Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Metallica concert tours/archive2

The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was not promoted by Dabomb87 00:30, 11 March 2010 [1].

List of Metallica concert tours

Nominator(s): Nergaal (talk) 03:57, 18 January 2010 (UTC), igordebraga ≠ 01:53, 20 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because I believe it fulfills the FL criteria. Similar FLs are that of Jackson, Kyle Minogue, and Nine Inch Nails. While trying to take most of the best elements from the three others, this list is this is a bit longer in terms of entries so the focus might be slightly different from the rest. Nergaal (talk) 03:57, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This is a WikiCup nomination. To the nominator: if you do not intend to submit this article at the WikiCup, feel free to remove this notice. Mm40 (talk) 12:48, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Restarted, old version.
Note I have restarted this nom, as the page was getting long with comments, and it was not clear what had been addressed and what hadn't. Can all reviewers please restate their opinions and list whatever concerns they have left? Dabomb87 (talk) 22:49, 12 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose from Truco (talk · contribs)

General

Some improvement since last nomination, but still needs work.

Alt text, external and dab links, and contributors all check out fine.

Lead

Kirk Hammett replaced Mustaine in 1983, while the bassist role was taken by Cliff Burton from 1982 until his death in 1986, then by Jason Newsted until 2001 and by Robert Trujillo from 2003 -- very long sentence, I would simply state this as ..was taken by Cliff Burton (1982-1986), Jason Newsted (1986-2001)...etc

done Nergaal (talk) 04:47, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Since 1982, Metallica has performed all over the world, in North and South America, Europe, East and Southeast Asia,[note 1] Australia, New Zealand, Israel, and South Africa. -- all over the world is a WP:POV-ish comment, I would rephrase it as "in various parts of the world" or "in various regions of the world"

"Varius" to me sounds like an understatement. Is "on all continents" acceptable? Nergaal (talk) 04:46, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Itslongest so far has been the "Wherever We May Roam" tour, which lasted 14 months and had over 174 concerts. -- space between Its longest, and I would believe it would be better phrased as Their longest since its a band, group collaborative type of thing.

fixed Nergaal (talk) 04:47, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The lead lacks still from its original nomination that I reviewed, add wording such as the amount of tours in each decade, the amount of tours in certain areas of the world, etc. [basically more information about the list itself]

How does it look now? Nergaal (talk) 06:09, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tour list

Is the gray color really necessary? I think white would go perfect as a the background and just some gray in the column areas or outline.

A previous reviewer requested it. Personally I don't really care. Should I take it out? Nergaal (talk) 04:21, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Same comment from original review: Why are the notes of each tour in present tense? Like almost advertisement-like writing. They should be in past tense such as The tour consisted of so and so.. not The tour consists of so and so...

For whatever reason I thought the other nominator took care of this. Anyways, I changed all the instances to past and if I missed any let me know. Nergaal (talk) 04:15, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Why exactly are some entries in the number of shows column as >67, does this mean the real amount is not known or what?

Not sure why that was like that; I removed it and put in the correct exact number. Nergaal (talk) 04:21, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You may as well rename the Dates column to Dates and location.

Did but pluralized it. Nergaal (talk) 04:21, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The locations should be more elaborate or get their own column if possible, because World Tour can mean a lot. Their is a lot of inconsistency, such as USA, UK, Europe. Another thing is that the UK and USA should be spelled out before you use the acronym form. The same inconsistency is in with the Supporting Acts.

You are right. For consistency should I just stick to continents even though say only USA is visited? For the supporting acts I removed the locations part and added a note instead as it really hard to be consistent in the case of the earlier tours. Nergaal (talk) 04:37, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The column for notes should be explained somewhere as to what it includes, ie. summary of tour or other relevant notes.

Ok, but I have no idea how can I do that. In the case of TV episodes list, there is no such note for the plot entry just below each episode; how is that different from this? Nergaal (talk) 04:37, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

References

Link all publishers or don't link them at all, such as you have with Yahoo!--Truco ₅₀₃ 23:31, 19 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've tried to link the first instance of a publisher. Have I missed linking anything (besides Metallica.com)? Nergaal (talk) 04:41, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I did a copyedit to the lead, to avoid the hassle of writing down everything here. In addition, I would seek a copyedit of the notes columns of each entry because some of the writing is non-professional, such as 'North American leg' -> 'North American portion', or 'secret gig' -> 'private gig'. In addition, you actually missed MTV as a linked publisher.Truco ₅₀₃ 02:07, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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