Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Leeteuk performances/archive1
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- The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.
The list was promoted by Giants2008 via FACBot (talk) 00:27, 21 September 2020 (UTC) [1].[reply]
List of Leeteuk performances (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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- Nominator(s): Lulusword (talk) 20:24, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I am nominating this for featured list because he is a prominent figure in South Korean entertainment industry, having an extensive filmography. I have been working on this article since January, and I believe it has meet the criteria. Lulusword (talk) 20:24, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
| Resolved comments from ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:22, 10 June 2020 (UTC)[reply] |
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- The only outstanding thing I can see is that the notes are not complete sentences, so should not have full stops. I did mention this above, but they are still there. -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:39, 10 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Sorry, I must have overlooked them. I've fix the issue now, hopefully I didn't miss anything else. Lulusword (talk) 08:35, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comments by Bilorv
[edit](Intending to claim WikiCup points for this review.)
- "K-pop boy band Super Junior" is a sea of blue that could be remedied by unlinking boy band.
- The lead should be at most four paragraphs long; I'd recommend merging the last two paragraphs and listing fewer award/concert hostings.
- The "Television shows" has a hardcoded width in pixels that makes it very thin on my monitor, and very wide when I minimise the screen. By removing this width specification, it makes the tables display appropriately on a wider range of monitors and web browsers.
- I'd expect each table to be sortable by every column other than "Ref", particularly useful for sorting "Television shows" by name or network.
- Some tables use "Ref." and some use "Ref" but I think all should use
{{Abbr|Ref.|References}}. - Each table should have a caption (achieved by
|+ Title of the table) e.g. "List of Leeteuk performances in film" for accessibility reasons (so people who use screen readers know what the table is about). - Should The Best Cooking Secrets be "2017 – present" rather than "2017 – 2020" (like the value below it)?
- Super Junior Kiss the Radio should use "2006–2011, 2016" rather than "2006–2011; 2016" (for consistency).
- When are networks linked and when are they not (e.g. SBS isn't for Salamander Guru and The Shadows but is in the following Star King)?
- Why is File:20180820 Leeteuk ISAC Chuseok Special.png displayed at a size considerably smaller than the image above it?
- I'm not a fan of File:Leeteuk Analog Trip press conference (cropped).png, which looks a bit bad quality to me, and has logos and is very tall. I'd suggest removing, but if it is to be kept, could it be cropped (to a similar body portion as the other images)?
... to celebrate those who had honorably completed their military service
is not neutral, and I think the note could be removed completely as it doesn't give any more information than the title "Military Service Awards".
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Thanks for your work on the list. — Bilorv (Black Lives Matter) 15:59, 13 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Hello Bilorv, thank you for the comment. I've fixed most of the things you point out but as I can only edit on mobile, I am not sure how the layout looks now as I can only rely on "view on desktop site" setting. The table was hard coded with pixel mainly because it is quite large and take up the whole space, but since you pointed out the issue, I have move the pictures to the top of the table. I also changed the Analog Trip press conference image with a better quality image. Is that okay? Leeteuk's departure from The Best Cooking Secrets had been announced and the last episode featuring him will air on July, so I use "2017–2020" as the year range, while SJ Return is still filming, with episodes written up to January/February 2021 and does not have confirmation on when the season will end, so I use "2017–present" for it. Is that okay or should I still use "2017–present" for both of them? Lulusword (talk) 09:08, 16 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Alright, I've made one edit about the refs being unsortable here but otherwise everything has been suitably addressed—thanks for those answers. Probably good that these tables have been designed with mobile foremost as that's where most of our readers are viewing, and it does look good on my desktop at least. Support (with references taken on good faith as I can't speak Korean). — Bilorv (Black Lives Matter) 19:02, 16 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:35, 16 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from TRM
[edit]WikiCup entry
- "He had hosted" has.
- "which were screened in selected cinemas." where is this cited?
- I sourced to KOFIC which indicate the number of screens, is this acceptable? Lulusword (talk) 07:18, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- "a host when he hosted t" repetitive.
- "he enlisted in the military" shouldn't that really be "he was conscripted into"?
- I'm not sure about this, because news article always used the term "enlist" when Korean entertainers go into the military, I rarely sees the term conscription. Should I change it, regardless? Lulusword (talk) 07:18, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- No it's fine. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 14:17, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- "He started hosting" why not just "He hosted"?
- Film title should be the row scope, not the year of release.
- Do you mean film title should come first or film title should have the grey background, because the most recently promoted filmography list Javier Bardem filmography looks similar to what my table looks like now. Lulusword (talk) 07:18, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- That's what I mean but it's not a deal-breaker. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 14:17, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Television shows, don't use colour alone to denote something, per MOS:COLOR, a symbol as well please.
- Note column need not be sortable as it's free text, not useful.
- Sortable table needs each linkable item to be linked every time as after sorting you aren't sure which one lists first.
- Can you clarify what do you mean by this? Lulusword (talk) 07:18, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Items in sortable tables which are linked should be linked every time. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 14:15, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Television show title should be the row scope.
- same as above Lulusword (talk) 07:18, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- See MOS:DTT for information on "scopes". The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 14:15, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Tables with one entry need not be sortable, looks silly.
- Spaced hyphens should be en-dashes per MOS:DASH.
That's it on a first pass. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 10:23, 9 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for the comment! :) Lulusword (talk) 07:18, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Quick comment – I haven't done a full review of the sources, but on a glance I can see that references 5 and 6 have all caps in the titles, which should be removed per the Manual of Style.Giants2008 (Talk) 15:27, 31 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Source review - Pass
[edit]- A lot of sources! From a first glance it looks like you've included translated titles and "in Korean" markings so that's awesome to see. Anyways, doing (full) source review now Aza24 (talk) 06:36, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- ref 4 missing date
- Ref 15 shouldn't be in all caps, per WP:MOS (as far as I remember at least)
- ref 2 in 50 missing author
- refs 79 and 80 missing authors (at bottom of page)
- is there a reason is "Naver news" for refs 25 and 49a instead of just "Naver" like the rest?
- Ugh I hate to call you attention to a tedious task, but most of the "Naver" sources are missing the authors. This may because some of them are at the end of the articles
- In fact, it looks like a lot of refs are missing authors (probably because a lot are like the above, at the end of the page), if you want we could split the refs in half and each go through checking for authors? The sources look good otherwise. Aza24 (talk) 07:05, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- That will be cool. Please let me know which half I need to do. Lulusword (talk) 07:48, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- I've started from the top. If I'm not finish by the time you check in, you can start at the bottom. Otherwise, I think I can do it. It's tedious but it's not that hard :D Lulusword (talk) 08:14, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- I have some other things I'm in the middle of but I'd be able to go through the other half tomorrow. If you want to do so before then feel free to, but if not no worries. Aza24 (talk) 04:56, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, I've finished adding authors to all news articles that have them. Lulusword (talk) 06:32, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for getting through them, I was just about to do so but it looks like you beat me to it. Anyways, great work here, pass for source review. Aza24 (talk) 23:19, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Support ~ HAL333 19:57, 25 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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