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[edit]Using Chinese Traditional Characters
[edit]I used to read the chines articles using the traditional characters, but know I just see the simplify one, has there been a change on the terms of use? is there a way to go back to the old way? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Avaldesm (talk • contribs) 22:26, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
using epinions what was the general rating of officemax
[edit]using epinions, what was the general rating of officemax —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.188.158.33 (talk) 01:04, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- Hi, this page is for asking questions about using Wikipedia. You may want to look at the article Office Max. You will not find any opinions or ratings of Office Max anywhere on Wikipedia. Sorry! Scottydude talk 01:57, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- If you want to know what ratings epinions gave to Office Max, you might want to check http://www.epinions.com , for reasons which are hopefully obvious. --tiny plastic Grey Knight ⊖ 07:23, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Problem with my User Page
[edit]I have recently been re formatting my user page. When I looked at the finished product I noticed that their is an upside down L like shape going through each of the images. Whenever I click any of the images it brings me to an error page called Bad title. Help would be greatly appreciated on this issue, and any user who wishes to help me has the freedom to edit my user page Kuro ♪ 21:48, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
- I've changed it to use {{click}} instead of what you were using. {{Click}} tends to work better, as it is considerably more common. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 03:14, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Outlook Research
[edit]It would be really good if Wikipedia did what ever is necessary to allow it's use as research source in MS Outlook 2007 - if I try to use Outlook says Wikipedia does not return a valid "something" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.243.77.173 (talk) 03:26, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- Can you quote the exact error message? We don't know how to fix "something". :-) --tiny plastic Grey Knight ⊖ 07:22, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- I have no idea what this question is about either. Sometimes searching the Web for some of the keywords in an otherwise incoherent question can find useful clues.
- But not this time, I guess. The question probably belongs on WP:VPT or Wikipedia:Reference desk/Computing, but the question in its current form would probably not be understandable except to someone who uses MS Outlook and knows how that program handles its "research sources." --Teratornis (talk) 14:39, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- Ah-ha, looks like it wants a web service search function, which I believe we don't have. Possibly somebody's built a third-party one we could tell the questioner about, if anybody has a link? I did some cursory looking but didn't find anything usable. --tiny plastic Grey Knight ⊖ 16:13, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Formatting in templates
[edit]Is there a way to insert formatting (like tables) as a parameter (that's allowed) in a template? Like, what would happen if internal (to the formatting) | or { are used? (The template would think it's one of its symbols... so how could I indicate that it's separate formatting?) -- Mentisock 09:52, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- I believe you have to use specific template things for using | and { inside of a template. (as for it not to be read as part of the markup.) I'm not an expert, or even a good novice at templates though, this is only from my prior conversations with template coders. Doing a little educated searching, (going to WP:TEMPLATE, and onto Help:Template, I found the following that may be of interest to you. Help:Template#A_parameter_value_containing_a_pipe_character.
- I believe that is what your question is referring to, reply back to tell me how I did. If I'm wrong please note such, so someone else can try :P —— nixeagle 13:56, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- I don't think I'd need that... I'm not trying to build a template, I'm trying to use one and inserting some formatting in one of its parameters (like: {{templateexample
|parameter 1
|parameter 2
||formatting with | and }}}). I need to specify that "|formatting with | and }" is part of the parameter (could as well be plain text but in my case it's formatting) and not the template (as in, I'm not telling it to go to the next parameter with a |). -- Mentisock 14:28, 31 July 2008 (UTC)- Right, to stick a | inside of a template, you have to do {{{!}}} and I'm sure there is an instruction in there for { and }. —— nixeagle 14:35, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong but the output now is either } or {{{2}}} and nothing else. I'm trying to convert all | to {{!}} (if I understood it right it's two braces not three). -- Mentisock 15:24, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- What example did you try?--Patrick (talk) 22:41, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- The tip of the day section on the community portal... trying to insert it as a parameter in the hidden template. -- Mentisock 11:03, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
- That seems to work fine except for the header:
- The tip of the day section on the community portal... trying to insert it as a parameter in the hidden template. -- Mentisock 11:03, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
- What example did you try?--Patrick (talk) 22:41, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong but the output now is either } or {{{2}}} and nothing else. I'm trying to convert all | to {{!}} (if I understood it right it's two braces not three). -- Mentisock 15:24, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- Right, to stick a | inside of a template, you have to do {{{!}}} and I'm sure there is an instruction in there for { and }. —— nixeagle 14:35, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- I don't think I'd need that... I'm not trying to build a template, I'm trying to use one and inserting some formatting in one of its parameters (like: {{templateexample
Tip of the day
[edit]As a new editor you may be wondering, "How can I help?" and be overwhelmed by the extent and scope of the entire Wikipedia project.
