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Siege of Breteuil (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator(s): Gog the Mild (talk) 23:53, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It has been 18 months since I nominated an article at FAC. Clearly time to get back to the grindstone. I am working up a couple of start class articles, but scratching around in my sprawling to do section I came across this article, which had made it to A class but then never got its moment here. I have looked it over, tidied it up a little and believe it may be ready. For a few weeks in 1356 the military focus of western Europe was an obscure fortification in Normandy. Then things moved on. I think I have pulled together the most comprehensive article there is on this mildly odd event and how it came to be. As ever, all comments, suggestions and complaints are most welcome. Gog the Mild (talk) 23:53, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

HF

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I'll try to take a look at this soon. Hog Farm Talk 17:33, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Matarisvan

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Hi Gog the Mild, saving a place here and will be posting my comments soon. As a drive-by comment, consider adding an inline map to the infobox? Also, is it not known who the leader of the Navarese knights was? Matarisvan (talk) 18:55, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Matarisvan and thanks for taking a look at this. I was about to move the map in "First siege" up to the bottom of the infobox when I wondered what you meant by "inline". Could you elaborate? Thanks. "leader of the Navarese knights", *scratches head*. I don't mention "Knights" anywhere in the text and having just reread it can't see where you might mean for any force of mounted Navarrese men-at-arms. I am probably being slow, but could you help me out? Gog the Mild (talk) 20:38, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Gog the Mild, by inline I meant using the map_type and map_size parameters in the infobox so that the map shows up inside the infobox, and you don't have to move up the image in the First siege section which is ok where it is. About the Navarrese knights thing, I was reading an article on knighs before I commented here so I mixed up knights with garrison. Matarisvan (talk) 22:06, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Cheers.
  • Map. No prob, just being doing similar for a different article.
  • Assuming you mean "were reinforced by up to 1,700 men from Navarrese-held fortifications during the following month" then sadly no sources mention local leaders. ORing I am pretty certain will be because they were made up of 100 from this town, 50 from that castle etc, each under "officers" too junior to be mentioned and slotted into the existing "command structure".
Gog the Mild (talk) 22:21, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Map done. If it's not how you had envisaged it, let me know. Gog the Mild (talk) 22:56, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Images are appropriately licensed. Nikkimaria (talk) 05:01, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Crisco

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  • I've added {{nowrap}} to the monarch names, per MOS:NBSP. Please review.
  • Meanwhile John II felt the need to stand ready to personally intervene in Normandy if needed. But commitments had been made that a royal army would succour south-west France and so a second army was raised at Bourges and John's third son, the fifteen-year-old John, Count of Poitiers was given nominal command. - Two things: 1) meanwhile generally uses a comma, and 2) it feels awkward to start a sentence with "but". Would it be possible to refactor these sentences?
  • another younger brother of Charles of Navarre - Worth going simply "another younger brother of Charles"?
  • St. Vaast la Hougue - I thought the full stop was omitted in BrE?
  • Is the usage of "Men" in this article compliant with MOS:GNL?
  • anyone who it was considered might be worth a ransom. - Would "whom it considered" work better?
  • I'm seeing two links to "looting" in the body; is that much linking necessary?
  • Some time around 20 August he offered the garrison of Breteuil free passage to the Cotentin, a huge bribe and permission to take their valuables and goods, to persuade them to vacate the town. - Did they take the offer?