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The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted by Ian Rose 10:03, 15 June 2013 (UTC) [1].[reply]

Tommy Amaker

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Nominator(s): TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:23, 17 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured article because it meets the requirements. This is part of my attempt to put basketball back on the map at WP:FAC. Recently, my nomination of Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Juwan Howard/archive5 was the first WP:NBA article to become an WP:FA in almost 4 years. WP:CBBALL has gone through a similar drought aside from nominally associated articles such as Jackie Robinson and Otto Graham.TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:23, 17 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. the recent WP:PR reviewer, Figureskatingfan (talk · contribs), suggested that I have someone else take a look at the article. I was able to get Finetooth (talk · contribs) to do a copyedit. Both the PR and the copyedit helped the article a great deal.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:33, 17 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comments – I'm seeing a number of picky issues early in the article, which leaves me concerned about what else is in there

  • Support' after I fixed a ref without publisher, can't see no problems. (one might find strange the lack of authors in most, but given they're made by AP, it's no big deal) igordebraga ≠ 15:10, 26 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support with pause. During the above-mentioned PR, I had some minor quibbles and disagreed with the main editor over minor issues, such as some of the content in the "Personal life" section. For example, I didn't think that where Amaker eats breakfast is notable enough to include, and Tony disagreed. As I told him at the time, I wanted to wait for what future reviews here at FAC would say about it. As a result, I'm willing to give this article my support until others chime in about this, but I've never thought that it should stop things from moving forward here. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 15:41, 27 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm now good with the changes as per Giants2008's comments below. I'm still not completely happy with some of the other content in the "Personal life" section, and have gone on the record about that in my PR, but it doesn't seem to be an issue with most of the reviewers here thus far, so I'm fine with keeping it. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 16:52, 5 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Further comment – I came back to strike the remaining comments and offer support, but on a second look the personal life section is bothering me in the same way that Christine questioned. For me, the sentences about the sauce his mother makes for him are not encyclopedic at all. Merely being "a finicky eater" doesn't strike me as worthy of inclusion in a biography. I can see having the Harvard breakfasts included to have a mention of Amaker's off-court activities for comprehensiveness purposes, but the sauce is pushing it in my view. Although I won't oppose over the presence of the information, I'd like to see those sentences reduced or removed before supporting promotion. Giants2008 (Talk) 00:14, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
My initial thoughts were on hte sauce was that it was a nice way of engaging the reader and was useful on that basis to add some colour to the article.
Thanks for the support. I hope not to have to cut any more in response to comments above by others.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 06:47, 5 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
...set numerous records and earned many recognitions. - what are "recognitions"? Is this a basketball-specific term?
Changed to honors and awards.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 07:17, 5 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
the NCAA ruled that Amaker had committed recruiting violation --> "the NCAA ruled that Amaker had committed a recruiting violation" ?
Fixed.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 06:44, 5 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
what is Sweet Sixteen
I added (regional semifinals).--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 06:59, 5 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
In the tournament he barely played in at least one game and started in at least one. - worded funny - not sure where the emphasis is supposed to be.
This content has been an issue prior discussions (WP:PR and/or WP:GAC). Could you look at the source and make a suggestion.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 23:11, 5 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
How about - "He played in two games in the tournament, the first on-field for a mere two minutes against Puerto Rico, but he played a prominent role in the USA's win over Italy."
I modified it slightly, but I swapped that in essentially.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 19:34, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comments: Overall, this looks fairly solid and I do not intend a full review. However, just glancing at it, I noticed a few glaring prose issues, which I am surprised to see so far into a nomination. Sarastro1 (talk) 11:20, 6 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support – The only reason I withheld my support after the resolution of my previous comments was to see if I could do something about the paragraph beginnings that were mentioned above. I introduced a little more variety, which I'm comfortable with. There's still a little too much trivial personal info for my tastes, but it's a matter of opinion and I won't withhold my backing over it. Giants2008 (Talk) 01:10, 9 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Image check - all OK (own work released as CC, PD).

Sources review (beginning) I've started this, but am having difficulty with some links, particularly with PDFs which keep giving me timeouts. I hope this is a local problem that will soon subside. Anyway, thus far, from the first column:

I will persevere with the remaining cols. Brianboulton (talk) 19:07, 10 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Continuing:

The article is certainly referenced comprehensively, and so far as I can see, with the odd exception referred to above, these are appropriate and reliable. Brianboulton (talk) 21:01, 10 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delegate comment -- Pls check your dup links. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 11:46, 14 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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