An introduction for new contributors is available at Help:Getting started which provides a self-guided road map of tutorials, introductions, training topics and other resources allowing you to learn more about how you can help improve the Wikipedia project.
- Patrick (talk) 07:35, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
- No, I meant actually getting the tip of the day from the community portal with all the formatting and trying to insert that into the latter part of the hidden template. -- Mentisock 10:27, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
- A link to an attempt demonstrating the problem would clarify it.--Patrick (talk) 23:14, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
- No, I meant actually getting the tip of the day from the community portal with all the formatting and trying to insert that into the latter part of the hidden template. -- Mentisock 10:27, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
- Patrick (talk) 07:35, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
Deleted article
[edit]Dear Wikepedia, What and extremely complicated and difficult to understand process you have for putting information on your site. My page about Phillips Sound Recording Services in Liverpool which I was just creating has been deleted overnight. I had only established the account and begun the article, thinking i could save it and complete the piece next day (ie, today) But it's been deleted. What should I do now, as I have a long, informative and useful article about Percy Phillips and his famous studio that I would like to make available via your website. Regards, AGBrint. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AGBrint (talk • contribs) 13:46, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- Well, you may want to review this guide to your first article. It has a lot of helpful tips. Also, I can create a sandbox page for you where you can play around with the article before it's ready to go out into the mainspace. Let me know if this helps! TN‑X-Man 13:52, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- (edcon)Have a look at Wikipedia:Why was my page deleted? and Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies). The reason is given in the deletion log here (towards the bottom of the page). Zain Ebrahim (talk) 13:56, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- Also, I've gone ahead and created a sandbox page for you here: User:AGBrint/Sandbox. Feel free to develop an article there. It's a stress free way to get started. If you have any questions about your article, I'll be happy to help. Cheers! TN‑X-Man 13:58, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- The whole content of the article was: "Percy Phillips opened his Phillips Sound Recording Services in 1955 in a downstairs room of his three storey tenement at 38 Kensington Liverpool. The studio was in business until 1969." (written by User:AGBrint).
- You need to demonstrate why this is notable and important. You may want to look at our guidelines on companies and corporations for what is and is not acceptable on wikipedia. Cheers! —— nixeagle 14:02, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- P.S. If anyone has a problem with my retrieving of the deleted article, feel free to bring it up on my talk page, however the article has only one author. —— nixeagle 14:02, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- Edit conflict - Specifically it was deleted because someone tagged it with a speedy deletion template under rule A7, which essentially states an article has to claim notability. There is a good chance that while your subject may have been notable, it was not stated clearly in the article or no sources were provided to verify its notability. Users tag new pages that they find suspect and administrators review them, deleting the ones that fall in line with that reasoning. If you do not wish to start the page over from scratch you could request to the deleting admin that he would undo the deletion, and perhaps move it to your userspace where you can work on it until you feel it will be ready for publication, which you can then move it back into the article mainspace.--Oni Ookami AlfadorTalk|@ 14:04, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- I've already "restored" the content, it was put there by one edit by one author, I doubt just copy pasting what I put above is any violation of the gpl or copyright restrictions given the authorship is so simple. —— nixeagle 14:09, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- I don't see why it would be, makes more sense than really moving the page if you ask me, and the original history does technically exist still. As for my comment, the bulk of it was written before your reply and I'm too lazy to re-edit parts that are already addressed when an edit conflict presents =) --Oni Ookami AlfadorTalk|@ 14:22, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- Ah :) and you are correct, technically all I have to do is credit the author(s) of the article, which I did above when I copied and pasted it. :P If he wishes to recreate it in a sandbox he is the author of the whole thing anyway. —— nixeagle 14:34, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- I don't see why it would be, makes more sense than really moving the page if you ask me, and the original history does technically exist still. As for my comment, the bulk of it was written before your reply and I'm too lazy to re-edit parts that are already addressed when an edit conflict presents =) --Oni Ookami AlfadorTalk|@ 14:22, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- I've already "restored" the content, it was put there by one edit by one author, I doubt just copy pasting what I put above is any violation of the gpl or copyright restrictions given the authorship is so simple. —— nixeagle 14:09, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
