and {{Rename media}}. Thanks for noticing the issue. Monty₈₄₅ 22:40, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
  • Hey, glad I can help. I also sent a message to the uploader, however, can I reduce the file myself?--NeoBatfreak (talk) 22:43, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
    • Yes, you can do it yourself if your comfortable with an appropriate image editing software. Monty₈₄₅ 22:51, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
      • Thanks.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 04:23, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

How do I archive my talk page?

My user talk page is a wasteland of automated and 5-year-old messages. Honestly my life would be easier if I could get rid of it all, but apparently that's against policy. How do I make a talk page archive? DavidSSabb (talk) 22:45, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Actually, while it is generally discouraged, you are permitted to blank your talk page. It can be useful for those you interact with to see an archive of your talk page, an outline of how to archive can be found at Help:Archiving a talk page, but again, archiving is not required. Really the best and easiest approach is to set up automated archiving, one of the archiving bots has instructions at User:MiszaBot/Archive HowTo, set it up once, and forget about it. Monty₈₄₅ 22:49, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

I would prefer to keep the archive. I decided after reading the Archive HowTo page that I would like to set up a date-based archive (example 3) that archives discussions older than 30 days (rather than 5, as in the example). But because of my lack of understanding about wiki-coding, it's not working. I'd love if someone could take a look and tell me what I've done wrong. DavidSSabb (talk) 04:53, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Your "User:MiszaBot/config" looks fine to me. The archiving bot runs just once a day, I think, so wait 24 hours and post back here if nothing has been archived by then. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:36, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

...and it's worked. -- John of Reading (talk) 14:04, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

It wasn't working before, but I had copied it incorrectly. I forgot to mention that I fixed it on here. I see that it's working now. Thank you everyone for the help :) DavidSSabb (talk) 18:45, 14 July 2012 (UTC)