Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Garden City High School (Kansas)/archive1

The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was not promoted by SandyGeorgia 16:57, 20 June 2009 [1].

Garden City High School (Kansas)

Nominator(s): JHawk88 07:32, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured article because... I feel like this article has been heavily reviewed and rigorously well-written. I personally have closely edited and inspected nearly every aspect of the article and I feel that it deserves to be a Featured Article. Furthermore, it contains interesting information about a high school located in a part of the country in which a small percentage of people are familiar with. This article is informative, fair, interesting, well-written, and useful. JHawk88 (talk • contrib) 04:33, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comments -
The first four references lack a publisher ..its run into the link title, but should be listed separately. Same for current refs 6, 10, 12, 16, 19, 21, 24, 25, 26, 29, 30. All need publishers
What makes http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/texas/brandy-perryman reliable?
Likewise http://macfeesports.com/KSDIVI.htm?
Current refs 24 and 25 (Mark Fox and Hal Patterson) are to wikipedia articles. These are NOT reliable, and need to be replaced.
http://www.nndb.com/people/484/000055319/ is not reliable and needs to be replaced
I'm concerned by the number of sources that are from the school district or from primary sources for the information (the mayors office site, etc). There should be more third-party coverage to counter potential bias.

Otherwise, sources look okay, links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 14:13, 13 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. This article certainly contains more information than many school articles but is not featured article material. Right now, we just have a random collection of facts with no attempt to tie them into a larger narrative. To have a comprehensive article on a school that meets FA requirements, it is really necessary to chart important developments in curriculum, the impact various school administrators have had over the years, any contentious bond issue fights, the growth of various sports programs, etc. I am not sure a single wikipedia school article has ever achieved this, and the only way this would be possible would probably be to dig through local newspaper archives. This site fails to make use of such sources for any year before 2008, which casts doubts on the thoroughness of the research. Topics this local can be difficult to find information on, but the stories can be just as compelling as those at institutions with a more national profile. To reach FA status, there is much work to be done. Indrian (talk) 02:31, 16 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I tend to agree with Indrian, lacks coherence. I'm a brit, I've no idea what the year grades mean, nothing to tell me. School success and failure seem to measured only by progress of basketball team. I don't think this article is ready yet jimfbleak (talk) 06:59, 16 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I checked one ref at random The first unofficial band was organized in 1915. Since then, the Garden City band program has steadily grown into one of the most widely-acclaimed bands in the state. The Garden City Marching Band is often referred to as the "Marching Herd" is entirely unsupported by the next ref, and is also spammy. Given the other failings, changed to oppose jimfbleak (talk) 16:51, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. Includes song lyrics (which are a direct violation of WP:NOT). Citation quality is poor (several citations are to Wikipedia, others to primary sources, and there are fourteen separate cites to the school's own website. There is also a lot of trivia, and two images which may violate the image policy (File:GCHS Band 1925.png doesn't provide proper source or copyright holder details and probably fails NFCC#8, and File:GC Track.jpg is taken from the school's website and marked as PD). Stifle (talk) 11:53, 16 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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