(undent) Wikipedia's policies, guidelines, and procedures are complicated and difficult for newbs. (See the Editor's index for an overview of this complexity.) However, there probably isn't a way to make Wikipedia much simpler than it is, because the English Wikipedia alone has 48,298,179 registered users and 6,914,031 articles. (It's hard enough to get just five or ten people to all agree on something, let alone 48,298,179, so Wikipedia has worked out extremely detailed procedures to resolve the inevitable disputes; see Wikipedia:There is no common sense.) Wikipedia is one of the top ten most popular Web sites in English. I imagine that all the other top ten sites are just as complicated in their own ways, but most of the other popular sites are not editable by their users, so their underlying complexity isn't apparent. To anyone who thinks Wikipedia is too complicated, I suggest to try working at a company like Google for a while, and see what it takes to put your stamp on their site. People spend years learning how to edit on the world's top sites, and learning Wikipedia in depth is similarly difficult. But note, creating new articles from scratch, and getting them to "stick," is one of the harder tasks on Wikipedia. New users can have a gentler introduction to Wikipedia by first making small edits to existing articles. See WP:BACKLOG for some tasks that need doing. --Teratornis (talk) 14:50, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
search option
[edit]I was wondering how I, if possible, could add a search option for a page. More specifically, for the "Calspan Corporation" page the search turns up nothing if you search for just Calspan. The option of Calspan Corporation pops up underneath the search bar as it should but I was wondering if I could do this for people that would merely throw in "Calspan" real quick and press enter. Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by Messier123 (talk • contribs) 14:03, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- Are you talking about a redirect? Zain Ebrahim (talk) 14:06, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- Well aside from the fact that the article is very promotional, with statements like "Within each of the 5 divisions Calspan has state-of-the-art equipment so that the customer can be satisfied with reliable and accurate results" (no sourcing here at all), as well as claims to accomplishments without any sourcing. (these should have easy to find sources)... The answer to your question is to use a redirect. (follow the link for the instructions). —— nixeagle 14:08, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- Many people prefer to search Wikipedia with an external search engine, for example Google:
- And see WP:PEACOCK for our guideline against promotional language. --Teratornis (talk) 14:24, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Photos
[edit]If I've got some photos that I think are good, and that I'm prepared to release under the G-thingy licence, if I upload them am I allowed to nominate them to be Good Photos, or Featured Photos, or whatever it is? pushthebutton | go on... | push it! 14:25, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, of course. If you think your photos could be featured pictures then go ahead and see how well they fare. :-) -- Mentisock 14:31, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Quotations as Headers
[edit](continued from yesterday) What is Wikipedia's policy on using quotations for section headers? Dabomb87 (talk) 15:27, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
- Uh, what do you mean? Can we have an example, because I'm not following, and its possible others are not either. —— nixeagle 16:24, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
- I think the question refers to using quotations in section headers. For example, using "One small step for man" as a section header for the moon landing. I don't think it should be a problem for very well known quotes, like the moon landing, various presidential speeches, etc., but that's my opinion. There may be a Manual of Style guideline for this. Cheers! TN‑X-Man 16:28, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
- The Manual of Style for sections WP:MOSHEAD doesn't really say one way or the other, actually. TN‑X-Man 16:32, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
- If it helps the article I'm talking about is Pat Nixon.Dabomb87 (talk) 14:41, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- I assume you mean the "I never had it easy." IMO, it works fine. I can't think any other header, at least not one that is so succinct. Paragon12321 (talk) 14:57, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- Alright, thanks. Dabomb87 (talk) 15:01, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- I assume you mean the "I never had it easy." IMO, it works fine. I can't think any other header, at least not one that is so succinct. Paragon12321 (talk) 14:57, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- If it helps the article I'm talking about is Pat Nixon.Dabomb87 (talk) 14:41, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- The Manual of Style for sections WP:MOSHEAD doesn't really say one way or the other, actually. TN‑X-Man 16:32, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
- I think the question refers to using quotations in section headers. For example, using "One small step for man" as a section header for the moon landing. I don't think it should be a problem for very well known quotes, like the moon landing, various presidential speeches, etc., but that's my opinion. There may be a Manual of Style guideline for this. Cheers! TN‑X-Man 16:28, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
WHY
[edit]WHY CAN I NOT VIEW THIS PAGE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:List_of_Wikipedians_by_number_of_edits/20061130/ip IT ALWAYS GIVES ME AN ERROR AT ALL HOURS OF THE DAY WHY IS THIS HOW TO FIX? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mashpotatorman (talk • contribs) 15:07, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:List_of_Wikipedians_by_number_of_edits Try it now. Please don't shout on the Help Desk, thanks. PeterSymonds (talk) 15:11, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by number of edits/20061130/ip is 1,187 kilobytes long. This size causes problems in many situations. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:16, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- I'm also unable to view it but I can see the source at http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:List_of_Wikipedians_by_number_of_edits/20061130/ip&action=edit. Maybe the rendering of the page hits a software limit. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:20, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- I seem to recall being able to load pages that were well over 1.18 MB in size. That's not to say that there should ever be a page that size, just that there didn't used to be a hardcoded size limit. Perhaps the developers added one. During the period prior to the introduction of Scsbot (talk · contribs) when RefDeskBot (talk · contribs) was inoperable both the Help and Reference desks regularly pushed that limit, and while pages of that size were browser-breaking-ly large, I don't recall them ever refusing to load.--VectorPotential Talk 15:24, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- I also meant something in the page might hit a limit, for example the size of a table (the whole page is a table). PrimeHunter (talk) 15:32, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- It is quite possible that there is some other factor here besides page length, my experiments (don't click (or mouse over with popups) unless you want to spend 5 minutes waiting for your browser to unfreeze!) have shown that a 1.85 MB page all wrapped in a wiki-table does not duplicate the same sort of blank page as with that list. Could be that it makes repetitive use of a (or perhaps several) templates which could be pushing the page over the transclusion limit.--VectorPotential Talk 15:51, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- Although it doesn't appear as though that page uses any templates, so I'm at a loss to explain what's causing it.--VectorPotential Talk 16:18, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- It is quite possible that there is some other factor here besides page length, my experiments (don't click (or mouse over with popups) unless you want to spend 5 minutes waiting for your browser to unfreeze!) have shown that a 1.85 MB page all wrapped in a wiki-table does not duplicate the same sort of blank page as with that list. Could be that it makes repetitive use of a (or perhaps several) templates which could be pushing the page over the transclusion limit.--VectorPotential Talk 15:51, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- I also meant something in the page might hit a limit, for example the size of a table (the whole page is a table). PrimeHunter (talk) 15:32, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- I seem to recall being able to load pages that were well over 1.18 MB in size. That's not to say that there should ever be a page that size, just that there didn't used to be a hardcoded size limit. Perhaps the developers added one. During the period prior to the introduction of Scsbot (talk · contribs) when RefDeskBot (talk · contribs) was inoperable both the Help and Reference desks regularly pushed that limit, and while pages of that size were browser-breaking-ly large, I don't recall them ever refusing to load.--VectorPotential Talk 15:24, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- THANK YOU. I DIDN'T REALISE THE PAGE WAS SO BIG I JUST THOUGHT I'D FOUND SOME SORT OF BIZARRE ERROR. EVERY TIME I TRIED IT I GET A WIKIPEDIA FOUNDATION ERROR MESSAGE, SO IT IS NOT A PROBLEM AT MY END BUT AT THE WIKIPEDIAS. MY BROWSER IS FIREFOX AND IT DOESN'T CRASH. THANK YOU FOR YOU HELP I HAVE FOUND WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR IN THE POST BY PrimeHunter. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mashpotatorman (talk • contribs) 15:35, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- Please stop SHOUTING! Typing in caps is considered shouting, FYI. – ukexpat (talk) 15:40, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- I AM SORRY BUT I AM UNABLE TO DECAPITALIZE MY TEXT BECAUSE I AM ON A VERY OLD COMPUTER. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CONVERT MY TEXT TO LOWERCASE, OR IF IT IS THAT MUCH OF A PROBLEM JUST SAY AND I WILL STOP POSTING UNTIL I AM AT ANOTHER COMPUTER. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mashpotatorman (talk • contribs) 15:42, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- You couldn't just hold down shift while you type?--VectorPotential Talk 15:48, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- oh lol i've been such an idiot! thank you VectorPotential, it is a little difficult to type now but i will try and remember from now on. its only on this computer i am on right now that does this because i have the keyboard configured wrong. anyway, thank you and thak you to every who answered i have the info from that page i needed. thanks.
- On Wikipedia you can use the magic word
{{lc:}}
, for example{{lc:THANK YOU}}
produces "thank you". PrimeHunter (talk) 16:10, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- On Wikipedia you can use the magic word
- oh lol i've been such an idiot! thank you VectorPotential, it is a little difficult to type now but i will try and remember from now on. its only on this computer i am on right now that does this because i have the keyboard configured wrong. anyway, thank you and thak you to every who answered i have the info from that page i needed. thanks.
- You couldn't just hold down shift while you type?--VectorPotential Talk 15:48, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- I AM SORRY BUT I AM UNABLE TO DECAPITALIZE MY TEXT BECAUSE I AM ON A VERY OLD COMPUTER. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CONVERT MY TEXT TO LOWERCASE, OR IF IT IS THAT MUCH OF A PROBLEM JUST SAY AND I WILL STOP POSTING UNTIL I AM AT ANOTHER COMPUTER. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mashpotatorman (talk • contribs) 15:42, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- Please stop SHOUTING! Typing in caps is considered shouting, FYI. – ukexpat (talk) 15:40, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- I'm also unable to view it but I can see the source at http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:List_of_Wikipedians_by_number_of_edits/20061130/ip&action=edit. Maybe the rendering of the page hits a software limit. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:20, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
notability/references
[edit]I am newer to the wikipedia domain so I am still figuring out what is proper and what needs to be done for it to be kept on the site. At the moment I am having trouble pin pointing exactly what I need to add to the Calspan Corporation page. I know I need to reference, which I am currently working on, but are there specific parts that I need to reference or a type of material that I added that always needs to be referenced in a certain way? And one part of the message on top of the page says to be fine I need to add third party referencesw only but another part says second party ref. Which one is needed, or is it both? Thank you for any much needed help! Messier123 (talk) 16:24, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Also I am not sure if the history section is in conflict because I have not added anything to that section and that section seemed to be fine before I started adding. Additionally, would it be recommended that I just throw a lot of this stuff in a sandbox so that I can have a bit of time to reference and such? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Messier123 (talk • contribs) 16:29, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- Have a look at Wikipedia:Citing sources and Wikipedia:Footnotes for some information. − Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 17:45, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
sandbox possible?
[edit]Hi, I'm somewhat new to the wikipedia editing and when I am editing I may not get everything I need to be on the page in the day I am working on it or anything. I am just making precautions so that the page does not get deleted because of missing content I am trying to find at the moment or figuring out. What can be done? Isn't something named a sandbox possible for this sort of thing? Messier123 (talk) 17:38, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- Here you go! Tan ǀ 39 17:41, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- (edit conflict)A sandbox is a great idea. I've created one for you (User:Messier123/Sandbox). Feel free to work on an article there. It's a good stress free way to get started and once you feel ready, you can move the article to the mainspace. Best of luck! TN‑X-Man 17:41, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- Well, he has a choice now, depending on whether or not he prefers things capitalized ;-) Tan ǀ 39 17:43, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- Exactly my thoughts. He's hit the sandbox jackpot. :-) TN‑X-Man 17:45, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- Well, he has a choice now, depending on whether or not he prefers things capitalized ;-) Tan ǀ 39 17:43, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- (edit conflict)A sandbox is a great idea. I've created one for you (User:Messier123/Sandbox). Feel free to work on an article there. It's a good stress free way to get started and once you feel ready, you can move the article to the mainspace. Best of luck! TN‑X-Man 17:41, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Heh, thank you for the multiple sandboxes, just a quick question...when I sign out and sign back in tomorrow how would I get to the sandbox, will it be under something next to my login name? Thank you Messier123 (talk) 17:51, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- Well, the links will still be on this page. Tanthalas has left you a link your talk page as well. Finally, you can go to your user page and from there, add (/sandbox) in the address bar of your browser and that should take you there as well. Cheers! TN‑X-Man 17:54, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- I jacked up the jackpot slightly by giving User:Messier123 a way to keep track of his/her sandboxes. See User:Messier123#Subpages. To Messier123: feel free to edit or remove that if you don't want it on your user page. --Teratornis (talk) 17:55, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- Or, what I do a lot, is go to my contributions (link on upper right of page, by your watchlist, etc) and find it there (provided you have made edits to it). (edit conflict) Or what Teratornis did. Any more "help" and he'll be hopelessly confused! :-) Tan ǀ 39 17:57, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- Wikipedia has many ways to do many things, which does confuse new users, but after about ten years it can start making sense. To Messier123: the next time you log in, you will see your user name at the top of every page on Wikipedia. Your user name there is a link to your user page. If you click that link, you will see links to your sandbox pages that I added to your user page for you. Many users on Wikipedia add links
toon their user pages to other pages they want to access quickly. As mentioned above, you can also see your contributions and watchlist to revisit pages you have edited or viewed. --Teratornis (talk) 18:05, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- Wikipedia has many ways to do many things, which does confuse new users, but after about ten years it can start making sense. To Messier123: the next time you log in, you will see your user name at the top of every page on Wikipedia. Your user name there is a link to your user page. If you click that link, you will see links to your sandbox pages that I added to your user page for you. Many users on Wikipedia add links
- Or, what I do a lot, is go to my contributions (link on upper right of page, by your watchlist, etc) and find it there (provided you have made edits to it). (edit conflict) Or what Teratornis did. Any more "help" and he'll be hopelessly confused! :-) Tan ǀ 39 17:57, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- I jacked up the jackpot slightly by giving User:Messier123 a way to keep track of his/her sandboxes. See User:Messier123#Subpages. To Messier123: feel free to edit or remove that if you don't want it on your user page. --Teratornis (talk) 17:55, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Revert Image
[edit]Image:Holes.jpg is supposed to be an image of the book cover to Holes (novel). The image page was changed 17:48, July 26, 2008 to be aThe Midway State album cover. I clicked on the revert link to get back the old image, but it doesn't appear to have worked. What did I do wrong? --Jms2000 (talk) 17:48, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- How weird! The image page is right, but the article wrong. Purging the article didn't help; changing the image size in the article did. —teb728 t c 18:10, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- Sometimes you have to do a null edit, which is essentially what you did. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 18:37, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- No, a null didn’t work either; indeed this version is still wrong. The only difference in wikicode is the image size. —teb728 t c 19:07, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for the help--Jms2000 (talk) 21:41, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- Cross-posted from WP:VPT#Article uses old version of image: Purging the image works. Algebraist 21:50, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for the help--Jms2000 (talk) 21:41, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- No, a null didn’t work either; indeed this version is still wrong. The only difference in wikicode is the image size. —teb728 t c 19:07, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- Sometimes you have to do a null edit, which is essentially what you did. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 18:37, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
No recipes in articles
[edit]I think there is a policy or guideline somewhere that more or less says that articles shouldn't contain recipes. I've searched but cannot find this. Do you know where it is? ike9898 (talk) 18:20, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- I believe you are looking for WP:NOTGUIDE. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 18:22, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) I think an applicable guide would be WP:NOTHOWTO. It basically says WP is not a how-to guide. TN‑X-Man 18:23, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- Different shortcuts, same page & section :) Calvin 1998 (t-c) 18:48, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) I think an applicable guide would be WP:NOTHOWTO. It basically says WP is not a how-to guide. TN‑X-Man 18:23, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Create
[edit]How Do I Add A New Name To Wikipedia —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.160.230.246 (talk) 21:01, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- You will need to first register an account, which has many benefits, including the ability to create articles. Once you have registered, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.
- Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.
- If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. Algebraist 21:02, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Autoconfirm
[edit]I have a picture that i took for a page and i cannot upload nor do i know how to upload it.
Also another page i have been editing off and on (jeff gordon) all of a sudden has a lock on it. Any help here. i realize i am not an expert at editing on wikipedia yet, but i teach alot of physics chemistry and math and would like to make some contributions.
Kamaksi (talk) 21:43, 31 July 2008 (UTC)kamaksi
- You need at least 10 edits to be autoconfirmed and upload images. You have 7 edits so just make 3 more. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:46, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- You can also edit the recently semi-protected Jeff Gordon article when you become autoconfirmed. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:48, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- Also, if you're interested you may want to join our Wikiprojects in in physics, chemistry and mathematics. Wikiprojects are a great way for new editors to learn the ropes and help collaborate with other editors on similar topics. Hope this helps, Gazimoff 21:55, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Taylor Forrester (From Bold and the beautiful)
[edit]1. Taylor had an affair with Stephen Logan. Taylor had an emotional affair with Hector Ramirez 2. Taylor and Ridge's marriage was broken up due to Taylor's affair with James Warrick during the time she and Ridge was married. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.7.158.30 (talk) 22:24, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- Do you have a question about using Wikipedia? Astronaut (talk) 23:51, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Linking accounts on Wikipedia
[edit]I tried to link my account on the en.wikipedia.org site with one on the fr.wikipedia.org site, but I forgot that I hadn't created an account on the French site yet, and there's an error on my preferences page saying the following information:
In migration Your account is active on 1 project site. Unconfirmed accounts with your name remain on 1 project.
I really only use the en.wikipedia.org site. Can you help me with this?Vrousseau 23:33, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
slanderous information
[edit]how do I get slanderous information out of the section on my personal bio —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chopperpilot (talk • contribs) 23:37, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- Which article are you talking about? Xenon54 23:44, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Due to a possible conflict of interest, you are discouraged from editing an article about yourself except to remove patently incorrect factual information. Just be prepared to explain the reasons for your edit on the article's talk page.
- Of course, if you are not a notable person suitable for a Wikipedia article, then there shouldn't be an article (personal bio) about you in the first place.
- Astronaut (talk) 23:49, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Warning Message?
[edit]Hey there,
I was using Huggle, when I suddenly found that I could no longer rollback any of the vandalism. I clicked the button , it greyed out, and then, nothing happened. When I tried to revert the vandalism manually, using Firefox, I got this message:
There seems to be a problem with your login session;
this action has been canceled as a precaution against session hijacking.
Please hit "back" and reload the page you came from, then try again.
Help?
Perfect Proposal Speak Out! 23:59, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- There's already a discussion of the same problem at WP:VPT#"Unable to proceed". Algebraist 00:03, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
- A past discussion: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive18#Problem with rollback?. The upshot there was that while it's annoying, doing as the error message suggests (hitting "back" and reloading the page) was effective, at least for those users.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:08, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
- I've tried that multiple times. Rollback isn't working. It seems to be affecting other users, see below, and link above. Perfect Proposal Speak Out! 00:10, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, no matter what I try nothing seems to be working - CL — 00:11, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
- Seeing that this is obviously a technical issue, I think we should be discussing this over at the village pump (here). Calvin 1998 (t-c) 00:13, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, no matter what I try nothing seems to be working - CL — 00:11, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
- I've tried that multiple times. Rollback isn't working. It seems to be affecting other users, see below, and link above. Perfect Proposal Speak Out! 00:10, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
- A past discussion: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive18#Problem with rollback?. The upshot there was that while it's annoying, doing as the error message suggests (hitting "back" and reloading the page) was effective, at least for those users.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:08, 1 August 2008 (UTC)